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Brandon Knight adds eight pounds

Vince Ellis of the Detroit Free Press:

@BKnightNBA has added eight pounds since end of regular season. Stuckey and Knight are really putting in work.

I’m just going to assume that’s good weight. I’m not sure Brandon Knight needs to bulk up any more than a typical guard his age does, but a little extra muscle should help his defense and finishing at the rim. Last season, Knight wasn’t really a defensive difference maker and most of his offense came from outside shooting.

19 Comments

  • Jun 20, 20122:07 pm
    by Gurman

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    If a kid like knight can put on 8 pounds, I’m sure a kid like henson, who’s a big man can put on 15

    • Jun 20, 20124:02 pm
      by Marvin Jones

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      If you assume that then why hasn’t Daye gained a significant amount of weight in 3 years? I think Henson is like Daye, he won’t be able to put on and keep on weight, he’s 21 now so I don’t see anymore “natural” weight gains coming.

      • Jun 20, 20125:03 pm
        by CNA5

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        Most think Henson’s frame tops out around 230.  You can have strength even if you lack bulk.  If Henson can play at 230 (which, by the way, is the weight that Marcus Camby and Rasheed Wallace played at for the bulk of their careers) with enough strength to defend in the post, he’ll be fine.
        I wouldn’t automatically label Henson as Daye part II.  Henson’s already gained 24 lbs in 3 years (he was 196 leaving Round Rock for UNC, and most reports list him at 220).  Also, Henson WANTS to get bigger to play in the post.  I never got the impression from Daye that he felt that was where he wanted to do his damage.
        This will be a tough pick at #9.  There are a lot of players with talent, but each one has some question marks coming into the draft.
        If Chad Ford is right about a workout Monday with Jared Sullinger, Tyler Zeller, Meyers Leonard, John Henson, Terrence Jones and Perry Jones, then the Pistons should learn a lot about whether John Henson can add enough strength to compliment Monroe.  Likewise, it will also show whether or not Sullinger can reliably get his shot off against long and athletic players like Leonard, Henson, and Jones III.

      • Jun 21, 20123:11 am
        by oats

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        One other thing, Henson was supposedly 183 when he got to UNC. In 3 years, he added 33 pounds. That already makes him quite a bit different from Daye in that he’s already shown an ability to add weight. Henson was one of those late growth spurt guys. I guess he might have topped out his weight gain potential already, but I kind of doubt it. I also don’t think his weight is all that concerning anyways. Marcus Camby entered the league at the same age, but weighing 7 pounds more than Henson. Camby also played center. The NBA has more small PFs or teams that just go without a typical PF for longer stretches than when Camby first entered the league. Is 7 pounds really supposed to prevent Henson from guarding smaller players than the guys Camby defended so effectively for so long?

      • Jun 22, 20129:21 pm
        by Drew

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        Austin Daye could have put on the weight if he did not lose it when playing in Russia. The only reason I believe Austin Daye has not put on weight is because he spends most of his free time trying to hit shots from beyond the arc instead of packing in a high protein diet.  honestly i question Austin Daye’s commitment to getting stronger and bigger.
        Henson neeeds to put on muscle because the dude is flat out disappointingly weak.  I mean 185 bench press is the max for a 6’10 young professional athlete?   That is alarming and he was one of the bottom 5 in the combine when it came to physical strength with weights.  All I am saying is that if Henson expects to have a presence in D he needs to have the muscle to tough it against other big men in the league.
        Maybe Henson could guard tough players like Prince.  But, what prince lacked in size he made up with in offense.  Henson is offensively undeveloped and raw.  so this is another drawback.

  • Jun 20, 20122:44 pm
    by Faris

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    This is great and theres like 4 months left of the offseason too.

  • Jun 20, 20123:24 pm
    by Bugsygod

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    Assume its good weight?  He’s in Detroit working w/ Arnie Kander one of the best trainers in the NBA.  I would “assume” Arnie knows what he is doing…..LOL!

  • Jun 20, 20124:08 pm
    by Daye and Knight

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    Knight and Stuckey are really putting in work to get better this offseason…I’m excited! Add their upcoming success with Monroe and we really have a bright future! Only one exception: we need a solid draft (duh) to challenge for a playoff spot. Joe can’t mess this up, I feel we’re closer to being a playoff contender now especially since A) Boston is getting old and Ray/Kevin are free agents B) Orlando might have to trade Howard since it seems he still wants out C) Lou Willams will be a free agent…add that to Hawes possibily leaving and Brand getting older, they might not be a playoff team as soon as next season D) (this year only) Rose will be out due to his ACL. Bulls will be good still but they clearly need Rose. My point? I just named 4 teams that were a playoff team this season who could possibily not make it into the postseason next year. We have a shot to challenge for one of those final 4 spots if we have a good draft. We need someone who has a higher ceiling than over half of the mediocre players we’re projected to get. Henson needs to add weight which is possible. That’s the only problem I see with him. If Drummond fell to us, we would definitely be a playoff team sooner than later!

