Comments on: Lawrence Frank puts words in my mouth http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/lawrence-frank-puts-words-in-my-mouth/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Sun, 19 May 2013 23:33:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/lawrence-frank-puts-words-in-my-mouth/comment-page-1/#comment-64869 tarsier Mon, 23 Apr 2012 00:07:34 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/lawrence-frank-puts-words-in-my-mouth/#comment-64869 Nobody claims that the Pistons were tanking during those games. It is the ones since that are up for debate. Nobody claims that the Pistons were tanking during those games. It is the ones since that are up for debate.

]]> By: alex http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/lawrence-frank-puts-words-in-my-mouth/comment-page-1/#comment-64856 alex Sun, 22 Apr 2012 20:30:43 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/lawrence-frank-puts-words-in-my-mouth/#comment-64856 @Max,  <strong>does the word sarcasm mean anything to you?</strong>   You made my point.  I strongly do not think anything the pistons have done recently or in the past few years would be tanking.  At the end of the last three seasons, we have improved our standings and thus decreased our draft position.  It's insulting to think the pistons have tanked. @Max,  does the word sarcasm mean anything to you?
 
You made my point.  I strongly do not think anything the pistons have done recently or in the past few years would be tanking.  At the end of the last three seasons, we have improved our standings and thus decreased our draft position.  It’s insulting to think the pistons have tanked.

]]> By: Max http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/lawrence-frank-puts-words-in-my-mouth/comment-page-1/#comment-64852 Max Sun, 22 Apr 2012 20:03:31 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/lawrence-frank-puts-words-in-my-mouth/#comment-64852 @Alex.....I guess the Spurs were tanking during every occasion when they deliberately rested Duncan the past few years,  Popovich must get so frustrated when they win despite his decision to tank. @Alex…..I guess the Spurs were tanking during every occasion when they deliberately rested Duncan the past few years,  Popovich must get so frustrated when they win despite his decision to tank.

]]> By: alex http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/lawrence-frank-puts-words-in-my-mouth/comment-page-1/#comment-64803 alex Sun, 22 Apr 2012 08:01:10 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/lawrence-frank-puts-words-in-my-mouth/#comment-64803 Definitely right.  Any team that uses a lineup that isn't your best the whole 48 minutes of a game, 82 games a season are tanking.  That's why I can't believe our five best players aren't playing 48 minutes a night every game.  After all, decisions to rest players during the game is just giving other teams an opportunity to go against our weak bench players.  Obviously it's the same scenario to rest one of our better players for an entire night.  Physical reasons be damned; these are professional athletes that should be able to go no matter what. Definitely right.  Any team that uses a lineup that isn’t your best the whole 48 minutes of a game, 82 games a season are tanking.  That’s why I can’t believe our five best players aren’t playing 48 minutes a night every game.  After all, decisions to rest players during the game is just giving other teams an opportunity to go against our weak bench players.  Obviously it’s the same scenario to rest one of our better players for an entire night.  Physical reasons be damned; these are professional athletes that should be able to go no matter what.

]]> By: Marc http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/lawrence-frank-puts-words-in-my-mouth/comment-page-1/#comment-64771 Marc Sun, 22 Apr 2012 06:03:47 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/lawrence-frank-puts-words-in-my-mouth/#comment-64771 @ DG Maybe Waiters could move, up, would be floored if Wroten would, talk about tanking, number 1 seed in conference tourney lose to the ten yikes, and Drummond would be a perfect fit for the Pistons, that is the big bodied center they need, I'm not high on Zellers, I'd love to find a way to move up and get T Rob or PJ3. I wonder whether Perry Jones can play center, man that kid can play though. Also MKG, lets hope the lottery balls fall in our favor @ DG
Maybe Waiters could move, up, would be floored if Wroten would, talk about tanking, number 1 seed in conference tourney lose to the ten yikes, and Drummond would be a perfect fit for the Pistons, that is the big bodied center they need, I’m not high on Zellers, I’d love to find a way to move up and get T Rob or PJ3. I wonder whether Perry Jones can play center, man that kid can play though. Also MKG, lets hope the lottery balls fall in our favor

