Comments on: Another day, another largely positive national look at the Detroit Pistons, who have Andre Drummond to thank for this change in perception http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/10/another-day-another-largely-positive-national-look-at-the-detroit-pistons-who-have-andre-drummond-to-thank-for-this-change-in-perception/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Wed, 22 May 2013 21:03:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: sop http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/10/another-day-another-largely-positive-national-look-at-the-detroit-pistons-who-have-andre-drummond-to-thank-for-this-change-in-perception/comment-page-1/#comment-88915 sop Tue, 23 Oct 2012 22:34:29 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11203#comment-88915 2014? Who @#*% are you talking to? nobody said anything about 2014. 2014? Who @#*% are you talking to? nobody said anything about 2014.

]]> By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/10/another-day-another-largely-positive-national-look-at-the-detroit-pistons-who-have-andre-drummond-to-thank-for-this-change-in-perception/comment-page-1/#comment-88900 tarsier Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:49:09 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11203#comment-88900 He doesn't need to be. You need at least 3 big guys in your PF/C rotation. Besides, he can play spot minutes at SF. But it's true that I wouldn't put him there full-time. Positionally, he is exactly the same as Smith. Obviously he isn't in terms of playing style. He is more like Monroe where Smith is more like Drummond. He doesn’t need to be. You need at least 3 big guys in your PF/C rotation. Besides, he can play spot minutes at SF. But it’s true that I wouldn’t put him there full-time. Positionally, he is exactly the same as Smith. Obviously he isn’t in terms of playing style. He is more like Monroe where Smith is more like Drummond.

]]> By: jonathan http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/10/another-day-another-largely-positive-national-look-at-the-detroit-pistons-who-have-andre-drummond-to-thank-for-this-change-in-perception/comment-page-1/#comment-88820 jonathan Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:50:09 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11203#comment-88820 I "want" Drummond to start too, but with little thought recognize his need to be "hungry for the role" could be flushed away. Believe it or not Drummond starting right away and being fantastic could wreak havoc on his long term career This can be seen with other Dud centers like Kwame or look at that Darko situation - Darko may not have played right away but he got the title and money right away and by the time he tried to get motivated (on another team) it was to far removed to matter. A too young player with everything handed to him means no motivation with improvement and Drummond NEEDS TO IMPROVE to reach that ceiling only a few NBA centers have actually reached in their "careers" Make him want it. Let him earn it. Then he will appreciate it the more so. I “want” Drummond to start too, but with little thought recognize his need to be “hungry for the role” could be flushed away. Believe it or not Drummond starting right away and being fantastic could wreak havoc on his long term career

This can be seen with other Dud centers like Kwame or look at that Darko situation – Darko may not have played right away but he got the title and money right away and by the time he tried to get motivated (on another team) it was to far removed to matter.

A too young player with everything handed to him means no motivation with improvement and Drummond NEEDS TO IMPROVE to reach that ceiling only a few NBA centers have actually reached in their “careers”

Make him want it.
Let him earn it.

Then he will appreciate it the more so.

]]> By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/10/another-day-another-largely-positive-national-look-at-the-detroit-pistons-who-have-andre-drummond-to-thank-for-this-change-in-perception/comment-page-1/#comment-88803 tarsier Tue, 23 Oct 2012 13:55:05 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11203#comment-88803 2014? Really? You do realize that FA class doesn't look nearly as good. And Detroit will have to eat a lot fo cap space on Monroe's re-signing. And there is a minimum salary cap for teams as well. So carrying cap space from year to year is tricky and suboptimal. Finally, such a plan would totally defeat the point of the BG trade. If Detroit just saves cap space for 2014, they essentially threw away a first round pick for zero return. 2014? Really? You do realize that FA class doesn’t look nearly as good. And Detroit will have to eat a lot fo cap space on Monroe’s re-signing. And there is a minimum salary cap for teams as well. So carrying cap space from year to year is tricky and suboptimal. Finally, such a plan would totally defeat the point of the BG trade. If Detroit just saves cap space for 2014, they essentially threw away a first round pick for zero return.

]]> By: Keith http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/10/another-day-another-largely-positive-national-look-at-the-detroit-pistons-who-have-andre-drummond-to-thank-for-this-change-in-perception/comment-page-1/#comment-88754 Keith Tue, 23 Oct 2012 03:58:41 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11203#comment-88754 If we land Smith, we would play him at SF. His penchant for jumpers is the same whether he's at SF or PF. Slide him into PF alongside Monroe for a few minutes as well when Drummond sits. He's quick enough to guard wings, and big enough to abuse them on offense. I can't think of a more ideal Lebron-stopper than an equally large and athletic defender. If we land Smith, we would play him at SF. His penchant for jumpers is the same whether he’s at SF or PF. Slide him into PF alongside Monroe for a few minutes as well when Drummond sits. He’s quick enough to guard wings, and big enough to abuse them on offense. I can’t think of a more ideal Lebron-stopper than an equally large and athletic defender.

