Comments on: Brandon Knight falls to No. 12 in redone draft, Pistons pick MarShon Brooks http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/brandon-knight-falls-to-no-12-in-redone-draft-pistons-pick-marshon-brooks/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Tue, 21 May 2013 21:00:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: leveltheone http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/brandon-knight-falls-to-no-12-in-redone-draft-pistons-pick-marshon-brooks/comment-page-1/#comment-63824 leveltheone Sat, 14 Apr 2012 11:22:46 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/brandon-knight-falls-to-no-12-in-redone-draft-pistons-pick-marshon-brooks/#comment-63824 the lesson in all this is people dont watch the games, knight struggled early with turn over in the last 30 plus games they have went down and his ast has went up along with steals. Franks system often takes night off the ball and makes him the designated 3 point shooter why? because he is the best on the team! all year he has shot around 37-38% for 3's, which explains whhy his FT numbers are lower no rookie has started more games than Knight and only Irving averages more minutes. brooks plays with the 2nd best PG in the league, and faired,leonard,williams and parson play are 3rd-4th options on their teams, they can have a big game and then vanish for 2 oe 3 games and no one cares. isiah thomas is the only excpectation but the king play an up  and down game, kyle thompson has just started to come on in the last month he has fresh legs, Knight has been push physically all year.... the lesson in all this is people dont watch the games, knight struggled early with turn over in the last 30 plus games they have went down and his ast has went up along with steals. Franks system often takes night off the ball and makes him the designated 3 point shooter why? because he is the best on the team! all year he has shot around 37-38% for 3′s, which explains whhy his FT numbers are lower no rookie has started more games than Knight and only Irving averages more minutes. brooks plays with the 2nd best PG in the league, and faired,leonard,williams and parson play are 3rd-4th options on their teams, they can have a big game and then vanish for 2 oe 3 games and no one cares. isiah thomas is the only excpectation but the king play an up  and down game, kyle thompson has just started to come on in the last month he has fresh legs, Knight has been push physically all year….

]]> By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/brandon-knight-falls-to-no-12-in-redone-draft-pistons-pick-marshon-brooks/comment-page-1/#comment-60676 tarsier Fri, 23 Mar 2012 10:39:32 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/brandon-knight-falls-to-no-12-in-redone-draft-pistons-pick-marshon-brooks/#comment-60676 What do expectations have to do with MVP? Nothing, according to any definition. But a lot, when it comes to voting. To win MVP without exceeding expectations, a player must be incredibly dominant. Basically, exceeding expectations garners favorable attention and makes people want to reward the player. That is how they lead to more MVP votes. What do expectations have to do with MVP? Nothing, according to any definition. But a lot, when it comes to voting. To win MVP without exceeding expectations, a player must be incredibly dominant. Basically, exceeding expectations garners favorable attention and makes people want to reward the player. That is how they lead to more MVP votes.

]]> By: Max http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/brandon-knight-falls-to-no-12-in-redone-draft-pistons-pick-marshon-brooks/comment-page-1/#comment-60649 Max Fri, 23 Mar 2012 05:14:53 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/brandon-knight-falls-to-no-12-in-redone-draft-pistons-pick-marshon-brooks/#comment-60649 What have expectations to do with winning MVP? The only expectation was that LBJ was not going to win no matter how much better he was than anyone else.  Combine that with the notion that we have somehow arrived at a historical epoch where the MVP must be selected from one of the top 2 seeds in either conference no matter how much better someone playing on a 3 or 4 seed is like Dwight Howard.  Sure, Durant is much better than Rose, but he has Westbrook.  Rose isn't a good defender?  Nash was a terrible defender and he won twice in a row. Who cares about defense?  Who cares that the Bulls are a great defensive team whose defensive numbers improve when Rose is off the floor?   Rose's win was a hype job, through and through but it's not that big a deal because his win was just one in a series of travesties that have destroyed the meaning of the award for me at least. What have expectations to do with winning MVP?

The only expectation was that LBJ was not going to win no matter how much better he was than anyone else.  Combine that with the notion that we have somehow arrived at a historical epoch where the MVP must be selected from one of the top 2 seeds in either conference no matter how much better someone playing on a 3 or 4 seed is like Dwight Howard.  Sure, Durant is much better than Rose, but he has Westbrook.  Rose isn’t a good defender?  Nash was a terrible defender and he won twice in a row.
Who cares about defense?  Who cares that the Bulls are a great defensive team whose defensive numbers improve when Rose is off the floor?  

Rose’s win was a hype job, through and through but it’s not that big a deal because his win was just one in a series of travesties that have destroyed the meaning of the award for me at least.

]]> By: Max http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/brandon-knight-falls-to-no-12-in-redone-draft-pistons-pick-marshon-brooks/comment-page-1/#comment-60647 Max Fri, 23 Mar 2012 05:06:42 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/brandon-knight-falls-to-no-12-in-redone-draft-pistons-pick-marshon-brooks/#comment-60647 And you are wrong about Simmons too. And you are wrong about Simmons too.