]]> By: Marc http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/lawrence-frank-puts-words-in-my-mouth/comment-page-1/#comment-64769 Marc Sun, 22 Apr 2012 05:40:20 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/lawrence-frank-puts-words-in-my-mouth/#comment-64769 Dan the Pistons aren't tanking for the simple fact that they were leading the Cavs by 50 at the end of the third last Tuesday, and almost beat the Bulls. I think they Pistons try to play hard every night and the fact that you say that Wallace is a more valuable or desired piece then Macklin right now. I'm not so sure about that, I don't think that Macklin is a scrub, does he need seasoning yes, but he is a freak athlete that with the right seasoning and work ethic over the summer, could play a lot like Iman Shumpert of the Knicks next year, with less defense. why not get him time now? But no the Pistons coach isn't deliberately trying to lose. He is very upset about all the losing along with the coaching staff and players and the margins recently are disappointing. Also, I happen to disagree with the whole tank for Davis thing, if you want him to be a center. He won't be any good in that position for another three years in the league until he balks up, until then he is gonna get pushed around on the inside, I think he should have stayed at Kentucky and built himself into his body Dan the Pistons aren’t tanking for the simple fact that they were leading the Cavs by 50 at the end of the third last Tuesday, and almost beat the Bulls. I think they Pistons try to play hard every night and the fact that you say that Wallace is a more valuable or desired piece then Macklin right now. I’m not so sure about that, I don’t think that Macklin is a scrub, does he need seasoning yes, but he is a freak athlete that with the right seasoning and work ethic over the summer, could play a lot like Iman Shumpert of the Knicks next year, with less defense. why not get him time now? But no the Pistons coach isn’t deliberately trying to lose. He is very upset about all the losing along with the coaching staff and players and the margins recently are disappointing. Also, I happen to disagree with the whole tank for Davis thing, if you want him to be a center. He won’t be any good in that position for another three years in the league until he balks up, until then he is gonna get pushed around on the inside, I think he should have stayed at Kentucky and built himself into his body

]]> By: Fennis http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/lawrence-frank-puts-words-in-my-mouth/comment-page-1/#comment-64752 Fennis Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:10:39 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/lawrence-frank-puts-words-in-my-mouth/#comment-64752 @Travis   This guy Wroten looks pretty good based on the write up at nbadraft.net. I've been following draft coverage for several weeks and this is the first I'm hearing of him. @Travis
 
This guy Wroten looks pretty good based on the write up at nbadraft.net. I’ve been following draft coverage for several weeks and this is the first I’m hearing of him.

]]> By: Ryan P. http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/lawrence-frank-puts-words-in-my-mouth/comment-page-1/#comment-64736 Ryan P. Sat, 21 Apr 2012 15:41:16 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/lawrence-frank-puts-words-in-my-mouth/#comment-64736 It's interesting....all this tanking talk makes my head hurt.  But I'll bring up an example..it may or may not be relevant. Take Cleveland for example: Lester Hudson, sure he's not that good but definitely a dangerous scorer hungry for another NBA chance, was not signed for the remainder of the season by the Cavs. This guy had a pretty nice 3 weeks considering he's already 27 yrs old and has bounced around a bit having just graduated college 3 years ago.   Instead of Cleveland keeping him on for the rest of the  season but not playing him, they just let him go. I think it was pretty clear, they feel like trotting out a limited Anthony Parker and Donald Sloan would be better than having Hudson chuck 20 shots a game and maybe get hot and win ya a few more games.  And lately Hudson's minutes were diminishing as Cleveland knew winning games was not in their best interest. Sure, maybe the Cavs wanted to save a few extra nickels on not signing Hudson for the remaining week or so of the season....or do him a nice favor and let him get signed to a playoff team (which happened). But if you read between the lines... they were tanking. Basically, if you can read between the lines (let's face it, not everybody has the mental capacity to do so) you know Detroit didn't really go out there busting their a$$es the last few tries.  Geez, Minny didn't have Love, Rubio, Ridnour (or Darko) and still rain train. It’s interesting….all this tanking talk makes my head hurt.  But I’ll bring up an example..it may or may not be relevant.

