Comments on: Andre Drummond, darkhorse Rookie of the Year candidate http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/10/andre-drummond-darkhorse-rookie-of-the-year-candidate/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Mon, 20 May 2013 02:40:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: gmehl http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/10/andre-drummond-darkhorse-rookie-of-the-year-candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-90149 gmehl Tue, 30 Oct 2012 02:37:59 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11327#comment-90149 It's just Hammer now for crying out loud :-) It’s just Hammer now for crying out loud :-)

]]> By: MNM http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/10/andre-drummond-darkhorse-rookie-of-the-year-candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-90130 MNM Tue, 30 Oct 2012 00:01:18 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11327#comment-90130 "like". “like”.

]]> By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/10/andre-drummond-darkhorse-rookie-of-the-year-candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-90125 tarsier Mon, 29 Oct 2012 22:26:32 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11327#comment-90125 Just to go off of what Patrick said. There was a real debate over who should go first: Howard or Okafor. Now, it was one of those foregone conclusion debates (like Rose/Beasley or Oden/Durant). Nevertheless, if you are going to compare Drummond to Howard then you have to compare Robinson to a lesser version of Okafor. And, before the NCAA season, Drummond was pretty much considered the #2 NBA prospect. But because both those non-basketball questions came up and his production was suspect and inconsistent, Drummond fell. Were it not for those, he certainly would have gone higher than Robinson. And he probably would have gone 2nd overall. Just to go off of what Patrick said. There was a real debate over who should go first: Howard or Okafor. Now, it was one of those foregone conclusion debates (like Rose/Beasley or Oden/Durant). Nevertheless, if you are going to compare Drummond to Howard then you have to compare Robinson to a lesser version of Okafor. And, before the NCAA season, Drummond was pretty much considered the #2 NBA prospect. But because both those non-basketball questions came up and his production was suspect and inconsistent, Drummond fell. Were it not for those, he certainly would have gone higher than Robinson. And he probably would have gone 2nd overall.

]]> By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/10/andre-drummond-darkhorse-rookie-of-the-year-candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-90124 tarsier Mon, 29 Oct 2012 22:15:41 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11327#comment-90124 Unlike Patrick, I cannot claim that I read every comment on this site. Especially not the really long ones with no punctuation, capitalization, or paragraph breaks. Those hurt my head. And Dumars does sometimes get killed on this site. Although not nearly as much since Laser stopped commenting. However, he is not often attacked for his draft record (although often for failing to keep/develop his late draft steals). Darko is just one of the most popular jokes of the NBA (along with Kwame). But I dare you to find me within the last month multiple comments that talk about Cleaves or White. If you can't, don't say they are constantly brought up. Unless by constantly you mean once every few months. Unlike Patrick, I cannot claim that I read every comment on this site. Especially not the really long ones with no punctuation, capitalization, or paragraph breaks. Those hurt my head. And Dumars does sometimes get killed on this site. Although not nearly as much since Laser stopped commenting. However, he is not often attacked for his draft record (although often for failing to keep/develop his late draft steals). Darko is just one of the most popular jokes of the NBA (along with Kwame). But I dare you to find me within the last month multiple comments that talk about Cleaves or White. If you can’t, don’t say they are constantly brought up. Unless by constantly you mean once every few months.

]]> By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/10/andre-drummond-darkhorse-rookie-of-the-year-candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-90123 tarsier Mon, 29 Oct 2012 22:06:08 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11327#comment-90123 True but the causation is in the other direction. Higher ticket sales will never cause an increase in team performance. True but the causation is in the other direction. Higher ticket sales will never cause an increase in team performance.

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/10/andre-drummond-darkhorse-rookie-of-the-year-candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-90117 Patrick Hayes Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:30:26 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11327#comment-90117 <p>"But he started off the same way Drummond did with all of the same type of questions" He absolutely did not. If he had the same questions Drummond did, he wouldn't have been the No. 1 pick. Drummond's questions were about conditioning, work ethic and how badly he actually wanted to be a great player. Howard had none of those non-basketball questions pre-draft.</p> “But he started off the same way Drummond did with all of the same type of questions”

He absolutely did not. If he had the same questions Drummond did, he wouldn’t have been the No. 1 pick. Drummond’s questions were about conditioning, work ethic and how badly he actually wanted to be a great player. Howard had none of those non-basketball questions pre-draft.

