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Joe Dumars in Spain courting Kyle Singler

Wendell Maxey of Ridiculous Upside:

Well, it’s not exactly a done deal at this point that Singler will join the Pistons next season. Right now, Dumars and Detroit’s front office is still trying to reach an agreement with Singler to play summer league.

That’s a start — a chance to sell Singler on officially making the NBA jump.

Here’s the reality: the 23-year-old is getting a chance to see the world and play basketball and a high level and doesn’t appear in a rush to leave a pretty great set-up any time soon. A season playing in the ACB and Euroleague certainly hasn’t hurt Singler at all. Still, it’s been said Dumars expects Singler to be part of Detroit’s summer-league roster when the Orlando Summer League takes place from July 9-13, along with Brandon Knight, Austin Daye and Vernon Macklin for starters.

According to Maxey, Singler didn’t play all that well in front of Dumars, although he’s having a solid season overall in Spain. I don’t know if Singler is any kind of answer for them at small forward, but the Pistons used an early second round pick on him, so like Singler’s decision to put off the NBA and play in Spain or not, it’s in Detroit’s best interests to get him here and see if he can be a NBA contributor or not.

17 Comments

  • May 4, 201210:01 am
    by labatts

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    Perhaps Dumars can woo him if he promises to use the Amnesty clause on Prince.

    • May 4, 201210:43 am
      by Jeremy

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      Can’t use it on Prince. The amnesty clause is only for players who had contracts signed prior to the new CBA being signed into effect and Prince’s deal came afterwards.

      • May 4, 201210:53 am
        by labatts

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        It was just a bad joke.

  • May 4, 201210:39 am
    by sebastian

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    Joe should trade the draft rights to Kyle Singler to Toronto for Solomon Alabi and use OUR 1st round draft pick on a “real” SF, either PJIII or Royce White.
    Tay should become the 6th man.

    • May 4, 201210:45 am
      by Patrick Hayes

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      Can’t trade his rights for Alabi. Alabi is a free agent.

    • May 4, 201210:48 am
      by Patrick Hayes

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      Also, Alabi is beyond awful.

      • May 4, 201211:56 am
        by sebastian

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        Patrick, I’ve read that you are “in the know,” when it comes to Michigan state basketball. What can you tell us about Doug Anderson (Detroit Titans)? He would be a great addition to the roster, as a back-up shooting guard.
        It would have been great, if this guy would had elected to come out early, so that WE can have him on OUR team.

        • May 4, 201212:16 pm
          by Patrick Hayes

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          I covered Doug for two years when I was working for the Flint Journal and he was playing for Mott C.C. I’m not exaggerating when I say this: Doug would be one of the three or four most athletic players in the NBA. Not hyperbole at all. He’s a freak.

          Unfortunately, he has nowhere near the skill level to be a NBA player. In high school, he was a 6-5 center who just dunked. In junior college, he added the ability to occasionally hit an open perimeter jumper, but he still pretty much operates like a center. Runs the floor, finishes, guards big men, etc. From what I watched of him at UD this season, he still seemed like that type of player. If he has a NBA future (and like I said, athletically, he’s ELITE), his ball-handling, shooting and ability to defend on the perimeter without fouling all need to make a quantum leap forward this season. He’s a professional player somewhere, but not in the NBA, at least initially. He needs some time for his skills to catch up with his physical gifts.

  • May 4, 201210:48 am
    by Lisa

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    I know this sounds stupid but I never understood how a team can draft a player but they can just not show up. The team has use a draft pick on this player where they could of drafted someone else. Like with Ricky Rubio.

    • May 4, 201210:56 am
      by labatts

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      When stuff like that happens, it shows that the team that drafted them did not really know what they were doing (although it seems to have worked out in the long run for Minnesota.  Actually we don’t even know that it worked out well for them since they could have drafted someone else who developed on the team).

