Comments on: Poll: Which player belongs No. 1 on the Pistons’ draft board? http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/06/poll-which-player-belongs-no-1-on-the-pistons-draft-board/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Wed, 22 May 2013 13:27:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: HardyHar http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/06/poll-which-player-belongs-no-1-on-the-pistons-draft-board/comment-page-1/#comment-73382 HardyHar Thu, 21 Jun 2012 22:52:17 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/06/poll-which-player-belongs-no-1-on-the-pistons-draft-board/#comment-73382 I would possibly say lwhite dudes may have ower ATHLETIC ceilings. IQ ceilings are a whole other thing altogether. I mean Nash wasn't expected to be a multiple NBA MVP. Or how about Kevin Love... Most white dudes that make the league are really intelligent and know how to play a role, something the Pistons could use. Laimbeer was one of the least gifted in the agility department but he still wreaked havoc on teams every night. Besides, Monroe (the Pistons new cornerstone) is one of the least athletic dudes in the league. Being explosive is one tiny part of the game IMO. I would possibly say lwhite dudes may have ower ATHLETIC ceilings. IQ ceilings are a whole other thing altogether. I mean Nash wasn’t expected to be a multiple NBA MVP. Or how about Kevin Love… Most white dudes that make the league are really intelligent and know how to play a role, something the Pistons could use. Laimbeer was one of the least gifted in the agility department but he still wreaked havoc on teams every night.

Besides, Monroe (the Pistons new cornerstone) is one of the least athletic dudes in the league. Being explosive is one tiny part of the game IMO.

]]> By: HardyHar http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/06/poll-which-player-belongs-no-1-on-the-pistons-draft-board/comment-page-1/#comment-73379 HardyHar Thu, 21 Jun 2012 22:46:03 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/06/poll-which-player-belongs-no-1-on-the-pistons-draft-board/#comment-73379 Henson injured his ankle just before the combine. That's why his numbers were low. I'm pretty sure he has a 35-36" vert, not a 30" as tested. Henson injured his ankle just before the combine. That’s why his numbers were low. I’m pretty sure he has a 35-36″ vert, not a 30″ as tested.

]]> By: rick http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/06/poll-which-player-belongs-no-1-on-the-pistons-draft-board/comment-page-1/#comment-73089 rick Tue, 19 Jun 2012 15:46:05 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/06/poll-which-player-belongs-no-1-on-the-pistons-draft-board/#comment-73089 How can you have a good game against someone who did not play because of injury? Sorry, but this kid did not play against Mbakwe. Maybe Ralph Samson's kid, but not Mbakwe. Joe is not about to mortgage his future on the hope that Leonard will be good. By the time that happens, Joe could be without a job. How can you have a good game against someone who did not play because of injury? Sorry, but this kid did not play against Mbakwe. Maybe Ralph Samson’s kid, but not Mbakwe. Joe is not about to mortgage his future on the hope that Leonard will be good. By the time that happens, Joe could be without a job.

]]> By: CNA5 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/06/poll-which-player-belongs-no-1-on-the-pistons-draft-board/comment-page-1/#comment-73088 CNA5 Tue, 19 Jun 2012 15:28:02 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/06/poll-which-player-belongs-no-1-on-the-pistons-draft-board/#comment-73088 To be fair, Mark, neither Leonard nor Drummond was in the best situation to evolve their games.  Let's be honest here- both programs were a bit of a mess.  Both programs also tend to neglect post play as an important part of their offense. The biggest reason Drummond is viewed as the better talent is really upside.  He has an above average NBA body for the center position and teams think they can teach him the rest easier than Leonard bulking up or having that timing necessary to block and challenge shots. - Drummond has a larger frame and wingspan than Leonard.  Drummond's NBA weight will likely be 270-285.  Many view Leonard playing closer to 250.  That means you're picking between having one of the larger centers in the game versus one that's middle of the pack. - Drummond is a shot blocker.  Leonard can block shots.  There's a difference.  Drummond (along with a surprising number of players in this draft- like Henson and Davis).  With rules being swung so far in favor of perimeter attackers, it's advantageous to have a presence to block and/or alter shots at the rim.  Leonard might be average in this regard on the next level.  Drummond has the potential to be great at it. I think Drummond's raw size packaged with his athleticism is what has teams salivating.  But, we'll see during the draft.  *shrugs* To be fair, Mark, neither Leonard nor Drummond was in the best situation to evolve their games.  Let’s be honest here- both programs were a bit of a mess.  Both programs also tend to neglect post play as an important part of their offense.
The biggest reason Drummond is viewed as the better talent is really upside.  He has an above average NBA body for the center position and teams think they can teach him the rest easier than Leonard bulking up or having that timing necessary to block and challenge shots.
- Drummond has a larger frame and wingspan than Leonard.  Drummond’s NBA weight will likely be 270-285.  Many view Leonard playing closer to 250.  That means you’re picking between having one of the larger centers in the game versus one that’s middle of the pack.
- Drummond is a shot blocker.  Leonard can block shots.  There’s a difference.  Drummond (along with a surprising number of players in this draft- like Henson and Davis).  With rules being swung so far in favor of perimeter attackers, it’s advantageous to have a presence to block and/or alter shots at the rim.  Leonard might be average in this regard on the next level.  Drummond has the potential to be great at it.
I think Drummond’s raw size packaged with his athleticism is what has teams salivating.  But, we’ll see during the draft.  *shrugs*

