Comments on: Detroit Pistons #DraftDreams: Terrence Jones

By: rick77

rick77 — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 03:52:08 +0000

We can argue til the cows jump over the moon. Kaman is not better than Prince. He is slow big man that is the same age or close to same age as Prince and plays no defense. I kow what Im getting out of Prince and not interested in a homecoming to appease a impatient fan base. The team has new coach and searching for identity. Stop looking for reasons to tank. If my job depended on a combination of playing Daye at the three or Prince Im sure as hell running with what I know. I could see if he was jacking up 20 shots a game but he is not and if you have been paying attention you saw teh outlier a few weeks back in the blog that showed all these guys on team aere taking right around the same amount of shots. The argument is weak because most people dont understand all the nuances of a game and what plays the coach calls. Everyones opinion is speculation because we dont know and all we can do is guess. ”MEMO” Im not saying I know everything either but the majority of the games I have watched players are passing up shots and their have been plenty of times where he got the ball with less than 5 seconds on the clock. He is veteran and I doubt he is going to pass up shot sif he is stuck with the ball. I kow he is getting old but I have read back in the day where people wanted guys like Grant Hill back and he is good but he is playing like every other game and what young three does Phoenix have waiting in the wings? Allow nature to take its course and if things fall into place this summer maybe just maybe Prince will finally have someone who is his equal and relegate him to backup duty but to cast him off because he is having a bad season makes no sense other than fan apathy.

By: Daye and Knight

Daye and Knight — Thu, 19 Apr 2012 21:00:29 +0000

I’ll have to read the rest of what you said later since im leaving for work but I have to let it be known…

Mo Williams>Prince…Kamen>Prince

Have you seen his FG% this season? Why is he taking shots? And his defense is definitely not the same as it once was 100 years ago…stop living in the past, your arguements will be better off if you just let Prince go…like the rest of us who have seen his game this season

By: rick77

rick77 — Thu, 19 Apr 2012 20:19:06 +0000

I think its funny that when Prince has a bad game that he is just garbage all of a sudden. What you dont understand or underestimate the value of a veteran. Did you see how bad they looked w/o Prince and Wallace on defense? Were you high because it should be painfully obvious that those two are your best defenders along with Stuckey. So to get rid of two of your better assets in terms of building a identity would be offensive in my opinion. I say that because then what is the identity of the team if you keep trading players for other teams trash. Kaman made the All Star game wooptie doo so did Mo Williams and what has he done lately? He is slow and the Pistons would still get punished in the paint on a nightly basis. Im sure Prince realizes he is not the main option but until you watch a game in its entirety how can you assess something when alot of people just regurgertate what someone else said. I have watched games when guys have passed up shots and he was the last one with the ball. Who else is gonna shoot it if the team is always deferring when they may have a better shot?Its not about me liking Tayshaun but being confident he will do the job to the best of his ability instead of running around moping and making excuses(Daye). Prince earned his spot and until someone takes it Im ok with him being Detroits small forward. If Prince acted like Daye when he was breaking into the league would people have had the same feeling about him? Im sure in the offseason Gm and Coach will have a sit down and organize things in way that benefits all parties involved.

As for Stuckey Ive always been a fan so that argument wont cut it with me because I always believed he was miscast as a player on Detroit on top of being coached into the position his second year by a rookie coach. Also believe had he played on a team stacked like most of the guards around the league then he would have a much better resume as well as following. I feel Knight and Stuckey for ma a great combination and with addition of a big man who can help Monroe weakside then the team will reach new heights. Every Playoff team has a veteran presence and you fooling yourself if you believe Dumars is gonna pull lightning outta a bottle and take a young team to the Finals w/o veterean leadership.

By: RussellC

RussellC — Thu, 19 Apr 2012 20:14:26 +0000

You can pretty much throw a blanket over the big men after Davis, Drummond, and Robinson who will not be there if the Pistons don’t get lucky. Zeller, Henson, PJIII, Sullinger, Leonard are not that exciting. I would go for volume if we end up picking 8th or 9th. Trade down to the mid teens if you can get another first rounder. Go after Moultrie and Melo in the first and Jae Crowder and Machado in the second round. Amnesty Charlie V, let Maxiel walk, find a taker for Prince or Daye. You would have a team that can at least play at a tempo worth watching and that could grow into something in the next year or two.

By: sop

sop — Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:44:08 +0000

Oh and I don’t want to leave you without my expert analysis of the
Top 30 Prospects

1.     Anthony Davis
2.     Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
3.     Bradley Beal
4.     Andre Drummond
5.     Thomas Robinson
6.     Jared Sullinger
7.     Perry Jones III
8.     Harrison Barnes
9.     Terrence Jones
10. Tyler Zeller
11. Jeremy Lamb
12. Damian Lillard
13. John Henson
14. Dion Waiters
15. Arnett Moultrie
16. Austin Rivers
17. Meyers Leonard
18. Terrence Ross
19. Tony Wroten Jr.
20. Kendal Marshall
21. Jeffery Taylor
22. Tyshaun Taylor
23. Royce White
24. Will Barton
25. Marquis Teague
26. Doron Lamb
27. Fab Melo
28. Andrew Nicholson
29. Draymond Green
30. Evan Fournier