]]> By: Ray http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/10/andre-drummond-darkhorse-rookie-of-the-year-candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-90114 Ray Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:09:16 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11327#comment-90114 Can't wait for the edit option Can’t wait for the edit option

]]> By: sebastian http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/10/andre-drummond-darkhorse-rookie-of-the-year-candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-90110 sebastian Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:41:23 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11327#comment-90110 Yo tarsier, I don't care about Gores' bottom line, either, but winning games is directly linked to ticket sales. When OUR Pistons were in the top 5 in attendance, WE were also going to ECF every year. There is a correlation, my man. Yo tarsier, I don’t care about Gores’ bottom line, either, but winning games is directly linked to ticket sales.
When OUR Pistons were in the top 5 in attendance, WE were also going to ECF every year.
There is a correlation, my man.

]]> By: Ray http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/10/andre-drummond-darkhorse-rookie-of-the-year-candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-90105 Ray Mon, 29 Oct 2012 19:57:41 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11327#comment-90105 "Maybe not. But Drummond may not have all of the skills some of those players have or had when drafted, either. He doesn’t have the motor Nene came into the league with or the defensive ability Oden had, for example. He doesn’t have the offensive ability Griffin came into the league with" Oden we have no clue, because of injuries...not worth getting into...Nene very skilled, but was also developed to be that way....Griffin is a 6'9 athletic PF different skill set all bad examples when comparing to a 6'11 270 19 year old.... "Howard is once in a generation because of what he achieved as a NBA player. That’s why I reject any comparisons between Drummond and Dwight. Right now, Drummond is an intriguing athlete and prospect. Dwight is one of the best defensive players of all time and one of the three or four best players in the league right now. Comparing the two is insulting to Howard." But he started off the same way Drummond did with all of the same type of questions and Howard relied on instinct and freakish athleticism just like Drummond did for the first 3-4 years of his NBA career...Drummond has just started to develop his basketball skills as a big man... Offensively Drummond is more advanced and more comfortable.... Defensively he dominated in HS and then was still a force in college if not for anthony davis he would have been the most talked about defensive player in college...drummond is on the same level Dwight was at 19! Not saying Drummond at 19 is like Dwight is not at 27 years old so its not an insult... “Maybe not. But Drummond may not have all of the skills some of those players have or had when drafted, either. He doesn’t have the motor Nene came into the league with or the defensive ability Oden had, for example. He doesn’t have the offensive ability Griffin came into the league with”

Oden we have no clue, because of injuries…not worth getting into…Nene very skilled, but was also developed to be that way….Griffin is a 6’9 athletic PF different skill set all bad examples when comparing to a 6’11 270 19 year old….

“Howard is once in a generation because of what he achieved as a NBA player. That’s why I reject any comparisons between Drummond and Dwight. Right now, Drummond is an intriguing athlete and prospect. Dwight is one of the best defensive players of all time and one of the three or four best players in the league right now. Comparing the two is insulting to Howard.”

But he started off the same way Drummond did with all of the same type of questions and Howard relied on instinct and freakish athleticism just like Drummond did for the first 3-4 years of his NBA career…Drummond has just started to develop his basketball skills as a big man… Offensively Drummond is more advanced and more comfortable…. Defensively he dominated in HS and then was still a force in college if not for anthony davis he would have been the most talked about defensive player in college…drummond is on the same level Dwight was at 19! Not saying Drummond at 19 is like Dwight is not at 27 years old so its not an insult…

]]> By: Pratik http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/10/andre-drummond-darkhorse-rookie-of-the-year-candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-90098 Pratik Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:48:16 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11327#comment-90098 Love what Dan wrote for the free press a few days ago just saw it: http://www.freep.com/article/20121026/SPORTS03/121026032/detroit-pistons-lawrence-frank-pistonpowered?odyssey=obinsite Couldn't agree more. Love what Dan wrote for the free press a few days ago just saw it: http://www.freep.com/article/20121026/SPORTS03/121026032/detroit-pistons-lawrence-frank-pistonpowered?odyssey=obinsite

Couldn’t agree more.

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