Comments on: Should the Pistons trade Brandon Knight? http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/should-the-pistons-trade-brandon-knight/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Thu, 20 Jun 2013 01:53:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Chris http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/should-the-pistons-trade-brandon-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-55574 Chris Sun, 04 Mar 2012 01:19:12 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/should-the-pistons-trade-brandon-knight/#comment-55574 Mike Payne and his cronies at Detroit Bad Boys will now accuse you of wanting to keep Knight, Stuckey, and Gordon and act like you said they should all be in the HOF Mike Payne and his cronies at Detroit Bad Boys will now accuse you of wanting to keep Knight, Stuckey, and Gordon and act like you said they should all be in the HOF

]]> By: Chris http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/should-the-pistons-trade-brandon-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-55573 Chris Sun, 04 Mar 2012 01:17:36 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/should-the-pistons-trade-brandon-knight/#comment-55573 don't worry, on Payne's blog, he's extremely negative. If you say anything good about any of the players besides Monroe or Jerebko, him and his cronies on the blog will be all over you accusing you of saying that you think Knight, Gordon, or Stuckey should be in the hall of fame. If you mention that they're playing well, they tell you "What? You think he should be in the hall of fame??" If Knight hits a 3, they comment on how he doesn't have any assists instead of just saying it was a nice 3 pointer...haven't been to the blog in a few weeks, their crap gets really old and I hope PistonPowered stops giving him attention. Worst blogger ever. don’t worry, on Payne’s blog, he’s extremely negative. If you say anything good about any of the players besides Monroe or Jerebko, him and his cronies on the blog will be all over you accusing you of saying that you think Knight, Gordon, or Stuckey should be in the hall of fame. If you mention that they’re playing well, they tell you “What? You think he should be in the hall of fame??” If Knight hits a 3, they comment on how he doesn’t have any assists instead of just saying it was a nice 3 pointer…haven’t been to the blog in a few weeks, their crap gets really old and I hope PistonPowered stops giving him attention. Worst blogger ever.

]]> By: Chris http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/should-the-pistons-trade-brandon-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-55564 Chris Sun, 04 Mar 2012 01:08:41 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/should-the-pistons-trade-brandon-knight/#comment-55564 Knight IS a building block though...so you might as well keep him. Knight IS a building block though…so you might as well keep him.

]]> By: Youssif http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/should-the-pistons-trade-brandon-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-54246 Youssif Tue, 28 Feb 2012 23:06:45 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/should-the-pistons-trade-brandon-knight/#comment-54246 I'd support it if we dump BG or CV's contract (thus saving the amnesty for the other guy) in the process and get a solid player or draft pick back. I’d support it if we dump BG or CV’s contract (thus saving the amnesty for the other guy) in the process and get a solid player or draft pick back.

]]> By: Laser http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/should-the-pistons-trade-brandon-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-53951 Laser Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:41:52 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/should-the-pistons-trade-brandon-knight/#comment-53951 to the last two slow commenters: nobody is saying the pistons should dump this guy. but he's one of the few players on this team who has any value at all, and we have much more depth at guard than down low. it makes a ;ot of sense to try and trade him for a player or pick who could help us up front. to the last two slow commenters: nobody is saying the pistons should dump this guy. but he’s one of the few players on this team who has any value at all, and we have much more depth at guard than down low. it makes a ;ot of sense to try and trade him for a player or pick who could help us up front.

]]> By: Al http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/should-the-pistons-trade-brandon-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-53928 Al Mon, 27 Feb 2012 20:40:18 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/should-the-pistons-trade-brandon-knight/#comment-53928 Please dont even suggest that notion, if I have to watch another player that we draft blossom for anther team i will go freakin crazy!!!!! Last being I guess Affalo!! Gosh he is light years ahead of Gordon inconsistent play he's gave us for.... well lets not even go there. It's time to just hang with who we have in our new core Daye included, even with his struggles lately. Stop abandoning the future for bad contracts on old bones and knees for one year of glory!! Please dont even suggest that notion, if I have to watch another player that we draft blossom for anther team i will go freakin crazy!!!!! Last being I guess Affalo!! Gosh he is light years ahead of Gordon inconsistent play he’s gave us for…. well lets not even go there. It’s time to just hang with who we have in our new core Daye included, even with his struggles lately. Stop abandoning the future for bad contracts on old bones and knees for one year of glory!!

