Raptors targeting guard with No. 8 pick, which helps the Pistons
Marc Stein and Chad Ford of ESPN:
But if the Raptors decide, in the end, not to make a draft-night deal and keep the pick, they’re expected to focus on the top guards that could be available at No. 8. Sources say that Toronto is intrigued by Syracuse’s Dion Waiters, UConn’s Jeremy Lamb and Weber State’s Damian Lillard.
I’m a big believer in the tier system for the NBA draft. Group players, regardless of position, who appear to have similar values into tiers. Then, draft only from within the highest remaining tier by choosing the player who fits best.
But for the Pistons, what if the top tier at the time of their No. 9 pick includes only a guard(s)?
Strict adherence to the system dictates taking a guard, and I would. So, I’m really hoping the top player available is not a guard, and therefore, I’m rooting for the teams ahead of Detroit to draft guards, pushing big men to No. 9.
Bradley Beal is a safe bet to be gone, but any other guards taken 1-8 are a bonus. If the Raptors draft Waiters, Lamb or Lillard, that would be fantastic for the Pistons.
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Jun 11, 2012 • 1:20 pm
by Tiko
who do u think will be available if the Raptors go that route?
Jun 11, 2012 • 2:32 pm
by john
here’s what i think we should do:
Amnesty Charlie V.
Trade up to no 3(stuckey and #9 for Beal) or trade for the no 10 pick and OkaforDraft Henson and ZellerPg-KnightSg-Stuckey/Beal
Sf-Prince
Pf-Monroe
C- Zeller
6-Henson
7-Jerebko
8-Okafor
9-Singler
10- Bynum
Jun 11, 2012 • 2:34 pm
by john
Also trade BG for a pick maybe?
Jun 11, 2012 • 6:57 pm
by tarsier
Cuz teams are just lining up to take on a washed up player on a terrible contract and throw in their own draft picks to make it happen.
Jun 11, 2012 • 2:42 pm
by john
I actually think Golden St. will trade their pick since they have a starting five of:
Pg-Curry
SG-Thompson
SF-Jefferson
Pf- Lee
C- Bogut
Jun 11, 2012 • 3:04 pm
by Pete
I see http://www.nbadraft.net/ has the Pistons drafting Lamb..which would be ahead scratch er unless they were trading the pick for a big and extra draft choices…
Jun 11, 2012 • 3:37 pm
by john
Did you see my posts? and… this is also reliable http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2012/
Jun 12, 2012 • 5:36 am
by tarsier
PJ3 going 17 is reliable?
Jun 11, 2012 • 3:52 pm
by john
Here’s the revised version of my first comment:
Amnesty Charlie V.
Trade BG for #s 14 and 16 and Parsons
Trade Parsons and both 2nd rounders for Okafor and the no 10 pick
Trade Stuckey and no 9 for the no 3pick
Draft Beal and Zeller, Henson, and Austin Rivers (trade to celtics or keep)
Pg- Knight
Sg- Beal
Sf-prince
Pf- Monroe
C- Zeller
6-Henson
7- jerebko
8- Okafor
9- singler
10- Rivers
Jun 11, 2012 • 6:59 pm
by tarsier
Just wow. How stupid do you think Houston is? Not like the Hornets would take that either, but it looks less lopsided after the terrible BG deal. Stuckey and 9 for 3 is the only fair deal here.
Jun 11, 2012 • 3:54 pm
by john
Mini Celtics there! All we need is Shabazz Muhammad at sf now!
Jun 11, 2012 • 4:03 pm
by sop
Henson’s measurements at the Chicago Combine were not good signals despite his great standing reach at 9’3.5″ because he weighed in at only 216 and had added noticeable weight from the season as the ESPN commentators mentioned.
Jun 11, 2012 • 4:12 pm
by john
The kid wants to stay in shape. He can’t just put on 50 lbs over night. the kid has 2.9 blocks per game and has a 7-5 wingspan!
