Comments on: Pistons and playoffs? The pluses and minuses to that scenario playing out http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/07/pistons-and-playoffs-the-pluses-and-minuses-to-that-scenario-playing-out/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Wed, 22 May 2013 22:32:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/07/pistons-and-playoffs-the-pluses-and-minuses-to-that-scenario-playing-out/comment-page-1/#comment-80839 Patrick Hayes Wed, 01 Aug 2012 17:38:31 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=10690#comment-80839 <p>Ali: Where in the article did I suggest the team should tank or purposely lose? That was not the point at all. The point is, the team needs more assets to continue improving. One of the ways they get assets is by picking in the first round of the draft. But if they make the playoffs this season, they lose that asset. Where did I write that they should definitely try not to make the playoffs? Or even that I'm rooting for them not to make the playoffs? I was simply making the point that if they do indeed make the playoffs, they will also lose out on one potential avenue to add another good player next season. How is that not a relevant point?</p> Ali:

Where in the article did I suggest the team should tank or purposely lose? That was not the point at all.

The point is, the team needs more assets to continue improving. One of the ways they get assets is by picking in the first round of the draft. But if they make the playoffs this season, they lose that asset.

Where did I write that they should definitely try not to make the playoffs? Or even that I’m rooting for them not to make the playoffs? I was simply making the point that if they do indeed make the playoffs, they will also lose out on one potential avenue to add another good player next season. How is that not a relevant point?

]]> By: Ali http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/07/pistons-and-playoffs-the-pluses-and-minuses-to-that-scenario-playing-out/comment-page-1/#comment-80836 Ali Wed, 01 Aug 2012 17:30:06 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=10690#comment-80836 You play to win. You play to make the playoffs. If anyone on this team read this article, they would probably never come to this website ever again. You play to win. You play to make the playoffs. If anyone on this team read this article, they would probably never come to this website ever again.

]]> By: Eric http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/07/pistons-and-playoffs-the-pluses-and-minuses-to-that-scenario-playing-out/comment-page-1/#comment-80232 Eric Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:25:37 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=10690#comment-80232 1) Who are locks to make the playoffs next year? Celtics, Nets, Bulls, Pacers, Miami.  I didn't include Magic as the status of Dwight is up in the air. 2) Are the Pistons in the top three of the remaining teams. 76ers, Knicks, Raptors, Cavaliers, Bucks, Hawks, Bobcats, Magic, and Wizards,   3)  Wizards, Bucks, Raptors, Bobcats, Cavaliers will not make the playoffs. 4) That leaves the 76ers, Knicks, Hawks, Magic, and Pistons. 1) Who are locks to make the playoffs next year?

Celtics, Nets, Bulls, Pacers, Miami.  I didn’t include Magic as the status of Dwight is up in the air.

2) Are the Pistons in the top three of the remaining teams.

76ers, Knicks, Raptors, Cavaliers, Bucks, Hawks, Bobcats, Magic, and Wizards,  

3)  Wizards, Bucks, Raptors, Bobcats, Cavaliers will not make the playoffs.

4) That leaves the 76ers, Knicks, Hawks, Magic, and Pistons.

]]> By: Eric http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/07/pistons-and-playoffs-the-pluses-and-minuses-to-that-scenario-playing-out/comment-page-1/#comment-80229 Eric Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:14:06 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=10690#comment-80229 I believe the Pistons would benefit more from making the playoffs.  The team has enough young talent to build around, but not any veterans in their prime who can make a difference.  The Pistons need this year n to show their talent and get other free agents to notice this team and think they can win a title here in the future because a free agent would have to think they can win or Pistons are going to need to overypay to get them to come here.  Amnesty Villanueva next year as he doesn't have a role. Get at least one free agent in his prime - Harden, Josh Smith, or Dwight Howard (almost impossible, but the way it has been going for him, maybe he will start to look at other places than the Lakers or the Nets).    I would rather have a proven veteran in his prime than low end lottery pick, that is my two sense anyway. I believe the Pistons would benefit more from making the playoffs.  The team has enough young talent to build around, but not any veterans in their prime who can make a difference.  The Pistons need this year n to show their talent and get other free agents to notice this team and think they can win a title here in the future because a free agent would have to think they can win or Pistons are going to need to overypay to get them to come here.  Amnesty Villanueva next year as he doesn’t have a role.

Get at least one free agent in his prime – Harden, Josh Smith, or Dwight Howard (almost impossible, but the way it has been going for him, maybe he will start to look at other places than the Lakers or the Nets).   

I would rather have a proven veteran in his prime than low end lottery pick, that is my two sense anyway.

]]> By: Jim D. http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/07/pistons-and-playoffs-the-pluses-and-minuses-to-that-scenario-playing-out/comment-page-1/#comment-80081 Jim D. Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:15:17 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=10690#comment-80081 If they miss the playoffs, it also increases the risk factor. Yes, we get a pick (10-14) this year, but what happens if Monroe blows out his knee and misses 2013-2014? As murphy's law would state, we finish with the #4 pick and have to cough that up to Charlotte. To me, its best to get it out of the way and insure you are giving up the worst pick possible. If they miss the playoffs, it also increases the risk factor. Yes, we get a pick (10-14) this year, but what happens if Monroe blows out his knee and misses 2013-2014? As murphy’s law would state, we finish with the #4 pick and have to cough that up to Charlotte. To me, its best to get it out of the way and insure you are giving up the worst pick possible.

