Comments on: Ben Wallace and the art of the well-timed flop http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/ben-wallace-and-the-art-of-the-well-timed-flop/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Thu, 20 Jun 2013 02:43:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: swish22 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/ben-wallace-and-the-art-of-the-well-timed-flop/comment-page-1/#comment-60307 swish22 Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:45:09 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9510#comment-60307 It seems like it's usually the better defenders that are the best defensive floppers.  They are determined to get stops!!   Doesn't matter how.  Defense wins championships!  Frank still plays Ben because he knows what to expect.  110% commitment to the team concept!  Back to Macklin,   Seems like  listening to his interviews he is headed in the right direction because of influences like Ben Wallace.  Ben should be kept as an assistant in the Pistons organization.   It seems like it’s usually the better defenders that are the best defensive floppers.  They are determined to get stops!!   Doesn’t matter how.  Defense wins championships!  Frank still plays Ben because he knows what to expect.  110% commitment to the team concept! 

Back to Macklin,   Seems like  listening to his interviews he is headed in the right direction because of influences like Ben Wallace.  Ben should be kept as an assistant in the Pistons organization.  

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/ben-wallace-and-the-art-of-the-well-timed-flop/comment-page-1/#comment-60251 Patrick Hayes Wed, 21 Mar 2012 03:20:14 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9510#comment-60251 <p>John just trolling man. He's not interested in your rational dialogue.</p> John just trolling man. He’s not interested in your rational dialogue.

]]> By: gmehl http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/ben-wallace-and-the-art-of-the-well-timed-flop/comment-page-1/#comment-60250 gmehl Wed, 21 Mar 2012 03:18:30 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9510#comment-60250 @John What you are missing is the way Ben Wallace does it and most others do. Ben when he takes a charge sells it when there is a fair amount of contact there. Its not like he does it when a 5'11 point guard runs into him. If you are in position and a guy makes contact with you then i think you are well within your own rights as a defender to a certain degree to accentuate it so the referees see it. I am not saying do a Varejao type flop and moan but rather get in position and let the guy make contact. @John
What you are missing is the way Ben Wallace does it and most others do. Ben when he takes a charge sells it when there is a fair amount of contact there. Its not like he does it when a 5’11 point guard runs into him. If you are in position and a guy makes contact with you then i think you are well within your own rights as a defender to a certain degree to accentuate it so the referees see it. I am not saying do a Varejao type flop and moan but rather get in position and let the guy make contact.

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/ben-wallace-and-the-art-of-the-well-timed-flop/comment-page-1/#comment-60246 Patrick Hayes Wed, 21 Mar 2012 02:37:33 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9510#comment-60246 <p>Says the guy who is reading and commenting on a NBA site.</p> Says the guy who is reading and commenting on a NBA site.

]]> By: John http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/ben-wallace-and-the-art-of-the-well-timed-flop/comment-page-1/#comment-60245 John Wed, 21 Mar 2012 02:30:29 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9510#comment-60245 The fact that you love flops shows that you are a moron. It is what is in part wrong with the NBA, along with entitled athletes, no hard salary cap, inmates running the asylum, an assinine commissioner, a system that rewards star players, and the list goes on.  So stupid. The fact that you love flops shows that you are a moron. It is what is in part wrong with the NBA, along with entitled athletes, no hard salary cap, inmates running the asylum, an assinine commissioner, a system that rewards star players, and the list goes on.  So stupid.

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/ben-wallace-and-the-art-of-the-well-timed-flop/comment-page-1/#comment-60242 Patrick Hayes Wed, 21 Mar 2012 01:58:26 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9510#comment-60242 <p>I think every savvy, smart player flops and at the same time ridicules others for flopping.</p> <p>Both Wallaces were great at throwing their body around to get calls on defense and Billups has always been a master at selling contact that may or may not have been there on offense.</p> <p>It's a skill, not necessarily one that anyone wants to fess up to having, but a skill nonetheless.</p> I think every savvy, smart player flops and at the same time ridicules others for flopping.

Both Wallaces were great at throwing their body around to get calls on defense and Billups has always been a master at selling contact that may or may not have been there on offense.

It’s a skill, not necessarily one that anyone wants to fess up to having, but a skill nonetheless.

]]> By: andyf http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/ben-wallace-and-the-art-of-the-well-timed-flop/comment-page-1/#comment-60241 andyf Wed, 21 Mar 2012 01:55:36 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9510#comment-60241 I dont get it.   I've always admired Ben Wallace, but it seems strange to admire his ability to flop.   Sheed always sneered on floppers "all them cats are floppin"...and piston fans regularly spoke with derision with varejao's flopping when we faced the cavs.  Dont see how it can go both ways I dont get it.   I’ve always admired Ben Wallace, but it seems strange to admire his ability to flop.   Sheed always sneered on floppers “all them cats are floppin”…and piston fans regularly spoke with derision with varejao’s flopping when we faced the cavs.  Dont see how it can go both ways

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/ben-wallace-and-the-art-of-the-well-timed-flop/comment-page-1/#comment-60218 Patrick Hayes Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:47:16 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9510#comment-60218 <p>Oddly, this and one of my other favorite Ben interview clips both came from when he was in Cleveland. The other was when someone asked him about Kevin Garnett's whole fake tough guy thing/only picking on smaller/weaker players and Ben just said, "All I know is KG don't say nothin to me."</p> Oddly, this and one of my other favorite Ben interview clips both came from when he was in Cleveland. The other was when someone asked him about Kevin Garnett’s whole fake tough guy thing/only picking on smaller/weaker players and Ben just said, “All I know is KG don’t say nothin to me.”

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/ben-wallace-and-the-art-of-the-well-timed-flop/comment-page-1/#comment-60217 Patrick Hayes Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:46:03 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9510#comment-60217 <p>Might be my favorite NBA play of all-time. Love how confused the ref looked ... he finally blew his whistle, but it was a good two or three seconds before he even knew what he should call there.</p> Might be my favorite NBA play of all-time. Love how confused the ref looked … he finally blew his whistle, but it was a good two or three seconds before he even knew what he should call there.

]]> By: Chris H http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/03/ben-wallace-and-the-art-of-the-well-timed-flop/comment-page-1/#comment-60212 Chris H Tue, 20 Mar 2012 22:49:59 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9510#comment-60212 I love the simul-flop.  Seriously the ref must have blown the whistle in sheer amazement. I love the simul-flop.  Seriously the ref must have blown the whistle in sheer amazement.

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