Comments on: Pistons looking for Austin Daye trades

By: frankie d

frankie d — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 21:23:58 +0000

what you say about mcgee is absolutely correct. which is why is would be extremely valuable to trade for him, have him around for a year, and then make a judgment about his value.
if he is capable of learning how to play his postion, with his natural talents, who knows what his market value will be…
it certainly will be right around or more than jordan’s money.
the one thing i really like about him is that he actually requested a big man coach.
how many young players actually are aware enough to request coaching?
how many young guys are humble enough to say, yes, i need a coach to help me improve my game.
his mom confirms that request.
the wizards confirm the request.
to me, it says that this is a young guy who is hungry to learn and given the right coach, he could improve dramatically.
i do think he is amazingly immature, and he plays dumb. but i don’t think he has an inflated sense of his potential.
i do think, if he reached his potential, that he could be right up there with bynum and howard as far as center play is concerned. he could dominate teams with his defensive play.
whether he ever plays to that level is a real question. but it is not beyond the realm of possibility to imagine him doing it. it is not as though he’s maxiell dreaming about being all defense nba.

By: Patrick Hayes

Patrick Hayes — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:54:25 +0000

Upside-wise? He's worth in the realm of what DeAndre Jordan got.

But Jordan didn't have the ... interesting I guess? ... baggage that McGee has. He has one of the worst basketball IQs in the league, he's immature and he has an inflated/entitled sense of how good he is right now. Those things, to me, make him worth a bit less than Jordan.

Jordan is just a more disciplined player. He shoots 64 percent b/c he rarely takes a shot that isn't a dunk. McGee shoots 53 percent, which is good, but it could be even higher if he eliminated his crazy need to act like he has a back to the basket game and take ridiculous shots that he's not capable of making. McGee supporters will probably argue that the lack of discipline in his game likely stems from a Wiz organization that is a mess, but Jordan isn't exactly from the model of stable franchises either, and he's turning out OK.

I dunno. I'd probably offer McGee $8-$10 million per if I desperately needed a big man because that seems to be about the going rate, but I'd be terrified doing it.

By: apa8ren9

apa8ren9 — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:41:32 +0000

I am getting a bit too emotional about Daye because I am pissed at him right now. He did not specifically say he didnt want to work for them. You are right about that.
The point I was making is that he only cares about playing and it doesnt seem to me he fully understands why he is not playing. I dont want guys that only care about “playing”. I want guys that will impact the game and have the ability to contribute to an above .500 team. He has shown ZERO heart this year. Has not overcome the adversity named D. Wilkens. To me that is not something I want to see in a Pistons Uniform.

By: tarsier

tarsier — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:41:09 +0000

Just out of curiosity, what do you think McGee is worth?

By: Patrick Hayes

Patrick Hayes — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:32:23 +0000

LOL. That's why I like having you around. It's nice to have someone who is an expert on everything. Draft prospects? Detroit media? Portland media? National media? Beer? Frankie D is the man with the answers.

There is certainly a hierarchy of writers I respect/trust that I won't bother listing out, but Broussard has broken enough stories and is plugged in enough to big-time sources/agents that he's trustworthy. I'm sure he's gotten stuff wrong just like all the big names, but he's also broken enough credible news to merit paying attention to.

By: frankie d

frankie d — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:31:25 +0000

if joe can get a good young player in return for daye – say lopez or hickson – i’ll applaud it as a great move. but if he’s just going to dump him for the 40th pick in next year’s draft, then it will be a waste. the only guys i wouldn’t trade are monroe, knight and stuckey. everybody else can be had. for the right price. unfortunately joe hasn’t made a good trade or a transaction that makes much sense in a long while. (draft choices aside.)
that is what is frightening.

By: Mark

Mark — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:29:58 +0000

EXP contracts are valuable only when they are large EXP contracts, like of the $5-15 mil variety. As they offer substantial cap relief to a team.

Daye’s $2 mil EXP is basically worthless as an EXP in terms of any trade value for the contract itself.

In fact, waiting until next year is what would lower his value, because teams will know we have to trade him to get something. Trying to deal him now is exactly when you want to deal a player, before it becomes desparation.

By: frankie d

frankie d — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:27:22 +0000

blind squirrel…nut…
plus, he’s to lebron what chad ford is to dumars. seems whenever he wants to get something out, he gets it out through broussard.
broussard writes some truly silly stuff. i don’t even bother reading him unless it’s linked to something.
amazingly bad ideas with poor insight, especially considering he’s been doing this for a long time.
i’d rather read hollinger and thorpe and abbot even chad ford.

By: frankie d

frankie d — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:23:58 +0000

please point to a quote from daye that states that he is “a guy [that] doesnt want to work for [the pistons].”

By: Patrick Hayes

Patrick Hayes — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:21:17 +0000

The Rasheed thing was Chris Sheridan.