Take Cleveland for example: Lester Hudson, sure he’s not that good but definitely a dangerous scorer hungry for another NBA chance, was not signed for the remainder of the season by the Cavs. This guy had a pretty nice 3 weeks considering he’s already 27 yrs old and has bounced around a bit having just graduated college 3 years ago.   Instead of Cleveland keeping him on for the rest of the  season but not playing him, they just let him go.

I think it was pretty clear, they feel like trotting out a limited Anthony Parker and Donald Sloan would be better than having Hudson chuck 20 shots a game and maybe get hot and win ya a few more games.  And lately Hudson’s minutes were diminishing as Cleveland knew winning games was not in their best interest. Sure, maybe the Cavs wanted to save a few extra nickels on not signing Hudson for the remaining week or so of the season….or do him a nice favor and let him get signed to a playoff team (which happened).

But if you read between the lines… they were tanking.

Basically, if you can read between the lines (let’s face it, not everybody has the mental capacity to do so) you know Detroit didn’t really go out there busting their a$$es the last few tries.  Geez, Minny didn’t have Love, Rubio, Ridnour (or Darko) and still rain train.

]]> By: DG http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/lawrence-frank-puts-words-in-my-mouth/comment-page-1/#comment-64734 DG Sat, 21 Apr 2012 15:11:43 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/lawrence-frank-puts-words-in-my-mouth/#comment-64734 Let's see...the Pistons take the Bulls to overtime and destroy the Cavaliers by more than 30 points, and now they are accused of tanking.  Wouldn't they have been better served to tank before they had more wins than any of the teams they are trying to tank their way in front of?  The Pistons are at the mercy of other teams winning in order to improve their lottery status.  Chances are they are picking 9th.  But then Monroe 7th when they wanted Cousins and Knight 8th when they wanted Biyombo haven't been too bad. They'll take the best talent that slips and be fine.  Worst case scenario they end up with Sullinger or Zellers.  Weren't Pistons fans hoping they'd get Sullinger last year?  Personally I'd prefer the more athletic Zellers.  Last thing the Pistons need is two bigs playing below the rim. I also have a suspicion that a couple more guys (like Wroten, Royce and Waiters) will move up in the draft ahead of where the Pistons pick and push somebody like Barnes or Drummond down.  I'd be happy with either one of those guys. Let’s see…the Pistons take the Bulls to overtime and destroy the Cavaliers by more than 30 points, and now they are accused of tanking.  Wouldn’t they have been better served to tank before they had more wins than any of the teams they are trying to tank their way in front of?  The Pistons are at the mercy of other teams winning in order to improve their lottery status.  Chances are they are picking 9th.  But then Monroe 7th when they wanted Cousins and Knight 8th when they wanted Biyombo haven’t been too bad.

They’ll take the best talent that slips and be fine.  Worst case scenario they end up with Sullinger or Zellers.  Weren’t Pistons fans hoping they’d get Sullinger last year?  Personally I’d prefer the more athletic Zellers.  Last thing the Pistons need is two bigs playing below the rim.

I also have a suspicion that a couple more guys (like Wroten, Royce and Waiters) will move up in the draft ahead of where the Pistons pick and push somebody like Barnes or Drummond down.  I’d be happy with either one of those guys.

]]> By: Travis http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/lawrence-frank-puts-words-in-my-mouth/comment-page-1/#comment-64693 Travis Sat, 21 Apr 2012 02:32:22 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/lawrence-frank-puts-words-in-my-mouth/#comment-64693 I agree with Fennis. The Pistons coaching staff & organization are not tanking. It's rather hypocritical and immature to advocate for giving minutes to the young players to see what they are made of and then say that the Pistons are deliberately tanking by doing so. Having the young players earn their playing time by practicing hard should be rewarded, even if they aren't the best team that Frank could put on the court at the end of the season. Calling out the Pistons for tanking when they clearly are not, shows a lack of mature analysis. I agree with Fennis. The Pistons coaching staff & organization are not tanking. It’s rather hypocritical and immature to advocate for giving minutes to the young players to see what they are made of and then say that the Pistons are deliberately tanking by doing so.

Having the young players earn their playing time by practicing hard should be rewarded, even if they aren’t the best team that Frank could put on the court at the end of the season.

Calling out the Pistons for tanking when they clearly are not, shows a lack of mature analysis.

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