]]> By: Need4Sheed http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/06/poll-which-player-belongs-no-1-on-the-pistons-draft-board/comment-page-1/#comment-73039 Need4Sheed Tue, 19 Jun 2012 04:12:57 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/06/poll-which-player-belongs-no-1-on-the-pistons-draft-board/#comment-73039 Would you guys take Henson over Zeller/Leonard? Thats a tough call. I don't get good vibes from Henson. I think sticking with what u said gurprem, id stay away from seller. But Henson or Leonard is a tossup Would you guys take Henson over Zeller/Leonard? Thats a tough call. I don’t get good vibes from Henson. I think sticking with what u said gurprem, id stay away from seller. But Henson or Leonard is a tossup

]]> By: PalacePrince http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/06/poll-which-player-belongs-no-1-on-the-pistons-draft-board/comment-page-1/#comment-73038 PalacePrince Tue, 19 Jun 2012 04:09:35 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/06/poll-which-player-belongs-no-1-on-the-pistons-draft-board/#comment-73038 Good point. That being said, id take moultrie over leonard all day. Good point. That being said, id take moultrie over leonard all day.

]]> By: Gurprem http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/06/poll-which-player-belongs-no-1-on-the-pistons-draft-board/comment-page-1/#comment-73036 Gurprem Tue, 19 Jun 2012 04:07:33 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/06/poll-which-player-belongs-no-1-on-the-pistons-draft-board/#comment-73036 Lets be honest, white players have a lower ceiling than black players. The most that Leonard and Zeller can be are Tyler Hansborough types. Hustle players off of the bench. Lets be honest, white players have a lower ceiling than black players. The most that Leonard and Zeller can be are Tyler Hansborough types. Hustle players off of the bench.

]]> By: Mark http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/06/poll-which-player-belongs-no-1-on-the-pistons-draft-board/comment-page-1/#comment-73029 Mark Tue, 19 Jun 2012 03:28:49 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/06/poll-which-player-belongs-no-1-on-the-pistons-draft-board/#comment-73029 How does Drummond get the "probably a better in the nba than college" label while Leonard has the BB IQ of a frog?  If you want to talk about Drummond not being a good fit in UConn then you should talk about how the Illini guards chucked all year long and mention what a joke the Illini program was last year.  I wasn't trying to give the impression that Leonard was a polished NBA prospect by any means compared to Drummond.  I'd love Det to take Drummond if he falls to them.  My point was that these guys are both projects with huge upside and its my opinion that they arnt that much different from each other physically, statisically, both have similar question marks.  I just dont understand why Drummond is more hyped and a surefire early lotto pick.  Thats all I am saying. How does Drummond get the “probably a better in the nba than college” label while Leonard has the BB IQ of a frog?  If you want to talk about Drummond not being a good fit in UConn then you should talk about how the Illini guards chucked all year long and mention what a joke the Illini program was last year.  I wasn’t trying to give the impression that Leonard was a polished NBA prospect by any means compared to Drummond.  I’d love Det to take Drummond if he falls to them.  My point was that these guys are both projects with huge upside and its my opinion that they arnt that much different from each other physically, statisically, both have similar question marks.  I just dont understand why Drummond is more hyped and a surefire early lotto pick.  Thats all I am saying.

]]> By: Dano http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/06/poll-which-player-belongs-no-1-on-the-pistons-draft-board/comment-page-1/#comment-73022 Dano Tue, 19 Jun 2012 02:36:02 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/06/poll-which-player-belongs-no-1-on-the-pistons-draft-board/#comment-73022 Leonard has the basketball IQ of a frog. Drummond shocked a lot of people with his poor showing at UCONN, and I think the general sentiment is he might not have been a "college player," or necessarily a good fit for that program. Leonard has the basketball IQ of a frog.

Drummond shocked a lot of people with his poor showing at UCONN, and I think the general sentiment is he might not have been a “college player,” or necessarily a good fit for that program.

]]> By: Dano http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/06/poll-which-player-belongs-no-1-on-the-pistons-draft-board/comment-page-1/#comment-73021 Dano Tue, 19 Jun 2012 02:32:37 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/06/poll-which-player-belongs-no-1-on-the-pistons-draft-board/#comment-73021 I kind of think Anthony Davis has a high chance of being one of the biggest draft let downs in recent memory (although not a bust). I kind of think Anthony Davis has a high chance of being one of the biggest draft let downs in recent memory (although not a bust).

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