]]> By: Max http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/brandon-knight-falls-to-no-12-in-redone-draft-pistons-pick-marshon-brooks/comment-page-1/#comment-60646 Max Fri, 23 Mar 2012 05:05:57 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/brandon-knight-falls-to-no-12-in-redone-draft-pistons-pick-marshon-brooks/#comment-60646 There are fewer teams that you can count on one hand that can demonstrate the bias with as many examples as the Pistons can and in my mind, no team, and I am fairly familiar with all of their histories. There are fewer teams that you can count on one hand that can demonstrate the bias with as many examples as the Pistons can and in my mind, no team, and I am fairly familiar with all of their histories.

]]> By: RationalSportsFan http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/brandon-knight-falls-to-no-12-in-redone-draft-pistons-pick-marshon-brooks/comment-page-1/#comment-60638 RationalSportsFan Fri, 23 Mar 2012 03:14:49 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/brandon-knight-falls-to-no-12-in-redone-draft-pistons-pick-marshon-brooks/#comment-60638 You realize basically every team except the Celtics can say the same thing about Simmons, right?  I honestly can't believe you really defended your "the national media hates the Pistons" viewpoint so much.  Downright silly.  There are fans of 29 other teams who say the same thing. You realize basically every team except the Celtics can say the same thing about Simmons, right?  I honestly can’t believe you really defended your “the national media hates the Pistons” viewpoint so much.  Downright silly.  There are fans of 29 other teams who say the same thing.

]]> By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/brandon-knight-falls-to-no-12-in-redone-draft-pistons-pick-marshon-brooks/comment-page-1/#comment-60622 tarsier Fri, 23 Mar 2012 00:38:27 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/brandon-knight-falls-to-no-12-in-redone-draft-pistons-pick-marshon-brooks/#comment-60622 Wrong, Rose won because of the Bulls record and his stats (otherwise why not Taj Gibson?). But most importantly, Rose won because both he and his team massively exceeded expectations. Wrong, Rose won because of the Bulls record and his stats (otherwise why not Taj Gibson?). But most importantly, Rose won because both he and his team massively exceeded expectations.

]]> By: Max http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/brandon-knight-falls-to-no-12-in-redone-draft-pistons-pick-marshon-brooks/comment-page-1/#comment-60618 Max Fri, 23 Mar 2012 00:20:41 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/brandon-knight-falls-to-no-12-in-redone-draft-pistons-pick-marshon-brooks/#comment-60618 Rose won because of Chicago's record and not his stats.  Isiah could have won during any year the Pistons had close to the best record. Rose won because of Chicago’s record and not his stats.  Isiah could have won during any year the Pistons had close to the best record.

]]> By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/brandon-knight-falls-to-no-12-in-redone-draft-pistons-pick-marshon-brooks/comment-page-1/#comment-60617 tarsier Fri, 23 Mar 2012 00:10:28 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/brandon-knight-falls-to-no-12-in-redone-draft-pistons-pick-marshon-brooks/#comment-60617 Yeah, ESPN fantasy uses slightly different categories and standard formats than Yahoo, which is what I play. Now, even in those, Knight is more than 50% owned. But that is because of stupid managers. There are always better options available. But people hang onto him because of his counting numbers and forget his efficiency. I don't know what Knight's ranking is in ESPN. And either way, fantasy rank isn't the point. Because that is where getting more minutes really goes a long way. But the point is that Knight has a lot of potential but his play is hardly stellar yet. About the MVP thing, yeah, and Rose won when James was in his prime. Sometimes, a guy gets lucky and catches the favorite's off-year. Or the year that the media is sick of giving him MVP. But no, timing is not a bad argument. Wanna know why? Because what year should he have been a serious MVP candidate? His best statistical seasons were 1983-87. Only won of those years did Detroit even crack 50 wins. And just barely then. Yeah, ESPN fantasy uses slightly different categories and standard formats than Yahoo, which is what I play. Now, even in those, Knight is more than 50% owned. But that is because of stupid managers. There are always better options available. But people hang onto him because of his counting numbers and forget his efficiency.

I don’t know what Knight’s ranking is in ESPN. And either way, fantasy rank isn’t the point. Because that is where getting more minutes really goes a long way. But the point is that Knight has a lot of potential but his play is hardly stellar yet.

About the MVP thing, yeah, and Rose won when James was in his prime. Sometimes, a guy gets lucky and catches the favorite’s off-year. Or the year that the media is sick of giving him MVP. But no, timing is not a bad argument. Wanna know why? Because what year should he have been a serious MVP candidate? His best statistical seasons were 1983-87. Only won of those years did Detroit even crack 50 wins. And just barely then.

]]> By: Max http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/brandon-knight-falls-to-no-12-in-redone-draft-pistons-pick-marshon-brooks/comment-page-1/#comment-60606 Max Thu, 22 Mar 2012 23:28:57 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/brandon-knight-falls-to-no-12-in-redone-draft-pistons-pick-marshon-brooks/#comment-60606 The MVP itself is a yearly hype job that depends little on who the actual best player is.  Bad timing is not a good argument. The MVP itself is a yearly hype job that depends little on who the actual best player is.  Bad timing is not a good argument.

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