  • May 4, 201210:54 am
    by Daye and Knight

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    I agree that Tay should be a 6th man, his glory days are done and he ball hogs too much and thinks he’s the go to guy on the team…talk about delusional! He would be great as a 6th man on a championship contending team and really shouldn’t be viewed as a starter any longer…if Ben Wallace can accept a bench role and Ben was better than Prince will EVER be then Tay should just roll with coming off the bench. The only thing stopping him from doing that is we don’t have a better option than him right now, but hopefully that changes through the draft or free agency. I still want a big man in the draft for our first round pick but our second round pick should be used for a wing player and maybe another guard. In free agency I wouldn’t mind taking a chance on Beasly if we don’t end up with Royce falling into our laps the second round..which now there’s almost no chance he does. Just last year, Beasly was averaging 19 ppg we could use more offense cause we were bottom ten in that category last year. Our line up could look like Knight, Stuckey, Beasly, Henson and Monroe that sounds like a pretty good line up to me.

    Now as far as Singler…tell him to kick rocks and trade his ass to the Bobcats. I much rather have Crowder at this point than Singler any day of the week and twice on Sunday’s. Plus we have J.J who can play SF too so IMO we really don’t need Singler

    • May 4, 201211:21 am
      by Patrick Hayes

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      “I much rather have Crowder at this point than Singler any day of the week and twice on Sunday’s.”

      But they don’t have Crowder and there’s no guarantee they’ll get him. They do have Singler. He has little or no trade value (seriously, who is going to give up much for a 2nd round pick who has never played a NBA game?). If he can play, he can help the Pistons or potentially interest another team. If he can’t play, at least they know and can move on.

      • May 4, 201212:18 pm
        by Daye and Knight

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        By me saying I much rather have crowder, I mean that both Singler and Crowder are (or will be) 2nd round forwards in back to back drafts. Singler is going to cost more than Crowder and if we can get Crowder in the second round I rather invest in him and let Singler walk. Crowder IMO seems to have more upside and will be a cheaper option. Just off talent alone Crowder looks like a better player. Singler from what I know as of now, doesn’t really impress me and since he played overseas he will drive a bit of a hard bargain…makes no sense to pay him like a first rounder if we can get another wing in the second round

        • May 4, 201212:29 pm
          by Patrick Hayes

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          If they draft Crowder, I have no problem with them doing whatever with Singler. I’m just saying they have to prepare for all scenarios. If they come out of the draft with no SF and if the frontcourt remains thin next year (and it could even with a high draft  pick if Wallace retires and Maxiell opts out and leaves), then Jerebko is still going to be playing PF minutes. Daye is a mess and Prince is old, so Detroit has to do what it can for now to try and get Singler in the fold until a better option presents itself.

          • May 4, 201212:41 pm
            by Daye and Knight

            Fair enough. I think it would be foolish to pay Singler like a first round player right now and should offer him what we would have gave him last season. If he balks then continue negotiations later after the draft and after any free agent option on our radar signs elsewhere. If we come out the draft with no SF and can’t find one in FA then I would be ok with continuing negotiations with Singler. I’m not a big fan of his, but even now I have to believe he’s a better option than Daye and Wilkins.

  • May 4, 201211:40 am
    by Corey

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    The Singler situation was created by the lockout. It’s not like he is a Euro who through his name into the NBA draft on a lark. He went to Europe because he couldn’t play here. We’ll see if he comes back, now that he knows he has the Europe option.

  • May 4, 201212:18 pm
    by frankie d

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    this is going to be another joe d fiasco.
    singler may be a good player, he may not be a good player.  but it’s pretty clear that he isn’t dumb.
    he sees the train wreck still happening in detroit.  why would he want to get on board when he has other options?
    if he comes to detroit, what can he reasonably see as his fate?
    tay is entrenched at SF and dumars is obviously never going to move him or downgrade his role on the team until they have to roll the gurney out on the court to take him off.
    behind tay, there’s JJ, who should be getting PT at the position.  and then there’s daye.
    not to mention a guy who inexplicably has firmly established himself in the team’s rotation, wilkins.
    the coach loves him – obviously, as he plays him when there were many other options available – and the GM has already told the player he wants him back.
    and then there is the 3 guard offense, with stuckey moving to SF, that the team plays every once in a while.
    why on earth would singler plop himself down in the middle of that mess?
    where is the opportunity for a second round pick to come in and play?
    he told joe d to take a hike last year, when things were just as sketchy, why would he turn around and do anything differently now?
    especially on a team that has historically not given young players a priority.
    my guess is that singler will let joe d know that he has no interest in detroit and that he’d appreciate a trade to another team.  and joe d will do his best to accomodate him.
    and he’ll simply be another wasted draft choice.

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