Comments on: Rodney Stuckey continues stellar play in win over Celtics

By: Max

Max — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 02:56:58 +0000

@Frankie The Pistons are not as limited as you are in their ability to both evaluate whether Macklin can contribute and whether he will be able to contribute. Playing time in NBA games is just one standard of many and I don’t know why you are so focused on it when you have said how you watch summer league games etc in the past. Further, I don’t know of any situations throughout the league that go according to your prescription so what you are suggesting is way outside the box. Where are younger players just given time over older players who are quite obviously their superior?
You think they should keep playing Daye no matter how badly he plays? Might not this not totally destroy his confidence rather than stabilize it? Won’t this expose him and make his trade value even worse than if he was a 6-11 mystery man? Won’t this send the wrong message to everyone else on the team? Might it not kill his incentive to get better? And finally, might it not be that his days of being a good contributor are still years ahead?
Lin was not on the Pistons radar as Frank said because of their depth. Walker Russell was an emergency add due to injuries and Lin was added to due to a combination of a hole at point guard in general for the Knicks and a rash of injuries.

By: Max

Max — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 02:42:40 +0000

Bismack was drafted first so he wasn’t an option anyway.

By: Max

Max — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 02:34:22 +0000

http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm
Top 30 salaries listed on link. No Gordon. No Pistons. Gordon is not making superstar money.

By: apa8ren9

apa8ren9 — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:39:33 +0000

I think you are off base on this one frankie. You have been to the lottery twice already and you think that you have hit with Monroe and Knight. Those extra wins are more valuable to the development of your current players than the value of the extra ping pong balls. I think that everyone said that this is going to be a quality draft. Just like the last two drafts you pick the right guy when its your turn. Thats it. Dumars cant get credit for the last 2 guys he drafted by some people. Why do they want us sacrifice the wins, complain about how bad we are and then HOPE (not a guarantee) HOPE that we get a top 3 pick. That’s not a strategy/philosophy that people get paid millions to implement. Now to your point, what Frank is doing is absolutely right. No matter who gets put in there they should perform. He put Bynum in for a few minutes and what did he do – he played well. Well you know what then Russell will sit as long as Bynum plays well. He did the same for Daye. Daye played well for a few games then fell off the cliff again. So you know what he has to do- BE READY. You cant sacrifice potential wins because we need to see what macklin can do. You know where Macklin will play? I will be seeing him play during the summer league in Vegas. Then you will see if he can play.

By: yabbadetroit16

yabbadetroit16 — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:00:21 +0000

stuckey and knight are the future of this team

so is monroe

By: vic

vic — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 20:12:30 +0000

yes that’s a good point too, very true.
but they are really playing better, and like you said Lawrence Frank has made some good decisions too.

Cutting the rotation down.
Putting Max as starter.
Letting them run more and have more freedom.

Really all we need to do is get someone defensively bigger and better than Maxiell through the draft or a trade, and we’re on our way.

By: vic

vic — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:44:55 +0000

Bismack almost had a triple double with blocks the other night. (or maybe he actually got the double double).
The guy they compare him to, Ibaka actually did.

The other guy I wanted if we had gotten Biyombo – Isaiah Thomas – just had a near triple double too last night. He’s a defensive liability but with Biyombo protecting the paint it would have maximized his value. He was the absolute last player picked in the draft. He’s the Kings best PG even though they drafted Jimmer in round 1 and have Tyreke Evans.

Don’t mean to toot my own horn but Joe D should hire me:-D lol

By: frankie d

frankie d — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:41:10 +0000

what is the team’s mission?
is it to muddle through and stay in mid-lottery hell for the next 3-5 years?
or is it to build for the future?
any coach is always going to try to win every game he can. it’s their nature.
but the idea that the team will somehow be better next year because they win 5 more games is shown to be false, repeatedly.
is the team better now because tmac helped them go 30-52 instead of 25-57?
will the team be worse off if it goes 15-51 as opposed to 25-41?
i’d argue that getting a lower draft position and a better player will have a much more powerful impact than whatever psychological benefit that accrues because the team wins 10 more games. in fact, i doubt that any positive benefit attaches because the team wins 25 as opposed to 15 games.
there will be a big difference, however, if the team is able to draft a davis or drummond or kidd-gilchrist or robinson, and that will result in more wins long term.
additionally, what happens at the end of this year after watching daye and macklin watch games from the bench?
after this year, what do you know about macklin? can he play? will you need to bring in a young player to do some of the things he might be able to do? daye?
its the same old series of questions that have been asked for the last few years. it is remarkable that the team is still trying to figure out how to navigate those questions.

By: vic

vic — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:37:24 +0000

thats a really good point. We should be happy for winning and improvement, look at what Lebron did to Cleveland. They drafted the best player ever in the draft, but had a losing culture and bad management.
Winning is best.

By: frankie d

frankie d — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:31:36 +0000

i’ve changed my mind on the amnesty issue.
initially, i’d thought that CV should be the guy amnestied.
BG can play – even though he is overpaid – while CV is a stiff.
now, i think that using amnesty on BG is probably the thing to do. it will be a travesty when he starts making 13 million in a couple of years. you can find guys making a third of that amount who give you more. what does gordon do that boobie gibson doesn’t do? and gibson makes about 4 million per.
so gordon’s deal is so bad, it is worth getting rid of a good player.
CV’s deal is bad also. but it isn’t quite as bad as BG’s. and he may have a bit of trade value. if he’s healthy, a contender can always use a big guy who can come in and shoot from the 3 point range. guys like him, even overpaid, one-dimensional ones, always have some value. look at how long a guy like tim thomas hung around stealing money.
and, CV will have only one more guaranteed year, at 8 million, with another year at the team’s option.
he’s got a bad deal, yes, but a deal that can be worked.
so, yea, go ahead and amnesty BG, let bynum play his minutes and trade CV.
unfortunately, because joe invested so much in both, it’s unlikely that he will do so.