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	<title>Comments on: Pistons edge Raptors, cripple chance to improve lottery odds</title>
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		<title>By: starlight0997</title>
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		<dc:creator>starlight0997</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 22:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not too sure about agreeing with Jonas, even if we are talking about the eighth seed in the East. This is probably the best Eastern Conference we&#039;ve had in years (at least more than a decade, Ill check). Only two teams have the possibility of &quot;dropping&quot; out: Orlando and Boston. Orlando only if Dwight Howard leaves. Boston if the Big Three (and Rondo) disperse. So that takes care of who &quot;drops,&quot; the other side is, of course, the Pistons improving. Although I (or should I say &quot;we all&quot;) see the Pistons improving, how much will it take to get (back) to playoff contention?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not too sure about agreeing with Jonas, even if we are talking about the eighth seed in the East. This is probably the best Eastern Conference we&#8217;ve had in years (at least more than a decade, Ill check). Only two teams have the possibility of &#8220;dropping&#8221; out: Orlando and Boston. Orlando only if Dwight Howard leaves. Boston if the Big Three (and Rondo) disperse. So that takes care of who &#8220;drops,&#8221; the other side is, of course, the Pistons improving. Although I (or should I say &#8220;we all&#8221;) see the Pistons improving, how much will it take to get (back) to playoff contention?</p>
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		<title>By: tarsier</title>
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		<dc:creator>tarsier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 21:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except that it totally misses what people&#039;s gripe with tanking is. Rational fans don&#039;t get upset that teams do their best to contend at some point withing the rules of the system, even if that means tanking. We hate that the system rewards tanking.

It&#039;s almost an exact parallel to flopping. I totally understand why players do it and if they didn&#039;t, we could rightfully question their will to win. But I hate that the system rewards flopping.

In both cases, my problem is entirely with the system. Fix the incentives, and the behaviors will correct themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except that it totally misses what people&#8217;s gripe with tanking is. Rational fans don&#8217;t get upset that teams do their best to contend at some point withing the rules of the system, even if that means tanking. We hate that the system rewards tanking.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost an exact parallel to flopping. I totally understand why players do it and if they didn&#8217;t, we could rightfully question their will to win. But I hate that the system rewards flopping.</p>
<p>In both cases, my problem is entirely with the system. Fix the incentives, and the behaviors will correct themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 19:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-tanking-isnt-all-bad&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-tanking-isnt-all-bad&lt;/a&gt; right on point</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-tanking-isnt-all-bad" rel="nofollow">http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-tanking-isnt-all-bad</a> right on point</p>
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		<title>By: MNM</title>
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		<dc:creator>MNM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, it&#039;s ok.. Many of the people around here want that 6-7 to 6-9 undersized power forward Jarred Sullinger, who is PERFECT for a team that has an unathletic powerforward who already has problems defensively..Jesus...frankie d, your one of the only ones who gets it.. It&#039;s kinda comforting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it&#8217;s ok.. Many of the people around here want that 6-7 to 6-9 undersized power forward Jarred Sullinger, who is PERFECT for a team that has an unathletic powerforward who already has problems defensively..Jesus&#8230;frankie d, your one of the only ones who gets it.. It&#8217;s kinda comforting.</p>
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		<title>By: vic</title>
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		<dc:creator>vic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Macklin doesn&#039;t get more PT next year I&#039;ll be mad. He&#039;s done very well while out there.

I&#039;d love to see the Pistons trade for Al Jefferson or Ekpe Udoh. More Ekpe Udoh.
 
We&#039;ll get a good draft pick, I&#039;m not worried about a couple of positions. 
If we don&#039;t get Davis or Drummond, then either:
 
