Comments on: Poor offseason grades keep rolling in for Pistons

By: Max

Max — Thu, 06 Sep 2012 21:42:23 +0000

And btw: more players showed up out of shape last season than any season in history in all probability because of the lockout. To that point, Brown didn’t sign with the Warriors until December of last year so even if he didn’t work out all summer, he wasn’t any different than most of the free agents who didn’t want to get hurt during the lockout. Therefore, your entire scenario is off because you repeatedly framed things as if Brown signed a contract in bad faith and then didn’t work out all summer when in fact, he wasn’t signed to any contract over the summer and got hurt very shortly after signing one.

By: Max

Max — Thu, 06 Sep 2012 21:37:45 +0000

But how do you know he didn’t work out all summer? As far as a I can tell, Brown has always been one of the most jacked players in the league with bulging muscles all over.

By: G

Wed, 05 Sep 2012 12:32:06 +0000

Dude gets a big contract, doesn’t work out all off season, shows up overweight & out of shape, and tears his pectoral muscle in the first month of the season? If that wasn’t the reason he got injured, it certainly was a major contributing factor.
Ok, I’m done arguing about a mediocre player who’s played on 6 different teams. Interestingly, there’s another Kwame Brown in this world. A D.C. council chairman, who plead guilty to bank fraud and campaign finance violations. 11 years after taking him #1 overall, Kwame still haunts Washington.

By: Max

Max — Wed, 05 Sep 2012 03:47:32 +0000

According to you anyway…………

By: G

Mon, 03 Sep 2012 04:32:29 +0000

He showed up out of shape because he wasn’t interested in earning his contract, which is how he got injured

By: MrHappyMushroom

MrHappyMushroom — Sat, 01 Sep 2012 23:51:51 +0000

Although zero years for Tay would have been the optimal terms.

By: Crispus

Crispus — Sat, 01 Sep 2012 14:50:37 +0000

Do you guys want to do a fantasy basketball league?

By: Max

Max — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 20:53:01 +0000

See you are still underrating Brown who has probably started in like half of his games and throughout his career. A 3rd string center is a guy who doesn’t average any more than five minutes. Brown has probably averaged twenty or more for his career and year in and year out. He was drafted a long time ago and Mark Jackson was starting to start him over Biedrins last year when he got hurt. Also, I don’t think he hurt himself as badly as he did last year because he didn’t want to try to earn his contract.

By: Max

Max — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 20:37:50 +0000

You are right but Rodman is arguably the best rebounder of all time and his numbers dipped in Chicago because he was getting old.

By: Max

Max — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 20:30:43 +0000

I agree with most of what you say but here my ultimate issue. Even the current Howard would be hard pressed to lead the league in rebounding if he played next to Monroe no matter what the rest of the team looked like. I have a fairly good grasp of the history of the league and can’t really think of an instance in the modern era of a player averaging 14 rebound or more on a team that featured another player who was thought of as a 10 rebound guy whether he averaged 8 that season or not. Lopez never approached being a 10 rebound guy anyway. To put it another way, if you told me that Kevin Love or Dwight Howard were going to lead the league in rebounding the following season and that one of them was going to play with Greg Monroe and the other was not and that all three players were not going to get injured, I would place all of my bets on the one who didn’t play with Greg Monroe and so would anyone else.
Your statement about personal moves is basically right on but the problem comes at the extremes of players leading the league in a given stat. If Chris Paul and LeBron James were on the same team, their assists would almost definitely both go down unless Paul’s went up and James’ role changed so much that his went way down. The issue at hand is that stats can only be accumulated on a team basis at so high a threshold and that when two players who are capable of dominating that stat are on the same team, they can’t both be so dominant and more often than not, they are both less dominant. If Chamberlain and Russell played together at their apex, they could not have averaged 50 rebounds between them because there just weren’t that many rebounds a game, even in the 60s, for two players who were always on the floor with three other teammates to grab.