Comments on: Pistons can’t keep Alonzo Gee off the offensive glass in loss to Cleveland http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/pistons-cant-keep-alonzo-gee-off-the-offensive-glass-in-loss-to-cleveland/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Thu, 23 May 2013 20:01:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/pistons-cant-keep-alonzo-gee-off-the-offensive-glass-in-loss-to-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-52821 Patrick Hayes Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:35:58 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9105#comment-52821 <p>Boom, is this screen name number five?</p> <p>No man, you aren't a troll because you disagree with me. Some very smart commenters disagree with me frequently and raise good points down here.</p> <p>You are a troll because you have registered multiple screen names that you comment from. Only insane people do things like that. It's really a ban-able offense on most sites, but I find the sheer number of names you've created to be highly entertaining, so I let it go. You are also a troll because the next time you raise a valid, lucid, well-reasoned argument will be the first time.</p> Boom, is this screen name number five?

No man, you aren’t a troll because you disagree with me. Some very smart commenters disagree with me frequently and raise good points down here.

You are a troll because you have registered multiple screen names that you comment from. Only insane people do things like that. It’s really a ban-able offense on most sites, but I find the sheer number of names you’ve created to be highly entertaining, so I let it go. You are also a troll because the next time you raise a valid, lucid, well-reasoned argument will be the first time.

]]> By: robert kagiso http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/pistons-cant-keep-alonzo-gee-off-the-offensive-glass-in-loss-to-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-52760 robert kagiso Thu, 23 Feb 2012 05:02:57 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9105#comment-52760 Aha Patrick, sorry to hear when people disagree with you, they get labeled as trolls ... At any rate, you are forgetting that it is not just that Stuckey doesn’t have to be over-burdened at PG ... .but also that he gets to play with a REAL PG .. abeit .. a very young and inexperienced one, and so do the rest of Pistons… Other players have more than once commented on how good it feels to have a real PG again on the team.  It is not sufficient for you to simply say, well, I think Stuckey is probably an unreliable NBA player no matter where he plays, for several reasons. First, the rest of the team will suffer, and it has, with the position of PG being a complete mess for 3 seasons.  Secondly, could not the Pistons at least TRY to put Stuckey back where he started out so strongly at SG?  You would think that, fact 1, RS plays well at SG, and then fact 2, RS doesn’t play well at PG, would lead to this conclusion:  PUT RS back at SG with a good PG and lets see if that works! But not in your mind, .. nope .. absolutely not going to be considered.   So we are supposed to wait forever until Piston journalists like you came out and simply say the truth that Stuckey should not be playing PG? ..... It has been 3 years and you still won’t do that and your reasoning is because you just wonder whether Stuckey is even a reliable NBA player period. Why does such a process take 3 seasons? Could it be that Joe Dumars was simply being stubborn about validating his mistakes of (1) picking Darko,  and (2) trading Billups away for poison AI?  If Stuckey could become a good PG then both those mistakes (Darko traded for the pick that got us Stuckey), then all is well and Joe D looks good.  So when it was apparent that Stuck just couldn’t hack it at PG, somewhere along the line during that 3 years time span,  where were you, the Piston analyst suggesting maybe the Pistons should be drafting PGs like Ty Lawson instead of SF / SG 6-11 Austin Daye?  But oh wait a minute.. Stuckey is our PG! We don’t need to draft any more PGs!  Joe Dumars said so and he is going to run this difficult transition into the ground because he wants to vindicate past dumb decisions.  And that is where sports writers such as yourself fail their profession and even the team they cover when they refuse to make the simple call simply because they are afraid of biting the hand that feeds them, Joe Dumars and the Detroit Pistons, and so they never have the guts to state the truth. If you and other Detroit Piston writers could do this more often, maybe Joe Dumars would not be just starting to come out his GM stupor in trying to make up for making such terribly dumb decisions in the first place.  And for the record, I do not think you can rule out the possibility that 3 seasons of Stuckey NOT getting NBA experience at his natural position (SG), while being forced into a difficult one (PG),  has indeed hurt his confidence, attitude, and progress as an NBA player.  So it was all a big waste and these days RS is somewhat like his teammate rookie Brandon Knight, learning on a game basis just how to get settled into playing his natural position well in the NBA. Aha Patrick, sorry to hear when people disagree with you, they get labeled as trolls … At any rate, you are forgetting that it is not just that Stuckey doesn’t have to be over-burdened at PG … .but also that he gets to play with a REAL PG .. abeit .. a very young and inexperienced one, and so do the rest of Pistons… Other players have more than once commented on how good it feels to have a real PG again on the team.  It is not sufficient for you to simply say, well, I think Stuckey is probably an unreliable NBA player no matter where he plays, for several reasons. First, the rest of the team will suffer, and it has, with the position of PG being a complete mess for 3 seasons.  Secondly, could not the Pistons at least TRY to put Stuckey back where he started out so strongly at SG?  You would think that, fact 1, RS plays well at SG, and then fact 2, RS doesn’t play well at PG, would lead to this conclusion:  PUT RS back at SG with a good PG and lets see if that works! But not in your mind, .. nope .. absolutely not going to be considered.   So we are supposed to wait forever until Piston journalists like you came out and simply say the truth that Stuckey should not be playing PG? ….. It has been 3 years and you still won’t do that and your reasoning is because you just wonder whether Stuckey is even a reliable NBA player period. Why does such a process take 3 seasons? Could it be that Joe Dumars was simply being stubborn about validating his mistakes of (1) picking Darko,  and (2) trading Billups away for poison AI?  If Stuckey could become a good PG then both those mistakes (Darko traded for the pick that got us Stuckey), then all is well and Joe D looks good.  So when it was apparent that Stuck just couldn’t hack it at PG, somewhere along the line during that 3 years time span,  where were you, the Piston analyst suggesting maybe the Pistons should be drafting PGs like Ty Lawson instead of SF / SG 6-11 Austin Daye?  But oh wait a minute.. Stuckey is our PG! We don’t need to draft any more PGs!  Joe Dumars said so and he is going to run this difficult transition into the ground because he wants to vindicate past dumb decisions.  And that is where sports writers such as yourself fail their profession and even the team they cover when they refuse to make the simple call simply because they are afraid of biting the hand that feeds them, Joe Dumars and the Detroit Pistons, and so they never have the guts to state the truth. If you and other Detroit Piston writers could do this more often, maybe Joe Dumars would not be just starting to come out his GM stupor in trying to make up for making such terribly dumb decisions in the first place.  And for the record, I do not think you can rule out the possibility that 3 seasons of Stuckey NOT getting NBA experience at his natural position (SG), while being forced into a difficult one (PG),  has indeed hurt his confidence, attitude, and progress as an NBA player.  So it was all a big waste and these days RS is somewhat like his teammate rookie Brandon Knight, learning on a game basis just how to get settled into playing his natural position well in the NBA.