]]> By: Murph http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/should-the-pistons-trade-brandon-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-53894 Murph Mon, 27 Feb 2012 18:33:15 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/should-the-pistons-trade-brandon-knight/#comment-53894 Hmmmm...  I certainly favored the Pistons drafting Walker over Knight (the jury's still out), and I've been disappointed with Knight's passing and turnovers so far in his young career. That said, the kid does show a great deal of potential.  He has poise and toughness.  He has a sweet jump shot that will get better.  He has a high basketball IQ, and he has a good attitude and seems open to learning and coaching. I agree with the comparisons to Chancey Billups early in his career.  Knight may never become a pure PG, like a Ricky Rubio.  However, IMO, he has the skills and leadeship qualities to eventually develop into a Billups type floor general. Trading the kid would be a big mistake. Hmmmm…  I certainly favored the Pistons drafting Walker over Knight (the jury’s still out), and I’ve been disappointed with Knight’s passing and turnovers so far in his young career.

That said, the kid does show a great deal of potential.  He has poise and toughness.  He has a sweet jump shot that will get better.  He has a high basketball IQ, and he has a good attitude and seems open to learning and coaching.

I agree with the comparisons to Chancey Billups early in his career.  Knight may never become a pure PG, like a Ricky Rubio.  However, IMO, he has the skills and leadeship qualities to eventually develop into a Billups type floor general.

Trading the kid would be a big mistake.

]]> By: Rich http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/should-the-pistons-trade-brandon-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-53716 Rich Sun, 26 Feb 2012 23:21:09 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/should-the-pistons-trade-brandon-knight/#comment-53716 This is soooo stupid and rediculous! Why would we trade B Knight????? Why draft him if we trade him? Hes good and is developing nicely!  I think we should keep Knight, Stucket and Monroe and dump the rest! Knight-PG, Stuckey-SG, Monroe can play either PF or C. We need another scorer and another good talented Big man. A big man that can bang the boards and block shots and score. A Anthony Davis would be great! But doubt we will get him. But I like Prices leadership but hes getting older. So if we keep Knight, Stuckey and Monroe and draft or sign a free agent and get a PF/C and SF. Get a Scorer and anotehr bench guy that can score good This is soooo stupid and rediculous! Why would we trade B Knight????? Why draft him if we trade him? Hes good and is developing nicely!  I think we should keep Knight, Stucket and Monroe and dump the rest! Knight-PG, Stuckey-SG, Monroe can play either PF or C. We need another scorer and another good talented Big man. A big man that can bang the boards and block shots and score. A Anthony Davis would be great! But doubt we will get him. But I like Prices leadership but hes getting older. So if we keep Knight, Stuckey and Monroe and draft or sign a free agent and get a PF/C and SF. Get a Scorer and anotehr bench guy that can score good

]]> By: Truett http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/should-the-pistons-trade-brandon-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-53614 Truett Sun, 26 Feb 2012 09:17:55 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/should-the-pistons-trade-brandon-knight/#comment-53614 The Hawks are 9th in the league in ast/g (pistons are 25th, The Clippers with Paul, Billups and Williams are 11th). In his third season Jeff Teague leads the hawks averaging 4.4 ast/g. In his first season he averaged 2.5/g. Following your logic, the Hawks must stink and Jeff Teague will never be a pg, yet they are in the playoffs, in the top third in assists/g and doing all that without All-Star All Horford. I think it is a faulty notion to believe that your pg needs to have all of the assists on your team. Any player can get an assist if the ball is moving. most point guards get their assists by penetrating and then kicking out to an open jump shooter, or running a pick and roll with a big man who can finish with authority. aside from Gordon, Knight is the Piston's second best jump shooter and he cant really get assists from his own shot. As much as I love Monroe, he is more fineness than power. Basically, what I am getting at is that the Pistons are not built to be a team where PGs can rack up a bunch of Assists. Knight is one of the youngest players in the league, he is one year removed from HS and he has not had the benefit of preseason. Even assuming that none of that stuff matters, your method of comparing him based on assist number of PGs is deeply flawed because all of those numbers were from THE END OF AN 82 GAME SEASON. What happens if Knight averages just 0.8 ast/g more by the end of the season? Would you have to conclude that he is going to be better than, Ty lawson, Rajon Rondo, Chauncey Billups, Kyle Lowery, Mike Conely, Jameer Nelson, Jrue Holiday, and of course Steve Nash? I think that would be a little silly. Knight's game is not without warts though, He needs to work on his handle a lot, put on some muscle and learn to take better angles going through the lane. He is definitely not Chris paul, or Derrick Rose, or Deron Williams, or Rus Westbrook. You are correct in that he is a project too, but guess what you get when you draft a project? A cheap extension in a few years...ZING! The Hawks are 9th in the league in ast/g (pistons are 25th, The Clippers with Paul, Billups and Williams are 11th). In his third season Jeff Teague leads the hawks averaging 4.4 ast/g. In his first season he averaged 2.5/g. Following your logic, the Hawks must stink and Jeff Teague will never be a pg, yet they are in the playoffs, in the top third in assists/g and doing all that without All-Star All Horford.

