Comments on: Kim English keeping promise to Joe Dumars about Andre Drummond http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/08/kim-english-keeping-promise-to-joe-dumars-about-andre-drummond/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Thu, 23 May 2013 20:01:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: ray http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/08/kim-english-keeping-promise-to-joe-dumars-about-andre-drummond/comment-page-1/#comment-81751 ray Sat, 11 Aug 2012 08:02:09 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/08/kim-english-keeping-promise-to-joe-dumars-about-andre-drummond/#comment-81751 Now if English could convince Ben to retire for sure, and cause Prince to seriously roll his ankle and be out fot at least one full month...he'd be team mvp without a doubt Now if English could convince Ben to retire for sure, and cause Prince to seriously roll his ankle and be out fot at least one full month…he’d be team mvp without a doubt

]]> By: Keith http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/08/kim-english-keeping-promise-to-joe-dumars-about-andre-drummond/comment-page-1/#comment-81694 Keith Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:01:17 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/08/kim-english-keeping-promise-to-joe-dumars-about-andre-drummond/#comment-81694 I think we could move Tay if we really wanted to. Sacramento will be forced in the future to keep it's payroll higher than they would like (new CBA salary floor), and the don't have any good character or defensive players. Even as a backup, Tay is better than any SF on the roster besides Evan (who really isn't a SF himself).   I do think it would be in the team's best interest to get a veteran PG adept at passing to keep offensive flow and teach Knight. Calderon actually seems like an ideal candidate. He annually has a huge assist rate and miniscule TO rate. A poor defender, but a smart player who Knight could learn form.   As for Daye v Tay, I don't think it matters. Daye doesn't strike me as a starting caliber player (ever), but Tay doesn't provide all that much that Maggette or Jerebko couldn't. I'd rather draft a SF next year and not rely on either of them in the future. I think we could move Tay if we really wanted to. Sacramento will be forced in the future to keep it’s payroll higher than they would like (new CBA salary floor), and the don’t have any good character or defensive players. Even as a backup, Tay is better than any SF on the roster besides Evan (who really isn’t a SF himself).
 
I do think it would be in the team’s best interest to get a veteran PG adept at passing to keep offensive flow and teach Knight. Calderon actually seems like an ideal candidate. He annually has a huge assist rate and miniscule TO rate. A poor defender, but a smart player who Knight could learn form.
 
As for Daye v Tay, I don’t think it matters. Daye doesn’t strike me as a starting caliber player (ever), but Tay doesn’t provide all that much that Maggette or Jerebko couldn’t. I’d rather draft a SF next year and not rely on either of them in the future.

]]> By: Vic http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/08/kim-english-keeping-promise-to-joe-dumars-about-andre-drummond/comment-page-1/#comment-81629 Vic Fri, 10 Aug 2012 00:20:39 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/08/kim-english-keeping-promise-to-joe-dumars-about-andre-drummond/#comment-81629 True, I 2nd that emotion... Ben was the action leader by example, billups the vocal leader. The rest were talented, but support roles. With GMonroe and Stuck leading by example, and Knight & Kim leading vocally this team will finally have strong leadership on the floor again. True, I 2nd that emotion…
Ben was the action leader by example, billups the vocal leader. The rest were talented, but support roles. With GMonroe and Stuck leading by example, and Knight & Kim leading vocally this team will finally have strong leadership on the floor again.

]]> By: Trent http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/08/kim-english-keeping-promise-to-joe-dumars-about-andre-drummond/comment-page-1/#comment-81623 Trent Thu, 09 Aug 2012 23:00:27 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/08/kim-english-keeping-promise-to-joe-dumars-about-andre-drummond/#comment-81623 #mancrush Agree with the previous statement on Tay. With our logjam at SF could we move him? Would anyone actually take on that horrible contract? To me we need to add depth at the point. What options are available at PG? Calderon has been tossed around but I think Knight will have enough TO's for two PG's so another turnover prone PG doesn't excite me. Realistically we only need a 7-10min/game guy as we can rotate stuck through there as well. Would you rather keep Tay or Daye? Veteran + big contract VS talented youngen + small contract? #mancrush

Agree with the previous statement on Tay. With our logjam at SF could we move him? Would anyone actually take on that horrible contract? To me we need to add depth at the point. What options are available at PG? Calderon has been tossed around but I think Knight will have enough TO’s for two PG’s so another turnover prone PG doesn’t excite me. Realistically we only need a 7-10min/game guy as we can rotate stuck through there as well.

Would you rather keep Tay or Daye? Veteran + big contract VS talented youngen + small contract?