]]> By: Laser http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/pistons-cant-keep-alonzo-gee-off-the-offensive-glass-in-loss-to-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-52556 Laser Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:16:08 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9105#comment-52556 Are you trying to be taken seriously? Without exception, 100% of teams have "a chance" of getting into the playoffs within the next 3-5. What a meaningless thing to say! The longest you can sign a player is five years, so there could easily be<strong> complete </strong>roster turnover in that time frame. Are you trying to be taken seriously?

Without exception, 100% of teams have “a chance” of getting into the playoffs within the next 3-5. What a meaningless thing to say! The longest you can sign a player is five years, so there could easily be complete roster turnover in that time frame.

]]> By: Casey http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/pistons-cant-keep-alonzo-gee-off-the-offensive-glass-in-loss-to-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-52546 Casey Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:22:17 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9105#comment-52546 They played hard, there were alot of good things. Monroe is good but not dominate, yet. So excited for him. Great core in Knight, Stuckey, JJ, hopefully Daye. Another close game with a loss if you do this all season and get a Davis or Robinson on the team. Cut CV. Another year with Frank. NEXT YEAR KNIGHT_ WILL STUCKEY_BG_DAYE PRINCE_SINGLER_DAYE Robinson or Davis pick _ Max Monroe_MLE They played hard, there were alot of good things. Monroe is good but not dominate, yet. So excited for him. Great core in Knight, Stuckey, JJ, hopefully Daye. Another close game with a loss if you do this all season and get a Davis or Robinson on the team. Cut CV. Another year with Frank.

NEXT YEAR

KNIGHT_ WILL
STUCKEY_BG_DAYE
PRINCE_SINGLER_DAYE
Robinson or Davis pick _ Max
Monroe_MLE

]]> By: Daye and Knight http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/pistons-cant-keep-alonzo-gee-off-the-offensive-glass-in-loss-to-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-52506 Daye and Knight Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:17:51 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9105#comment-52506 Playoff talk was DEFINITELY premature. This team won't make it, not this year...but the Boston Celtics are falling off so there's a chance they get in within the next 3-5 years with a little luck Playoff talk was DEFINITELY premature. This team won’t make it, not this year…but the Boston Celtics are falling off so there’s a chance they get in within the next 3-5 years with a little luck