]]> By: Keith http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/10/another-day-another-largely-positive-national-look-at-the-detroit-pistons-who-have-andre-drummond-to-thank-for-this-change-in-perception/comment-page-1/#comment-88753 Keith Tue, 23 Oct 2012 03:54:56 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11203#comment-88753 He can't play SF for the season, and I don't like him better than Monroe or Drummond. He can’t play SF for the season, and I don’t like him better than Monroe or Drummond.

]]> By: domnick http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/10/another-day-another-largely-positive-national-look-at-the-detroit-pistons-who-have-andre-drummond-to-thank-for-this-change-in-perception/comment-page-1/#comment-88744 domnick Tue, 23 Oct 2012 01:23:09 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11203#comment-88744 by seeing the free agents below, i will not focus much on Josh Smith... i'd rather target Paul Millsap... i wanna try some trade and steal cp3 :D i mean... give it a shot and this team will go to the conference finals right away! by seeing the free agents below, i will not focus much on Josh Smith… i’d rather target Paul Millsap…

i wanna try some trade and steal cp3 :D i mean… give it a shot and this team will go to the conference finals right away!

]]> By: sop http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/10/another-day-another-largely-positive-national-look-at-the-detroit-pistons-who-have-andre-drummond-to-thank-for-this-change-in-perception/comment-page-1/#comment-88743 sop Tue, 23 Oct 2012 01:17:05 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11203#comment-88743 Curry's too injury prone. When Milsap loses a step in a year or two he will be nearly useless as an undersized big, plus playing him next to Monroe would put ZERO shot-blocking on the court. Curry’s too injury prone. When Milsap loses a step in a year or two he will be nearly useless as an undersized big, plus playing him next to Monroe would put ZERO shot-blocking on the court.

]]> By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/10/another-day-another-largely-positive-national-look-at-the-detroit-pistons-who-have-andre-drummond-to-thank-for-this-change-in-perception/comment-page-1/#comment-88740 tarsier Tue, 23 Oct 2012 00:49:14 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11203#comment-88740 Switch Curry and Ellis. Switch Jrue and Millsap. Then it's about right. Switch Curry and Ellis. Switch Jrue and Millsap. Then it’s about right.

]]> By: sop http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/10/another-day-another-largely-positive-national-look-at-the-detroit-pistons-who-have-andre-drummond-to-thank-for-this-change-in-perception/comment-page-1/#comment-88738 sop Tue, 23 Oct 2012 00:29:55 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11203#comment-88738 Here's the full free agency outlook for 2013 (players ranked by how valuable I see them being to the Pistons and with the % of them leaving current team) 1. Chris Paul  (UFA) (2%)   2. Dwight Howard (UFA) (1%)   3. James Harden (RFA) (8%)   4. Andre Iguodala (ETO) (5%)   5. Josh Smith (UFA) (35%)   6. Al Jefferson (UFA) (45%)   7. Jrue Holiday (RFA) (25%)   8. Monta Ellis (ETO)(10%)   9. Tyreke Evans  (RFA)(25%)   10. Brandon Jennings (RFA)(20%)   11. DeMar DeRozan (RFA)(55%)   12. Stephen Curry (RFA)(15%)   13. OJ Mayo (PO) (5%)   14. Paul Milsap (UFA) (65%)   15. David West (RFA) (30%)   16. Nick Young (UFA) (70%)   17. Kevin Martin (UFA)(85%)   18. J.J. Redick (UFA) (25%)   19. Chauncey Billups (UFA) (10%)   20. Anthony Morrow (UFA) (50%)   21. Kyle Korver (UFA)(65%)   22. J.R. Smith (PO)(20%)   23. Gerald Henderson (RFA) (30%)   24. Marco Belinelli (UFA) (60%)   25. Brando Rush (PO) (5%)   Here’s the full free agency outlook for 2013
(players ranked by how valuable I see them being to the Pistons and with the % of them leaving current team)

1. Chris Paul  (UFA) (2%)
 
2. Dwight Howard (UFA) (1%)
 
3. James Harden (RFA) (8%)
 
4. Andre Iguodala (ETO) (5%)
 
5. Josh Smith (UFA) (35%)
 
6. Al Jefferson (UFA) (45%)
 
7. Jrue Holiday (RFA) (25%)
 
8. Monta Ellis (ETO)(10%)
 
9. Tyreke Evans  (RFA)(25%)
 
10. Brandon Jennings (RFA)(20%)
 
11. DeMar DeRozan (RFA)(55%)
 
12. Stephen Curry (RFA)(15%)
 
13. OJ Mayo (PO) (5%)
 
14. Paul Milsap (UFA) (65%)
 
15. David West (RFA) (30%)
 
16. Nick Young (UFA) (70%)
 
17. Kevin Martin (UFA)(85%)
 
18. J.J. Redick (UFA) (25%)
 
19. Chauncey Billups (UFA) (10%)
 
20. Anthony Morrow (UFA) (50%)
 
21. Kyle Korver (UFA)(65%)
 
22. J.R. Smith (PO)(20%)
 
23. Gerald Henderson (RFA) (30%)
 
24. Marco Belinelli (UFA) (60%)
 
25. Brando Rush (PO) (5%)
 

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