Comments on: Detroit Pistons #DraftDreams: Jeremy Lamb http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/detroit-pistons-draftdreams-jeremy-lamb/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Thu, 20 Jun 2013 03:39:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/detroit-pistons-draftdreams-jeremy-lamb/comment-page-1/#comment-64412 Patrick Hayes Thu, 19 Apr 2012 00:31:19 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9806#comment-64412 <p>"I’m glad your such a believer in Rip even after he gave us so many seasons of mediocrity after Billups left his side"</p> <p>It has nothing to do with believing or not believing. In his prime, he was a fringe All-Star caliber player, in the top third of starters at his position in the league. If you're saying Lamb "only" has a Hamilton ceiling, I'd certainly gamble on that in the late lottery. Sullinger, for example, might only have like a Kenny Thomas ceiling.</p> <p>"Rip lead UConn to a title. Lamb couldn’t lead UConn out of the 1st round."</p> <p>You're right. Lamb wasn't the best player on a title team. He was just the second best player on a title team as a freshman.</p> <p> </p> “I’m glad your such a believer in Rip even after he gave us so many seasons of mediocrity after Billups left his side”

It has nothing to do with believing or not believing. In his prime, he was a fringe All-Star caliber player, in the top third of starters at his position in the league. If you’re saying Lamb “only” has a Hamilton ceiling, I’d certainly gamble on that in the late lottery. Sullinger, for example, might only have like a Kenny Thomas ceiling.

“Rip lead UConn to a title. Lamb couldn’t lead UConn out of the 1st round.”

You’re right. Lamb wasn’t the best player on a title team. He was just the second best player on a title team as a freshman.

 

]]> By: Anthony http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/detroit-pistons-draftdreams-jeremy-lamb/comment-page-1/#comment-64405 Anthony Wed, 18 Apr 2012 23:11:48 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9806#comment-64405 Trade Stuck, rights to Singler and our second round pick(s) to the Kings for Cousins. They take drummond to replace him. With our pick we take PGIII, Lamb or Marshall whichever is available or trade up using Charlie V or Tay and our first round pick as bait to land Barnes. Knight gordon barnes monroe cousins Trade Stuck, rights to Singler and our second round pick(s) to the Kings for Cousins. They take drummond to replace him. With our pick we take PGIII, Lamb or Marshall whichever is available or trade up using Charlie V or Tay and our first round pick as bait to land Barnes.
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]]> By: sop http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/detroit-pistons-draftdreams-jeremy-lamb/comment-page-1/#comment-64392 sop Wed, 18 Apr 2012 21:57:14 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9806#comment-64392 I'm glad your such a believer in Rip even after he gave us so many seasons of mediocrity after Billups left his side, but all this is besides the point. Rip lead UConn to a title. Lamb couldn't lead UConn out of the 1st round. The fact is Lamb isn't a leader I would prefer not to pick up another follower who also can't get to the rim. I’m glad your such a believer in Rip even after he gave us so many seasons of mediocrity after Billups left his side, but all this is besides the point. Rip lead UConn to a title. Lamb couldn’t lead UConn out of the 1st round. The fact is Lamb isn’t a leader I would prefer not to pick up another follower who also can’t get to the rim.

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/detroit-pistons-draftdreams-jeremy-lamb/comment-page-1/#comment-64391 Patrick Hayes Wed, 18 Apr 2012 21:31:25 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9806#comment-64391 <p>Really? How many two guards in the NBA right now are as good as Hamilton in his prime? It has actually become one of the weaker positions in the league. Kobe, Joe Johnson, Ginobili and Ray Allen are aging. Wade is still in his prime, but his style of play is not conducive to playing deep into his 30s at a high level. If Lamb's ceiling is Rip Hamilton -- and I'd argue that Lamb does project as a better defender and 3-point shooter than Hamilton did coming out of college -- he's definitely worth a top 10 pick. Name great young twos around the league right now -- Kevin Martin, Monta Ellis, Eric Gordon, Harden, Afflalo, maybe Stuckey if you consider him solely a two ... the list is shrinking once those older guys retire and decline.</p> <p>Not necessarily from the Pistons perspective, but just in general, I'd probably take a chance on a two like Lamb in the 7-10 range over a big with limited upside like Sullinger or Zeller.</p> Really? How many two guards in the NBA right now are as good as Hamilton in his prime? It has actually become one of the weaker positions in the league. Kobe, Joe Johnson, Ginobili and Ray Allen are aging. Wade is still in his prime, but his style of play is not conducive to playing deep into his 30s at a high level. If Lamb’s ceiling is Rip Hamilton — and I’d argue that Lamb does project as a better defender and 3-point shooter than Hamilton did coming out of college — he’s definitely worth a top 10 pick. Name great young twos around the league right now — Kevin Martin, Monta Ellis, Eric Gordon, Harden, Afflalo, maybe Stuckey if you consider him solely a two … the list is shrinking once those older guys retire and decline.