]]> By: Corey http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/07/pistons-and-playoffs-the-pluses-and-minuses-to-that-scenario-playing-out/comment-page-1/#comment-80074 Corey Sat, 28 Jul 2012 19:54:59 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=10690#comment-80074 Virtually every player offered big money on a contract extension to his rookie contract takes it. Locking in $50million+ is irresistible the first time. It's after that contract is up they leave. And if the pistons haven't made the playoffs by Monroe's 7th year or so, he should leave. But I think they're on their way back out of the lottery. One more time, tops. Virtually every player offered big money on a contract extension to his rookie contract takes it. Locking in $50million+ is irresistible the first time. It’s after that contract is up they leave. And if the pistons haven’t made the playoffs by Monroe’s 7th year or so, he should leave. But I think they’re on their way back out of the lottery. One more time, tops.

]]> By: andrew http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/07/pistons-and-playoffs-the-pluses-and-minuses-to-that-scenario-playing-out/comment-page-1/#comment-80036 andrew Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:20:48 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=10690#comment-80036 i think you all forget one thing.... when was the last max contract that joe gave out? will greg monroe stay with the pistons if they aren't even making the playoffs  and joe doesn't dish out the money? maybe one of the two.but i think it will take both. he might feel that not making the playoffs is why he didn't make the usa select team. we need to keep monoe happy and the only way to do that is win. i think you all forget one thing…. when was the last max contract that joe gave out? will greg monroe stay with the pistons if they aren’t even making the playoffs  and joe doesn’t dish out the money? maybe one of the two.but i think it will take both. he might feel that not making the playoffs is why he didn’t make the usa select team. we need to keep monoe happy and the only way to do that is win.

]]> By: Chris N http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/07/pistons-and-playoffs-the-pluses-and-minuses-to-that-scenario-playing-out/comment-page-1/#comment-79978 Chris N Sat, 28 Jul 2012 11:33:24 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=10690#comment-79978 Its probably a bit early to start assigning playoff positions.  Chicago might be in a fight for a spot for most of the season as it waits for Derrick Rose to return and tries to sort out what's going on in its backcourt.  Atlanta is going to be...different.  Who will man the 2 spot for them?  is Jordan Crawford ready to burn as a starter full-time?  I don't see either of them as "locks" to make the post season.  That doesn't necessitate that the Pistons will make it in, but I do think this season offers a much better opportunity than last years for them to push their way in. Its probably a bit early to start assigning playoff positions.  Chicago might be in a fight for a spot for most of the season as it waits for Derrick Rose to return and tries to sort out what’s going on in its backcourt.  Atlanta is going to be…different.  Who will man the 2 spot for them?  is Jordan Crawford ready to burn as a starter full-time?  I don’t see either of them as “locks” to make the post season.  That doesn’t necessitate that the Pistons will make it in, but I do think this season offers a much better opportunity than last years for them to push their way in.

]]> By: Corey http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/07/pistons-and-playoffs-the-pluses-and-minuses-to-that-scenario-playing-out/comment-page-1/#comment-79919 Corey Sat, 28 Jul 2012 02:00:47 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=10690#comment-79919 Playoffs! If they make the playoffs, it will be because the young players: Stuckey, Monroe, Knight, and maybe Drummond were good enough to take them there. With Knight in his 2nd year and Drummond his first. That would bode VERY well for the team's future. Playoffs! If they make the playoffs, it will be because the young players: Stuckey, Monroe, Knight, and maybe Drummond were good enough to take them there. With Knight in his 2nd year and Drummond his first. That would bode VERY well for the team’s future.

]]> By: DoctorDaveT http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/07/pistons-and-playoffs-the-pluses-and-minuses-to-that-scenario-playing-out/comment-page-1/#comment-79918 DoctorDaveT Sat, 28 Jul 2012 01:58:23 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=10690#comment-79918 Travis, Desolation, & DG -- You guys are "playing my song." I believe the 'Stones are definitely on the way up. The way that #1 draft pick to charlotte goes, JoeD believes it, too. But they can't afford to be bad two years in a row. They get one more year to be bad - if they are bad - and then, they lose the pick (unless they're terrible - and they ain't going to be terrible in two years). This team is building like the early 80's team was building - with youth. So play them. If they lose (one more year), great: one more good pick. If they don't lose, great! (but they lose the pick - which if they start building faster, they won't need.) Travis, Desolation, & DG –
You guys are “playing my song.” I believe the ‘Stones are definitely on the way up. The way that #1 draft pick to charlotte goes, JoeD believes it, too.
But they can’t afford to be bad two years in a row. They get one more year to be bad – if they are bad – and then, they lose the pick (unless they’re terrible – and they ain’t going to be terrible in two years).
This team is building like the early 80′s team was building – with youth. So play them. If they lose (one more year), great: one more good pick. If they don’t lose, great! (but they lose the pick – which if they start building faster, they won’t need.)

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