]]> By: Quin http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/08/kim-english-keeping-promise-to-joe-dumars-about-andre-drummond/comment-page-1/#comment-81604 Quin Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:31:03 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/08/kim-english-keeping-promise-to-joe-dumars-about-andre-drummond/#comment-81604 I love this post.  I like giving credit to Ben and Chauncey for creating a winning culture.  Tayshaun seems to be the last player with somewhat of a poor attitude, shielded by his veteran status.  We could probably benefit from moving him.  The other players are in a position to find a way to win through creativity, teamwork and effort (like Ben and Chauncey did). I love this post.  I like giving credit to Ben and Chauncey for creating a winning culture.  Tayshaun seems to be the last player with somewhat of a poor attitude, shielded by his veteran status.  We could probably benefit from moving him.  The other players are in a position to find a way to win through creativity, teamwork and effort (like Ben and Chauncey did).

]]> By: JT's Hoops Blog http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/08/kim-english-keeping-promise-to-joe-dumars-about-andre-drummond/comment-page-1/#comment-81592 JT's Hoops Blog Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:43:25 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/08/kim-english-keeping-promise-to-joe-dumars-about-andre-drummond/#comment-81592 He certainly deserves at least a chance to start for the team.  With a professional attitude like that, he will go very far in this league. He certainly deserves at least a chance to start for the team.  With a professional attitude like that, he will go very far in this league.

]]> By: Keith http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/08/kim-english-keeping-promise-to-joe-dumars-about-andre-drummond/comment-page-1/#comment-81585 Keith Thu, 09 Aug 2012 15:14:33 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/08/kim-english-keeping-promise-to-joe-dumars-about-andre-drummond/#comment-81585 This is exactly what the team has been missing for years. We won a championship and went to back to back Finals because Big Ben forced accountability on everyone. We stayed elite for years after with Chauncey leading the team with class and professionalism. We basically fell apart trying to rely on Sheed (hothead), AI (has he ever cared about accountability?), and Rip (petulant) to be the voice of the locker room. Maybe English isn't ready to take over as a team leader right away, but the culture does finally seem to be changing and every little bit helps. We shipped out distractions (Rip) and underachievers (Gordon). We have lucked out in the draft, but as much in character (Monroe-Knight) as talent (remember when Joe was trying to move up for Cousins?). Monroe has already talked about taking Drummond under his wing and teaching. English now is creating an atmosphere of accountability and camaraderie. There is still a long way to go back to respectability on the court, but at least it looks like we are giving ourselves the chance off the court once again. This is exactly what the team has been missing for years. We won a championship and went to back to back Finals because Big Ben forced accountability on everyone. We stayed elite for years after with Chauncey leading the team with class and professionalism. We basically fell apart trying to rely on Sheed (hothead), AI (has he ever cared about accountability?), and Rip (petulant) to be the voice of the locker room.
Maybe English isn’t ready to take over as a team leader right away, but the culture does finally seem to be changing and every little bit helps. We shipped out distractions (Rip) and underachievers (Gordon). We have lucked out in the draft, but as much in character (Monroe-Knight) as talent (remember when Joe was trying to move up for Cousins?). Monroe has already talked about taking Drummond under his wing and teaching. English now is creating an atmosphere of accountability and camaraderie.
There is still a long way to go back to respectability on the court, but at least it looks like we are giving ourselves the chance off the court once again.

]]> By: Scott Free http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/08/kim-english-keeping-promise-to-joe-dumars-about-andre-drummond/comment-page-1/#comment-81578 Scott Free Thu, 09 Aug 2012 13:50:37 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/08/kim-english-keeping-promise-to-joe-dumars-about-andre-drummond/#comment-81578 Wow, I wish I was half as professional as this guy.   Fart. Wow, I wish I was half as professional as this guy.   Fart.

]]> By: Derek http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/08/kim-english-keeping-promise-to-joe-dumars-about-andre-drummond/comment-page-1/#comment-81572 Derek Thu, 09 Aug 2012 10:54:41 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/08/kim-english-keeping-promise-to-joe-dumars-about-andre-drummond/#comment-81572 Yet another reason to like Kim English!  Work ethic!  Leadership skills!  Humility! Toughness!  Bad Boy Era Fan/Historian!  Deadeye Shooter!  Fellow Baltimorean! Yet another reason to like Kim English!  Work ethic!  Leadership skills!  Humility! Toughness!  Bad Boy Era Fan/Historian!  Deadeye Shooter!  Fellow Baltimorean!

]]> By: ryan http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/08/kim-english-keeping-promise-to-joe-dumars-about-andre-drummond/comment-page-1/#comment-81560 ryan Thu, 09 Aug 2012 06:58:53 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/08/kim-english-keeping-promise-to-joe-dumars-about-andre-drummond/#comment-81560 I wish I had Kim English looking out for me and I'm 36 years old. I wish I had Kim English looking out for me and I’m 36 years old.

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