]]> By: shawn brown http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/pistons-cant-keep-alonzo-gee-off-the-offensive-glass-in-loss-to-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-52503 shawn brown Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:28:43 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9105#comment-52503 i think tayshaun took alot of shots that he didnt need to.  he was a ball stopper on offense all during the game.   has there been a more annoying thorn in the pistons side then "boobie" gibson. does that guy make shots against any other team?   he has built a whole career out of playing well against the pistons.    i believe the pistons would be better off if they dumped the ball down low to monroe a bit more during the 4rth qtr.   hopefully we will see more of that and less tayshaun jumpers.   i think tayshaun took alot of shots that he didnt need to.  he was a ball stopper on offense all during the game.   has there been a more annoying thorn in the pistons side then “boobie” gibson. does that guy make shots against any other team?   he has built a whole career out of playing well against the pistons.    i believe the pistons would be better off if they dumped the ball down low to monroe a bit more during the 4rth qtr.   hopefully we will see more of that and less tayshaun jumpers.  

]]> By: frankie d http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/pistons-cant-keep-alonzo-gee-off-the-offensive-glass-in-loss-to-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-52456 frankie d Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:10:11 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9105#comment-52456 frank has no feel for games and situations and players. tonight was a great example of it. the old vets - ben w. and wilkins - are his security blanket and he tries to ride them as best he can. he has no ability to cultivate talent. for someone who does that routinely, look at the spurs and pop. tonight, against the blazers, he sat duncan and parker and let his young guys play.  they got blown out, but you can bet they will be better off in the long run because he let his young guys play. that attitude is why the spurs are where they are and the pistons are where they are.... frank has no feel for games and situations and players.
tonight was a great example of it.
the old vets – ben w. and wilkins – are his security blanket and he tries to ride them as best he can.
he has no ability to cultivate talent.
for someone who does that routinely, look at the spurs and pop.
tonight, against the blazers, he sat duncan and parker and let his young guys play.  they got blown out, but you can bet they will be better off in the long run because he let his young guys play.
that attitude is why the spurs are where they are and the pistons are where they are….

]]> By: Stuckey and whoever http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/pistons-cant-keep-alonzo-gee-off-the-offensive-glass-in-loss-to-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-52416 Stuckey and whoever Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:45:00 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9105#comment-52416 I missed most of the forth, which maybe was a good thing.  You would think Prince would be able to hang with all 6'6 of Gee, but might have to make a adjustment on that one next time.  No reason we should of lost this one.  The young stones learn yet another lesson.  Now how are they going to bounce back from a game like this?  I missed most of the forth, which maybe was a good thing.  You would think Prince would be able to hang with all 6’6 of Gee, but might have to make a adjustment on that one next time.  No reason we should of lost this one.  The young stones learn yet another lesson.  Now how are they going to bounce back from a game like this? 

]]> By: Wooz http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/pistons-cant-keep-alonzo-gee-off-the-offensive-glass-in-loss-to-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-52415 Wooz Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:44:42 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9105#comment-52415 Typical Cavs-Pistons game. Painful. Monroe had 4 great assists early. Thought they missed a lot of bunnies they were making against the Celtics and Kings. And why so many shots coming up short? Not like they were on a back-to-back. Gordon forced more shots than he had been forcing.  Between Prince's play and Frank's weird rotations, I really felt like they had decided to start tanking some games. Will make the lottery ball folks happy.   Thought the officiating crew was guessing all night too. Typical Cavs-Pistons game. Painful. Monroe had 4 great assists early. Thought they missed a lot of bunnies they were making against the Celtics and Kings. And why so many shots coming up short? Not like they were on a back-to-back. Gordon forced more shots than he had been forcing. 

Between Prince’s play and Frank’s weird rotations, I really felt like they had decided to start tanking some games. Will make the lottery ball folks happy.  

Thought the officiating crew was guessing all night too.

]]> By: Steve K http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/pistons-cant-keep-alonzo-gee-off-the-offensive-glass-in-loss-to-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-52414 Steve K Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:36:54 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=9105#comment-52414 Agree with Jodi on this one. The game seemed in the bag, but somehow it slipped away. Cleveland started bombing threes when it mattered. And the Pistons couldn't box out. Very weird ending to this one... and, like PH said, eerily similar to the Wizards game. The Pistons were in total control and then - blink - they've lost. Agree with Jodi on this one.

The game seemed in the bag, but somehow it slipped away. Cleveland started bombing threes when it mattered. And the Pistons couldn’t box out. Very weird ending to this one… and, like PH said, eerily similar to the Wizards game. The Pistons were in total control and then – blink – they’ve lost.

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