Not necessarily from the Pistons perspective, but just in general, I’d probably take a chance on a two like Lamb in the 7-10 range over a big with limited upside like Sullinger or Zeller.

]]> By: sop http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/detroit-pistons-draftdreams-jeremy-lamb/comment-page-1/#comment-64390 sop Wed, 18 Apr 2012 21:22:14 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9806#comment-64390 That's the idea of a ceiling. He could reach Rip's level, but it's pretty unlikely. He's not aggressive, explosive or vocal enough and will probably only end up as a decent bench player. He's just not worthy of a ton ten pick, especially when there are a number of skilled big men who are much harder to get than a wing of Lamb's ability. That’s the idea of a ceiling. He could reach Rip’s level, but it’s pretty unlikely. He’s not aggressive, explosive or vocal enough and will probably only end up as a decent bench player. He’s just not worthy of a ton ten pick, especially when there are a number of skilled big men who are much harder to get than a wing of Lamb’s ability.

]]> By: sop http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/detroit-pistons-draftdreams-jeremy-lamb/comment-page-1/#comment-64389 sop Wed, 18 Apr 2012 21:17:09 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9806#comment-64389 how about an effective player vs. a non-effective stick. PJ3 has a great skill to size level. Henson will struggle hold position against NBA bigs and many GMs think he'll only be a half-decent weakside help shot blocker. how about an effective player vs. a non-effective stick. PJ3 has a great skill to size level. Henson will struggle hold position against NBA bigs and many GMs think he’ll only be a half-decent weakside help shot blocker.

]]> By: vic http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/detroit-pistons-draftdreams-jeremy-lamb/comment-page-1/#comment-64387 vic Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:48:27 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9806#comment-64387 yeah i agree with that, but every Pistons fan knows we need a defensive shot blocker over another sF. the only way i'd take PJ is if all the first round ones were gone. yeah i agree with that, but every Pistons fan knows we need a defensive shot blocker over another sF. the only way i’d take PJ is if all the first round ones were gone.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/detroit-pistons-draftdreams-jeremy-lamb/comment-page-1/#comment-64386 Andrew Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:45:08 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9806#comment-64386 I personally like Lambs game a lot, I think he can get a little carried away with his dribbling, but if I were a GM I would probably pick him top ten, he has that type of talent and potential. He had to deal with his head coach not  being on the side lines for the majority of the season. And like you said Patrick Drummond, Oriakhi and Napier all played pretty small roles on a UCONN team that wasn't supposed to be rebuilding, but reloading. I think it speaks a lot about his character on how he handled this season. I personally like Lambs game a lot, I think he can get a little carried away with his dribbling, but if I were a GM I would probably pick him top ten, he has that type of talent and potential. He had to deal with his head coach not  being on the side lines for the majority of the season. And like you said Patrick Drummond, Oriakhi and Napier all played pretty small roles on a UCONN team that wasn’t supposed to be rebuilding, but reloading. I think it speaks a lot about his character on how he handled this season.

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/detroit-pistons-draftdreams-jeremy-lamb/comment-page-1/#comment-64373 Patrick Hayes Wed, 18 Apr 2012 19:02:47 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9806#comment-64373 <p>If Lamb's ceiling is Rip 2.0, how is he barely a top 10 worthy prospect? Hamilton was an All-Star and went 7th in a pretty loaded draft in 1999. That '99 top 10 produced six All-Stars, one of the steadiest PGs of the last decade in Andre Miller, two sixth man winners in Odom and Terry and a guy in Bender who displayed a ton of potential before a career-ending series of injuries. You think this draft is that superior to that one where someone who is comparable to Hamilton is only on the fringe of the top 10?</p> If Lamb’s ceiling is Rip 2.0, how is he barely a top 10 worthy prospect? Hamilton was an All-Star and went 7th in a pretty loaded draft in 1999. That ’99 top 10 produced six All-Stars, one of the steadiest PGs of the last decade in Andre Miller, two sixth man winners in Odom and Terry and a guy in Bender who displayed a ton of potential before a career-ending series of injuries. You think this draft is that superior to that one where someone who is comparable to Hamilton is only on the fringe of the top 10?

]]> By: sop http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/04/detroit-pistons-draftdreams-jeremy-lamb/comment-page-1/#comment-64371 sop Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:41:57 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9806#comment-64371 FYI every scout in the NBA would put PJIII above Henson. FYI every scout in the NBA would put PJIII above Henson.

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