By: sop

sop — Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:41:37 +0000

5 for 1 Questions:
1. Would playing with B. Knight be good for both players or bad?
2. Has Jones proved he can make the shift to SF?
3. Is he big enough to play at PF full time?
4. How did playing with A. Davis and MKG impact Jones?
5. How many times with Jones make that terrible cry-baby face as a rookie?
Answers:
1. good
2. No. He has almost no chance of making the switch on defense where he lacks the quickness of a SF.
3. Yes. Though I think he’s closer to 6’8” than 6’9”, a 7’3” wingspan and some bulk makes up for it.
4. Big positive impact. Just being around the work ethic and winner’s mentality of those 2 helped him.
5. A lot. He’s still quite emotionally immature and doesn’t fit the high character mold Joe D wants.

By: Anthony

Anthony — Thu, 19 Apr 2012 17:48:31 +0000

I agree that the Pistons could pass the teams ahead of us just by making a couple right moves and believing in Frank(I already do) but you have to give up something to get something and right now Stuckey is our biggest trade asset besides the untouchable Monroe and Knight. Stucky has done a great job this year because for the most part hes been able to play at the 2 instead of the 1, I’d hate to lose him but you cant trade a “banana for a snackpac”. The fact is that we can’t argue back and forth over what the pistons should do until draft day because if we win the lottery and get the first pick then obviously our “problems” are going to change so all we can do now is dream. I have high ones for these guys because i sit here and watch every game that i can and see the potential they have and if we had a full season this current team would be in the playoff hunt right now. Don”t forget that Max can become a free agent this off season and he probably will opt out of his last year to test the market because his playing time could be cut next year for a rookie we pick in the draft and right now his stock is as high as its ever been. He wont get 5mill a year from another team but he”ll get a better offer this year then next (just a hunch) So with his 5 mill coming off and the amnesty of charlie this off season we might have a little money to work with. Tay and singlers rights to Dallas for Odom and some cash?

By: Daye and Knight

Daye and Knight — Thu, 19 Apr 2012 17:41:40 +0000

Tayshaun would be OK if he wasn’t trying to take the most shots in a team that has Knight, Stuckey and Monroe. Let the young guys play through each other not Prince. Prince is dead weight and people on here have a right to complain about him because he’s lost us a few games trying to take the final shot and missing. He needs to realize he’s not a first option on this team or any other team in the entire league. Keep prince now only because Daye is worst but if we get a SF in the draft like Barnes, Jones or PJIII then yes we trade the “former” fresh prince of Detroit. Kamen is a veteran and has been to an all star game, so how can you put prince over him right now? Kamen would be better than reaching for a big man with our pick if Davis, Robinson and Drummond are already gone. You can like Tayshaun all you want you have that right, just like I had my right to like Stuckey when no one else on here did other than maybe 2-3….but make NO mistake about it, Prince is a joke and the sooner we get rid of him the better

By: rick77

rick77 — Thu, 19 Apr 2012 16:44:35 +0000

Are you serious? Trade Stuckey and have to start over as far as chemistry goes. How bout we establish a team with an identity before we start trading players that are potential assets. The Kings and no other team in the history of the NBA does big men for small men trades unless their are more teams involved. How bout we get rid of dead weight like Austin Daye and second rounder for someone who has two first rounders in the draft? I would do that before I give Stuckey away and thats a NBA2K type of deal when the Kings have Evans playing the two. Id take Machado in second round if available and take best big men at whatever spot we get early, then go for a project with the third pick. Tayshaun is not going anywhere so people need to leave that one alone. Young teams need veteran leadership and Kaman surely wont provide that in my opinion. Hes a scorer and thats it. He does nothing exceptionally well besides getting dunked on. Prince on the other hand eventually will grow into the same role as Ben Wallace and be happy with it. The fans need to stop focusing on the negative. We have been down and their is no way to go but up. It takes time but its coming soon. I look at teams like the Hawks, Magic, Pacers.Sixers,Knicks, Bucks, and yes the Celtics and say the Pistons, with the right moves and draft picks could easily surpass those teams if they buy into the coach and the team. Hawks will lose Smith eventually because he wants Joe Johnson $$$, Magic have discord with star player and coach, Pacers are young and will be there, Sixers will go as far as Collins takes them and losing Speights will hurt long term, Knicks are the Knicks, all you have to do is out defense them, Bucks do this same thing every year, and the Celtics are getting old. We know about the Alpha Dogs, Bulls and Heat, but first we need to pass those other teams up and then develop a strategy as to how to beat those two.

By: Daye and Knight

Daye and Knight — Thu, 19 Apr 2012 16:44:25 +0000

You lost me at “trade stuck” but either way this would never happen. The Kings already have Evans, Thorton, Jimmer, Thomas and now Williams so why would they need Stuckey? I doubt they would pass on the opportunity to have Cousins and Drummond on the same team that would be a scary front court. The only way we get Cousins is if we throw in a first round pick and even that wouldn’t be enough because he’s been playing too good ever since Smart took over as coach.