Comments on: Pistons sign Andre Drummond

By: Patrick Hayes

Patrick Hayes — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 14:26:12 +0000

The upside for him would be maybe another team is willing to sign him and have him on their roster immediately.

He could go to Europe for the Pistons this year and come back with no guarantee they sign him next year. Remember, the Pistons have sent second round picks overseas fairly often. Alex Acker ended up eventually being signed, but Deron Washington was cut in camp when he came back and Trent Plaisted and Ricky Paulding were never signed. There were allegedly other teams interested in Middleton in the draft, which is reportedly why the Pistons felt they had to reach for him with the first of their two second round picks. If that was truly the case, I have to think Middleton would have other NBA opportunities this year. His market might not be the same if he goes to Europe and falls off the radar a bit for a season.

By: Patrick Hayes

Patrick Hayes — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 14:21:10 +0000

You would be correct — players signed after the new CBA are not eligible to be amnestied. Also, you can’t amnesty players you trade for either, so even if Prince’s contract were eligible for the amnesty, in the trade scenario you mention above, Toronto would still not be able to amnesty him.

By: Victor

Victor — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:42:13 +0000

I have a doubt. Just curiosity. If the Raptors insanely accepted this trade, could they amnesty Prince in case they didn’t like his production. I think they couldn’t cause his extension occured after new CBA, but my father thinks they can.

By: tarsier

tarsier — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 10:23:23 +0000

Daye is not worth amnestying. Not a big enough contract.

By: tarsier

tarsier — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 10:21:22 +0000

I’m confident that Gores and Dumars understand the concept of a sunk cost. It may feel worse to pay a guy to not be there. But it’s not too different from paying a guy to be there but not contribute much of anything. Now I don’t know if Middleton or whoever could contribute more than CV (because he is obviously the prospective amnesty target). But if another player could, the distasteful feeling of paying a guy to go away is not a good argument to keep him around.

By: Tom Y.

Tom Y. — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 06:36:14 +0000

If Daye continues to play like this, maybe they could actually bite. Interestingly, Holinger’s stats have us losing that deal. I guess he hasn’t found a way to calculate the impact of Isolayshaun yet.

By: Tom Y.

Tom Y. — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 06:31:08 +0000

You’re paying him anyway. If you’re not using him or have prospects to trade him, the only extra cost is whatever you’re paying to his replacement.

By: George

George — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 05:39:31 +0000

Fack, this posted in the wrong spot. Reply@Pat.

By: George

George — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 05:38:58 +0000

I was just talking about signing/making space for Middleton vs. doing the same for English. One plays more comfortably at a position of need and if he does indeed perform better in summer league and at training camp then he should absolutely be next in line to make the roster, despite Middleton being drafted a few spots ahead, whether we have 13 or 15 men already on the roster.
I would amnesty Villanueva or trade Daye for peanuts regardless of the quantity or quality of second round picks we had just selected. Gores might not see things my way, but I’d set an example to the rest of the team that inconsistent performance, effort, and attitude would not be tolerated on this team.

By: Travis

Travis — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 04:17:54 +0000

Is this a reasonable expectation?

My prediction for Andre Drummond(1st season):

Minutes per game: 22.7
PPG: 7.2
RPG: 5.8
APG: 1.9
BPG: 1.7
SPG: 0.5

Not a great first season, but he is only 18.