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Pistons CAN trade Rodney Stuckey this season

I previously linked to a report by Marc Stein of ESPN that said the Pistons could not trade Rodney Stuckey this season, due to terms of the new Collective Bargaining Agreement. But Stuckey became tradable March 1, according to a source with knowledge of the NBA’s CBA.

In future seasons, players like Stuckey, whose salaries increased by at least 120 percent from the previous season, can’t be traded until the latter of three months from signing or Jan. 15. This season, due to the protracted schedule, such players can’t be traded until the latter of two months from signing or March 1.

Rodney Stuckey agreed to terms with the Pistons on Dec. 17, and he officially signed Dec. 19, according to Stein.

ESPN’s trade machine has Stuckey available to use for trade ideas.

34 Comments

  • Mar 3, 20125:38 pm
    by Patrick Hayes

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    That’s interesting … I had noticed Stuckey was available on the Trade Machine but I guess never really thought anything of it. I still don’t think the Pistons will trade him or anyone at the deadline, but at least they have the option now.

  • Mar 3, 20125:43 pm
    by labatts

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    So long as they trade Prince, I’ll be happy (eye roll).

  • Mar 3, 20126:36 pm
    by Max

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    Nothing against Knight or Stuckey, but Rondo is seemingly available and he has a lot of the attributes that I look for in a Piston.

  • Mar 3, 20126:41 pm
    by Max

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    Also, Hickson is reportedly being shopped hard.  I don’t know what the price would be but he could be a good addition.

  • Mar 3, 20127:13 pm
    by Mark

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    ^I’d trade Daye for Hickson in a second. Apparantly the asking price is low for JJ, since he hasnt played well lately.

    On Stuckey, good to know he is available for trades, in case a big deal comes along and hes needed, but I didnt expect them to trade him either way. Esp since he and Knight are starting to look good together.

    • Mar 4, 20125:08 am
      by Peksecutioner

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      I doubt Daye would be enough to get JJ even though Kings need a forward. They’re both ”damaged goods” but JJ is probably valued more simply cause he is a big man. Maybe if Joe sweeten the deal with 2nd round pick or rights to Singler…

    • Mar 4, 20129:28 am
      by tarsier

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      It shouldn’t take much more than Daye. Hickson has almost no value at this point. But he would seem a worthwhile addition for a nominal fee. Just give him a little burn and fully expect to get rid of him. But maybe be pleasantly surprised.

      • Mar 4, 201210:56 am
        by Peksecutioner

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        I agree. We got nothing to lose, Daye is already pretty much lost. Same contract length or JJ’s a year shorter. Both teams should take the risk, if there’s risk at all. Maybe change of scenery can do good for both of them. I doubt anything will happen though.

      • Mar 4, 201211:47 am
        by Patrick Hayes

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        Only difference is Daye is signed next year and Hickson isn’t, so unless the Kings are in love with Daye’s potential, they might rather just let Hickson walk as a free agent. Maybe Daye and a future second rounder would do it.

        • Mar 4, 20126:40 pm
          by tarsier

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          Or else Houston’s. Or Macklin. At this point, though, I don’t think Hickson is worth an early second rounder.

  • Mar 3, 20127:58 pm
    by swish22

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    I’m still in dream state.  Dreaming of Stuckey in a Portland jersey, Prince in a Mavericks jersey and Kathy Ireland in my bedroom!   zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!! 

    • Mar 4, 20125:04 pm
      by Laser

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      Is Kathy Ireland still the go-to in a comment like this?

  • Mar 4, 201212:34 am
    by tom

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    I read the other day that Andre Blatche was being shopped. If he could be had on the cheap I wouldn’t mind giving him a shot.

    • Mar 4, 20127:17 am
      by frankie d

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      i’d rather stick a hot for

      • Mar 4, 20121:39 pm
        by frankie d

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        my post should have read this way:
        i’d rather stick a hot fork in my eye, rather than see blatche in a pistons’ uniform.
        he’s selfish, lazy and dumb, a great combination.
        heck, i’d rather have CV on the floor than blatche.  CV seems clueless, but he seems a better teammate and person.  blatche is a true cancer.
        a talented one, yes, but poisonous for a team.

