Comments on: Internal Improvement: Kim English

By: Crispus

Crispus — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:42:28 +0000

Oops didn’t read the next comment before I posted.

By: Crispus

Crispus — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:42:01 +0000

Wasn’t Rasheed Wallace somewhat of a stretch 4 later in his career? I remember his 3 got pretty legit. He was much better in the midrange and paint than CV or Daye will ever be, but he made some big men step out.

By: Keith

Keith — Mon, 15 Oct 2012 20:46:31 +0000

If the only constraints are a SG who can hit threes or a PF that can hit threes, then PF is probably more valuable. For one, many/most big men are terrible at defending the 3 point line, so a PF will see easier shots from 3. For two, any player that is just shooting threes, his secondary attributes are less important. You could say the same thing about a 3 point SG who can’t drive or defend (a player many teams keep on their bench).

To be great, certainly the other skills a person has are important. Kevin Love is a superstar because he can hit from any range AND rebounds like crazy. Ryan Anderson is a very good PF because he’s lights out from deep and great on the offensive glass. Sure, you can’t build a team around Anderson, but that’s not what we’re looking for. We just want someone to space the floor for our slashers and post scorers. Without ANY shooters, teams will just put everyone around the paint and stymie any offense we attempt. We need that outlet just to keep defenses honest.

By: vic

vic — Mon, 15 Oct 2012 20:12:38 +0000

what i’m saying is, if you’ve got two guys with the same 3 point shooting percentage. one plays the 2, the other plays the 4.

Its better to have the 2 stretching the floor because the 2 is playing in his natural space, he can get back quickly on defense to play better defense, he probably can’t rebound efficiently among the trees anyway.

If you play the stretch 4, he’s not crashing the boards and shooting 3s at the same time. You have less rebounding, and he’s not quick enough to stop the fastbreak.

By: G

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 20:03:09 +0000

The big difference is Sheed was a stretch-4 by choice, not by limitation. He could play in the low post, defend the low post, and really his best move was that baseline turnaround j, not the pick & pop 3. Daye & Charlie are more limited stretch 4s. Not physical enough to defend or play in the low post, not quick enough to defend the wing, and their games are strictly face up.

By: G

Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:54:42 +0000

…for nothing, he’ll end up being a solid rotation player who becomes a key piece in a blockbuster trade that sends the top center in the country to the Lakers. Kim English, this is your life

By: Corey

Corey — Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:25:25 +0000

The Stretch Four concept will not be significant to this team going forward. Why? By next season at the latest, I expect Monroe to be playing 35 mpg at power forward, with Drummond and Kravtsov taking up Center minutes. Heck, even this year, if Monroe plays 35 mpq, Maxiel plays 22, and Drummond/Kravtsov play 35 minutes between them, that leaves only 4 minutes for a stretch 4. So a 3-pt shooting 4 man may not even get in the rotation significantly this year. The closest we’ll get is Jerebko, if he’s getting his minutes at the 4. He was 38% on corner 3′s last year, so that’s not too bad. And hopefully he’ll improve a little more this year.

But we need the shooting from somewhere. With Stuckey an iffy 3 pt shooter, we really need other perimeter players who can shoot the 3.

By: labatts

labatts — Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:10:45 +0000

Vic, I’m kinda with you on that. I think what works better is someone that can pick and pop (Lambieer).

By: labatts

labatts — Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:08:22 +0000

So what your saying is that Dumars will trade him, right?

By: Patrick Hayes

Patrick Hayes — Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:04:07 +0000

I don’t care what position they play to be honest. The Pistons need more players who can shoot the three, regardless of position. Not having guys who space the floor is really bad for your offense in today’s NBA. The Pistons just happen to have two shooters who are allegedly fours. I don’t think stretch fours are vital by any means, but shooters absolutely are.