Jun 11, 2012 • 4:20 pm
by john
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCJrx7CA0Ss Here’s Henson
Jun 11, 2012 • 4:25 pm
by john
compare to Chris Bosh?? Look at that long 2!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmVnX3ABoVo
Jun 11, 2012 • 4:26 pm
by Fennis
I like Henson — a lot. Keep in mind, Chris Bosh was 210 pounds coming out of Georgia Tech.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Chris-Bosh-1740/stats/
He’s now at 235. Henson will gain enough weight in the next three years to contend with standard NBA power forwards.
Drummond
Sullinger
Henson
(A small part of me wants Henson over Sullinger…)
Jun 11, 2012 • 4:35 pm
by Fennis
Btw –
Anyone but Zeller. If you reason that Ty Hansboro has a similar skill set to Zeller and has maxed out as a valuable bench player on a playoff team, I think it’s safe to conclude that Zeller has about the same ceiling — especially considering that Psycho T was a much better college player than Zeller. I know Zeller’s bigger, but those alligator arms make him Psycho T with a longer torso.
Jun 11, 2012 • 4:38 pm
by john
I was comparing the Jump shot almost at the three point line to one of Bosh’s
The comparrison of Zeller to Hansborough is irrelevant since, Zeller stepped in his place after he left.
First video was Henson, second was Zeller.
Jun 11, 2012 • 4:50 pm
by john
i’d love to get Drummond and Beal
Jun 11, 2012 • 7:03 pm
by tarsier
Who wouldn’t? But it would cost Monroe to make that happen.
Jun 12, 2012 • 9:12 am
by Daye and Knight
For Beal yes…but Drummond has a chance at falling to us. The draft could go a number of ways, including this:
1. Davis
2.MKG
3. Beal
4. Barnes
5. Robinson
6. Lillard
7. PJ III
8. Waiters
9. Drummond
Portland has a need for a PG just as much as they need a center so talkin Lillard is very possible since he’s a better prospect. Plus Portland could end up with Zeller with their 11th pick. Golden State has Bogut and the Raptors need a wing. Only team that could take him to me would be the Kings but Robinson is better than Drummond as well. We could definitely end up with Drummond.
Jun 11, 2012 • 5:20 pm
by Fennis
Irrelevant because Zeller stepped in Hansborough’s place? How about adding some logic to that statement?
Jun 11, 2012 • 5:41 pm
by john
That seems unfair comparing Hansborough to Zeller since Zeller was his replacement. Hansborough is 6-9 and Zeller is 7-0. Also, Zeller got more blocks in his senior season than Hansborough did.
Jun 12, 2012 • 10:30 am
by Sanjiv
Short of Beal, if they draft a Guard w/o dropping one in the process, I’m done with Joe D.
Jun 12, 2012 • 10:30 am
by Sanjiv
Short of Beal, if they draft a Guard w/o dropping one in the process, I’m done with Joe D. And for all the comments on tiering, there are two tiers: A.Davis, and everyone else.
Jun 12, 2012 • 7:00 pm
by Reaction
Actually 3 tiers:
Tier 1: Anthony Davis
Tier 2: Beal, Robinson, Barnes, MKG, Drummond
Tier 3: Everyone ELSE
Jun 12, 2012 • 11:40 pm
by Mark
These trade scenarios are insane. What has BG done the last 3 years to warrant a team trading a lotto pick for him? What about the 2 yrs 25 mil left on his deal? Instead of doing all these small trades why dont we just go for the homerun? Maybe we trade BG, Stuckey and the 9 for Okafor and the rights to Anthony Davis? We could even throw in Austin Daye as a sweetener. Ridiculous.
I have an idea. How about we wait for Ben Gordon’s contract to expire in 2 yrs and hope he can provide a spark off the bench in the meantime (since we dont really have a choice)? We could amnesty Villanueva since he doesn’t care about basketball to free up minutes for Singler/Daye. We could hold workouts for the bigs that could be available (Henson, Sullinger, Drummond, Moultrie, Leonard, PJones, Zeller) and choose the best one. Personally, I’d like to see Leonard in a Pistons jersey next year. We could let our young core develop.
This seems like a much more realistic scenario and I dont see that as necessarily a bad thing.