    • Mar 4, 20129:30 am
      by tarsier

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      The only right price for Blatche is Charlie. Both are on bad deals. Blatche has a bit more upside. CV’s expires sooner. Sounds like a reasonable trade fit. But I certainly hope the WIzards don’t get an asset for Andray

  • Mar 4, 20127:11 am
    by frankie d

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    hmmmmm…very strange….
    this is what freep beat writer vince ellis, wrote about stuckey’s availability for a trade:
    “Alas, the executive mentioned Rodney Stuckey, who can’t be traded until the off-season because of rules implemented after the lockout. ”  (emphasis added)
    http://www.freep.com/article/20120304/SPORTS03/203040611/Vince-Ellis-Pistons-unlikely-to-make-big-trade
    what is correct?  can he be traded?  or is ellis correct in writing in the detroit free press that he cannot be traded until the off-season?
    inquiring minds want to know…
    obviously, it is not the most earth-shaking news – it is highly unlikely that joe d would trade stuckey – but it would be nice to know what is true and what is not true.

    • Mar 4, 201211:57 am
      by Patrick Hayes

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      Yeah, every local outlet has written that he can’t be. I’m pretty confident in Feldman’s report though, and the fact that he has no restriction next to his name in the trade machine is also a pretty good indicator. ESPN is usually pretty good about keeping that updated with correct CBA rules/info, so I’m sure there would be a restriction on including Stuckey on trades if he couldn’t be moved.

  • Mar 4, 201211:25 am
    by isaiah

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    the only players they need to keep is knight and monroe every one else gotta go there pointless to have

  • Mar 4, 20125:23 pm
    by Laser

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    They need to make a damn trade. This team keeps “waiting for the offseason” and evaluating. Constantly evaluating. The Pistons lead the league in evaluating. The new season starts, and of course they’ve done nothing, and then just make excuses as to why they’re somehow still terrible. Any trade is starting to look like a good trade right about now.
     
    The upcoming offseason cures none of the team’s salary woes. We’re in awful shape for this season and the next two if we don’t make some moves. If Joe can’t do a thing to change this roster he put together, why on earth is he still the team’s GM? He made a horrific mess, can’t do a damn thing to fix it, why does he still have his damn job? Anybody on earth could sit in his chair and do nothing for well over three years. I know babies who could do that.
     
    We could really stand to better position this team for the lottery by moving Tayshaun and/or Max. Then we could play hard and lose a lot all this year. Then we add a lottery pick and a late first rounder we got for Tayshaun. Next year we’re genuinely young and up-and-coming. We add some “veteran leadership” with a midlevel exception, and we’re set. We suck next year and get a true impact player at the top of the draft, and the team is pretty well set for the next decade. OR try to win as many games as we can now and wallow in the bottom third of the league for eternity.

    • Mar 4, 20126:44 pm
      by tarsier

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      But then how would Dumars know what he’s got? No, what Detroit needs is to figure out every wrinkle of why they are very bad and not abysmal. And every year players change/get drafted. So we really need more evaluation. Otherwise, the team might get good, but the dossiers wouldn’t be thick enough. We can’t be having that.

    • Mar 4, 20127:08 pm
      by Reaction

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      I think this is the first time I have ever agreed (with the last paragraph) with Laser(probably the last time too). We need to truly rebuild.. not whatever Dumars calls this

    • Mar 4, 20129:39 pm
      by Max

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      The Bulls got Rose by trying to get to the playoffs and not falling far short.   Tanking doesn’t guarantee  anything and it is poison to the culture.

      • Mar 5, 201210:50 am
        by tarsier

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        Another cliche but is there any evidence that tanking is poison to “the culture?” Somehow, whenever enough talent rolls around, it seems like “the culture” magically gets better. And then it is attributed to the latest source of additional talent (e.g. CP3).

        Of course having a poor record guarantees nothing. Even getting the top overall pick guarantees nothing. But having a poor record increases the odds of upping the talent level. And no one or two anecdotal exceptions can prove otherwise.

        I’m not in favor of telling players to try not to win. I’m just in favor of trading away all the veterans for young guys (and for bad contracts + picks) even though that inevitably means having less talent on the roster. And I’m in favor of giving the young guys major burn to allow them to better develop in spite of the fact that that too will reduce total wins usually.

        Kudos to Frank for mostly, although not perfectly, doing the latter. No kudos to Dumars for completely failing to do the former.

        • Mar 5, 20124:34 pm
          by Max

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          Seems like you are in favor of the Wizards and Kings.

          • Mar 5, 20125:30 pm
            by tarsier

            They have talent on the roster, but it is very young talent. And not yet enough either. Look at the Thunder, they were terrible in spite of having lots of too young talent. Then once their good young guys hit their third or fourth season, they really took off. If the Wizards and Kings can be that successful with accumulating talent (not culture), they too will start winning. I fully expect this of the Kings in the next two years. The Wiz, I don’t know. Wall looks to have been somewhat overrated, although still quite good. But I really didn’t like their haul in the last draft (I thought Vesely would be a complete bust and I expect him to continue to justify that expectation).