I think it is a faulty notion to believe that your pg needs to have all of the assists on your team. Any player can get an assist if the ball is moving. most point guards get their assists by penetrating and then kicking out to an open jump shooter, or running a pick and roll with a big man who can finish with authority. aside from Gordon, Knight is the Piston’s second best jump shooter and he cant really get assists from his own shot. As much as I love Monroe, he is more fineness than power. Basically, what I am getting at is that the Pistons are not built to be a team where PGs can rack up a bunch of Assists.

Knight is one of the youngest players in the league, he is one year removed from HS and he has not had the benefit of preseason. Even assuming that none of that stuff matters, your method of comparing him based on assist number of PGs is deeply flawed because all of those numbers were from THE END OF AN 82 GAME SEASON. What happens if Knight averages just 0.8 ast/g more by the end of the season? Would you have to conclude that he is going to be better than, Ty lawson, Rajon Rondo, Chauncey Billups, Kyle Lowery, Mike Conely, Jameer Nelson, Jrue Holiday, and of course Steve Nash? I think that would be a little silly.

Knight’s game is not without warts though, He needs to work on his handle a lot, put on some muscle and learn to take better angles going through the lane. He is definitely not Chris paul, or Derrick Rose, or Deron Williams, or Rus Westbrook. You are correct in that he is a project too, but guess what you get when you draft a project? A cheap extension in a few years…ZING!

]]> By: Mike Payne http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/should-the-pistons-trade-brandon-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-53582 Mike Payne Sun, 26 Feb 2012 06:30:51 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/should-the-pistons-trade-brandon-knight/#comment-53582 "misses is that Knight taking time to develop might actually help the Pistons."   One point I didn't stress enough is that the likelihood of Knight developing a passing game is slim at best.  To further explain my personal opinion, I think Brandon Knight isn't going to get there and I honestly think he should be traded now while other GMs believe he has value as a starter.  If Detroit is somehow (and foolishly, I might add) hoping it takes Knight 4 years to develop a style of play he hasn't shown any evidence of having, I'm calling BS.   So if the Pistons are hoping to hit lottery money for the next several years to field a team that is ready for the big time when Knight figures it all out, what the hell happens if he doesn't?  The greatest barrier in the way of this scenario is history for a player of his manner.   "and once (if) he’s ready to contribute, ideally, the Pistons would then have enough talent to contend."   Logical leapfrog is junk science.  Somehow, you have just suggested that Brandon Knight could present contender quality talent.  And the Pistons should not trade him because he might not suck in four years when he's all of a sudden a contender-level point guard.   Maybe we should fast-forward to extension paperwork? “misses is that Knight taking time to develop might actually help the Pistons.”
 
One point I didn’t stress enough is that the likelihood of Knight developing a passing game is slim at best.  To further explain my personal opinion, I think Brandon Knight isn’t going to get there and I honestly think he should be traded now while other GMs believe he has value as a starter.  If Detroit is somehow (and foolishly, I might add) hoping it takes Knight 4 years to develop a style of play he hasn’t shown any evidence of having, I’m calling BS.
 
So if the Pistons are hoping to hit lottery money for the next several years to field a team that is ready for the big time when Knight figures it all out, what the hell happens if he doesn’t?  The greatest barrier in the way of this scenario is history for a player of his manner.
 
“and once (if) he’s ready to contribute, ideally, the Pistons would then have enough talent to contend.”
 
Logical leapfrog is junk science.  Somehow, you have just suggested that Brandon Knight could present contender quality talent.  And the Pistons should not trade him because he might not suck in four years when he’s all of a sudden a contender-level point guard.
 
Maybe we should fast-forward to extension paperwork?

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