Henson/JaeCrowder/Machado
Sullinger/KyleOquinn/Machado
PJIII/Kyle Oquinn/Machado 

That way we get a shot blocker, a forward, and a pass first pg.
We&#039;ll be well on our way back to the playoffs, even next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Macklin doesn&#8217;t get more PT next year I&#8217;ll be mad. He&#8217;s done very well while out there.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to see the Pistons trade for Al Jefferson or Ekpe Udoh. More Ekpe Udoh.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll get a good draft pick, I&#8217;m not worried about a couple of positions.<br />
If we don&#8217;t get Davis or Drummond, then either:</p>
<p>Henson/JaeCrowder/Machado<br />
Sullinger/KyleOquinn/Machado<br />
PJIII/Kyle Oquinn/Machado </p>
<p>That way we get a shot blocker, a forward, and a pass first pg.<br />
We&#8217;ll be well on our way back to the playoffs, even next year.</p>
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		<title>By: tarsier</title>
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		<dc:creator>tarsier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>on the plus side, it doesn&#039;t matter what they think. whether they hope for the pistons to win or lose has no bearing on whether they actually do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on the plus side, it doesn&#8217;t matter what they think. whether they hope for the pistons to win or lose has no bearing on whether they actually do.</p>
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		<title>By: tarsier</title>
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		<dc:creator>tarsier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every coach is in possession of &quot;secret practice info.&quot; Although, it&#039;s not so much a closely guarded secret as it is just not out because it&#039;s not very interesting.

Kinda like how most people I know don&#039;t know my middle name. Not because I am worried people will find it out so I keep it a secret, but because I have no reason to tell them. Nobody cares.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every coach is in possession of &#8220;secret practice info.&#8221; Although, it&#8217;s not so much a closely guarded secret as it is just not out because it&#8217;s not very interesting.</p>
<p>Kinda like how most people I know don&#8217;t know my middle name. Not because I am worried people will find it out so I keep it a secret, but because I have no reason to tell them. Nobody cares.</p>
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		<title>By: MrBlockedShot</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrBlockedShot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 08:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Utah has a lot of bigs, including their last pick, Kanter, who had limited PT this season. He still has a long way to go. But they have some interesting players the Pistons could take a look to as Favors and Al Jefferson. I like how Favors have deleveloped this year, after a weak first year in the league. But, depending on which pick we finally get, it might be too expensive for us taking that trade. I&#039;d rather have Bynum traded for a second round pick and Tyler Zeller selected with our first rounder. Get an athletic PF/C (I belive we can find one suitable for us in the second round) and Zeller plus keeping Jerebko makes more sense to me.  Should Dumars decide to go for Sullinger I would make the trade you&#039;re proposing right away though. Lottery day TBD yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Utah has a lot of bigs, including their last pick, Kanter, who had limited PT this season. He still has a long way to go. But they have some interesting players the Pistons could take a look to as Favors and Al Jefferson. I like how Favors have deleveloped this year, after a weak first year in the league. But, depending on which pick we finally get, it might be too expensive for us taking that trade. I&#8217;d rather have Bynum traded for a second round pick and Tyler Zeller selected with our first rounder. Get an athletic PF/C (I belive we can find one suitable for us in the second round) and Zeller plus keeping Jerebko makes more sense to me.  Should Dumars decide to go for Sullinger I would make the trade you&#8217;re proposing right away though. Lottery day TBD yet?</p>
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		<title>By: France</title>
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		<dc:creator>France</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 08:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 07:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am beginning to think that the Utah Jazz&#039; overstock of big men may be a chance for a potential trade with the Pistons. Derrick Favors is still yet to show any real signs of being the player people thought he would be out of college (although I think he will be). Maybe trading Jonas &amp; Will plus this years first rounder and maybe a conditional 2013 first rounder to grab this guy. He would add length, athleticism and defence not to mention so nasty ass highlights along the way (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SKYpEVkiSA). Would they go for it? They&#039;d get 2 first rounders, a developing wing and some cheap depth at the point. If he doesnt fire for us, his contract isnt a huge burden i.e CV31. I am beginning to see this pick as a bargaining chip rather than a future piece of our next dynasty as I was when we were around 4-25...

Any thoughts?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am beginning to think that the Utah Jazz&#8217; overstock of big men may be a chance for a potential trade with the Pistons. Derrick Favors is still yet to show any real signs of being the player people thought he would be out of college (although I think he will be). Maybe trading Jonas &amp; Will plus this years first rounder and maybe a conditional 2013 first rounder to grab this guy. He would add length, athleticism and defence not to mention so nasty ass highlights along the way (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SKYpEVkiSA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SKYpEVkiSA</a>). Would they go for it? They&#8217;d get 2 first rounders, a developing wing and some cheap depth at the point. If he doesnt fire for us, his contract isnt a huge burden i.e CV31. I am beginning to see this pick as a bargaining chip rather than a future piece of our next dynasty as I was when we were around 4-25&#8230;</p>
<p>Any thoughts?</p>
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