          • Mar 5, 20126:14 pm
            by Max

            The Thunder are good for the same reason any team was when they drafted a once in a decade transcendent player.   I would only compare the Thunder at this point to the Spurs who drafted Duncan, the Magic when they drafted Howard, the Mavs when they drafted Nowitski, the Heat when they drafted Wade or the Lakers when they acquired Kobe.  That’s it.  I wouldn’t even count Derek Rose.  You can’t follow these teams methods because these type of players are nearly impossible to draft or trade for on draft day.   It is fine to celebrate these organizations but their great luck was indelible to every bit of their success because it provided the foundation.   These level of players almost guarantee 50 win seasons every year no matter what their general managers or coaches do.
            So unless the Kings draft Anthony Davis and he is everything people expect and more, accumulating young talent will not help the Wizards because it is what they have been doing since they had Ben Wallace on their team and it has not worked.

          • Mar 5, 20128:02 pm
            by tarsier

            I love Durant but he is hardly a once in a decade player. There are several better players in the league: Lebron, Howard, Paul. Plus Kobe, Duncan, and Shaq all were better. And Rose or Griffin or even Cousins could turn out better. So in about two decades, that is 7-10 players of that caliber (even if you disagree about who is better than whom, you can’t disagree that they are on at least the same tier as Durant).

          • Mar 5, 20129:06 pm
            by Max

            He is a once in a decade or maybe even a once in league history example of his kind of player who is also in the conversation for the league’s best player.  Shaq is two decades ago.  Duncan is at least a decade ago.  The last player of Durant’s caliber was James and Durant might wind up being the best scorer ever.   He could pass Kareem.  Also, I was only naming players who are still with the team they originally played for since we were talking about the idea of acquiring young talent.
            BTW: I disagree that Rose, Griffen or Cousins can be better than Durant.   He and James, with Wade and Bryant standing alone on the next tier, are head and shoulders above everyone else unless Dirk gets hot in the playoffs.  Howard is only in the conversation of best player because of the league’s lack of dominant centers.  Rose as MVP last year was a travesty and the playoffs proved it.   This year; the way the Bulls win whether he plays or not continues to prove it.  The MVP jumped the shark a long time ago and there have been several players named who had no business in the conversation.

          • Mar 5, 201210:28 pm
            by tarsier

            I know Shaq is two decades ago. I did say that there were nearly 10 players “in two decades” of Durant’s caliber. Sure, they are better at some things and worse at others, but they are of the same caliber. And if you get 10 of them in 20 years, that makes them a once in two years player. And I forgot Wade, somehow. That was totally my bad.

            Rose as MVP was not a travesty as the playoffs have nothing to do with MVP (it is a regular season award). I thought Dwight deserved it, but Rose had a legit case, so it was not a travesty (like Russel getting it over Wilt and Robertson in the season they averaged over 50 ppg and better than 30-10-10 respectively).

            Also, include Love among those who could end up being on the same tier. Again, probably not, but the more players who could end up there, the more likely that at least one or two will.

            Also, highly unlikely Durant will be a better player than James. He is better at one thing: shooting. James is better at defense, passing, and driving.

  • Mar 5, 20126:23 pm
    by Max

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    Further, the Wizards players suffer in my belief from the lack of a Wallace.   Players like McGee and Blatche seem to fall short of people’s expectation every time they play but neither player has every had a veteran big men to help iron out their deficiencies and show them how it’s done.   We will never really know, but to my mind, McGree already seems like he will fall far short of his potential and I’d posit that throwing him into the fire and just giving him tons of minutes hurt his long term prospects and development because losing is acceptable.   He continues to start every game and faces no adverse consequences for all of his frequent mistakes and if anything his mistakes are almost becoming his habits.

    • Mar 5, 20128:05 pm
      by tarsier

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      Wallace is payed what a vet who is there to be an example/mentor/influence/leader is supposed to be paid. Prince is not. Hence why no Pistons fans complain about having Big Ben.

      • Mar 5, 20129:07 pm
        by Max

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        But they do complain that he plays minutes.

        • Mar 5, 201210:36 pm
          by tarsier

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          Yeah, which is fair. Most of what he brings to the team (in terms of development) is available without him playing. So it comes down to whether the young players are more benefited by watching him play in games or by havin more minutes themselves. You could argue it either way.

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