    • Jun 20, 20127:21 pm
      by tarsier

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      If you’re looking for a playoff berth sooner rather than later, you should prefer Henson to Drummond. I would much rather Drummond not because he would contribute much to the Pistons hitting the playoffs in the next two years but because his potential beyond then is great.

      • Jun 20, 20127:42 pm
        by CNA5

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        I agree with that.  Drummond is probably the one guy other than Davis with the potential to be a franchise center.
         
        As a side question.  Let’s say the draft throws us for a loop and Drummond lands in Detroit’s lap at #9.  Do you think Frank would play him through the obvious mistakes that he’ll make (like poor shot selection, bad FT shooting, and picking up too many bad fouls)?
         
         

        • Jun 20, 20127:53 pm
          by Daye and Knight

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          If Maxiell is gone and Ben really does retire, unless we acquire a big through free agency, Frank won’t have much of a choice between playing Drummond or Macklin…which is bad cause that’ll give us more of a reason to keep Charlie V around. Jerebko can play the 4 but IMO he’s more of a 3

      • Jun 20, 20127:49 pm
        by Daye and Knight

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        Exactly. Both would be a work in progress with Henson needing to bulk up and Drummond needing to realize his potential. I think Drummond would let us become a playoff team for the long run and that’s what I’m really aiming for ultimately. I say with Drummond we’ll be a playoff team “sooner than later” because it’s not a complete lock we make it this year even though I think we could; but with Drummond on board in a year or 2 we’ll definitely be in the mix for sure. A Monroe/Drummond duo would give us on of the best 1-2 punches down low in the league…potentially top 3-5 which would be a complete 180 from where we probably rank now. With all of that said, assuming Drummond is gone before us, Monday will determine who we take at 9 because Zeller, Leonard, Henson, PJ III, Jones and Sullinger will be in to work out and unless teams before us surprise the league by reaching for any of the players just listed, all of them should be there and we’ll take best available for a position we need.

  • Jun 20, 201211:16 pm
    by Jay

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    My guess is that the results of the workout likely won’t determine who the Pistons draft, at least not from a who’s the best at the work out standpoint. Zeller is probably going to “win” the workout because of his size, experience, and polish.

    I think that everyone but Henson will have trouble guarding PJIII because he is a perimeter player and none of them are quick enough to stay with him.

    The length of Henson, Leonard, PJIII, and Zeller will just confirm that Sullinger not only cant score over length, but that he’s not worth a 1st Rd pick with his injury issues.

    I think the key things the Pistons will be looking at is how much Henson gets pushed around by the other players. If he can’t handle the size and strength of the other guys at the workout, he likely cant handle NBA 4′s.

    At the same time they will be looking to see just how athletic Zeller is, particularly on defense, if he can show he’s able to protect the rim and alter shots he could drastically improve his chances of being chosen. 

    I think the biggest thing the Pistons will be watching is how Meyers Leonard fares. I think that if he shows that he’s every bit as good defensively as Henson, shows offensive potential, and convinces the coaches that the concerns about his maturity are overrated I think he could secure the Pistons choice at #9. I think Monroe is ideally suited for the 4 spot at the NBA level and providing him with a running mate who is the biggest guy in the draft, was good for 13pts, 8rbs, and 2blks a game in the 2nd best conference in the country last year (and pretty much Handled Sullinger in 2 meetings) and hasn’t even scratched the surface of his potential is the way the Pistons should go. At worst I think Leonard winds up as a Robin Lopez or Jokim Noah who provides defense and energy. At best I think he could be an Andrew Bynum type stud.

  • Jun 22, 20126:28 am
    by Derek

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    Brandon Knight: The reports coming out of this off season on him indicate he has been putting 3 to 4 hour workout sessions.  Additionally, BK is working out with Arnie so I believe it is safe to assume the 8 lbs is good weight.  I think he needed the additional muscle.  When BK would go to the rack this season he would often get knocked down or thrown completely out of bounds.  He needs to be able to absorb the contact instead of being blown up by it.
    With the number 9 pick Detroit selects…: I’ve been doing some reading up on Henson and I really like this kid.  He is intense.  He seems to like the physicality of the game and he thrives on the man plays (blocks, rebounds with contact, dunks with contact, and other hustle plays).  He shoots the ball pretty well, even though he has an odd way of holding and releasing the ball.  The fact that he has put on 33 lbs in three years at UNC gives me hope and pushes him way out of the Daye category.  This kid has some fire in his gut, I have not seen that with Daye.
    If we got Drummond would he play: No.  Frank has been really clear about earning minutes.  If Drummond was on the roster and he was out there confused about the rotations and showing that he is incapable of giving plus minutes…he would ride the pine.
    Who do I want us to get?: Henson with the 9th pick, O’Quinn or Machado with the 33rd pick, and Henry Sims with the 44th pick

  • Jun 23, 20128:05 pm
    by Simon

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    If we drafted Henson we’d have the NBA All-nice guy front line. We need some fire next to Monroe’s ice. I think Moultrie is the answer. Henson doesn’t have the fire that Camby or KG had, similarly skinny bigs.

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