Comments on: Ben Wallace sets games-played record by undrafted player in loss to Wizards http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/ben-wallace-sets-games-played-record-by-undrafted-player-in-loss-to-wizards/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Mon, 20 May 2013 21:20:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Dan Feldman http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/ben-wallace-sets-games-played-record-by-undrafted-player-in-loss-to-wizards/comment-page-1/#comment-50902 Dan Feldman Wed, 15 Feb 2012 08:22:08 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/ben-wallace-sets-games-played-record-by-undrafted-player-in-loss-to-wizards/#comment-50902 <p>Good point. Though, I think it's commonly understood that "undrafted" refers to the amateur (and international pro) draft.</p> Good point. Though, I think it’s commonly understood that “undrafted” refers to the amateur (and international pro) draft.

]]> By: RationalSportsFan http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/ben-wallace-sets-games-played-record-by-undrafted-player-in-loss-to-wizards/comment-page-1/#comment-50779 RationalSportsFan Tue, 14 Feb 2012 18:23:59 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/ben-wallace-sets-games-played-record-by-undrafted-player-in-loss-to-wizards/#comment-50779 Moses Malone was actually drafted twice into the NBA.  Once in the 1975 supplemental draft and once in the ABA dispersal draft. Moses Malone was actually drafted twice into the NBA.  Once in the 1975 supplemental draft and once in the ABA dispersal draft.

]]> By: Jack http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/ben-wallace-sets-games-played-record-by-undrafted-player-in-loss-to-wizards/comment-page-1/#comment-50648 Jack Mon, 13 Feb 2012 22:30:12 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/ben-wallace-sets-games-played-record-by-undrafted-player-in-loss-to-wizards/#comment-50648 I think he has 2 big games this season to get some national attention.. The rookie/sophomore game and the game vs the bucks on espn I think he has 2 big games this season to get some national attention.. The rookie/sophomore game and the game vs the bucks on espn

]]> By: Joe Dumars http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/ben-wallace-sets-games-played-record-by-undrafted-player-in-loss-to-wizards/comment-page-1/#comment-50644 Joe Dumars Mon, 13 Feb 2012 22:04:11 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/ben-wallace-sets-games-played-record-by-undrafted-player-in-loss-to-wizards/#comment-50644 I don't think theres a even a 1% chance Tayshaun gets traded, let alone to LA. Some LA beat writers reported Tay felt it wouldn't be a positive thing to go back and play in LA. It sounds like to me has personally issues back home. No way would Dumars trade him someone he wouldn't want to go. I don’t think theres a even a 1% chance Tayshaun gets traded, let alone to LA. Some LA beat writers reported Tay felt it wouldn’t be a positive thing to go back and play in LA. It sounds like to me has personally issues back home. No way would Dumars trade him someone he wouldn’t want to go.

]]> By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/ben-wallace-sets-games-played-record-by-undrafted-player-in-loss-to-wizards/comment-page-1/#comment-50642 tarsier Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:49:03 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/ben-wallace-sets-games-played-record-by-undrafted-player-in-loss-to-wizards/#comment-50642 Two big problems with the Tay trade. First, we don't know whether Prince holds that much value to the Lakers. Second, who are they gonna end back to make salaries work? I guess the Lakers could use the Odom exception. but they would make damn sure first there are no better options with it. Heck, I'd take the exception and a second rounder for Prince. Alternatively, the most obvious guy to send back would be Walton. But that, of course, won't clear up much cap room until summer of 2013. And if the goal is to make cap room for McGee, I would defintely not trade for him. Make the space and give him an offer. If the Wizards match, then you consider trading for him. Until then, conserve your assets. Part of the reason for trading for him would be so you could sign him even without the cap room. Two big problems with the Tay trade. First, we don’t know whether Prince holds that much value to the Lakers. Second, who are they gonna end back to make salaries work? I guess the Lakers could use the Odom exception. but they would make damn sure first there are no better options with it. Heck, I’d take the exception and a second rounder for Prince. Alternatively, the most obvious guy to send back would be Walton. But that, of course, won’t clear up much cap room until summer of 2013.

And if the goal is to make cap room for McGee, I would defintely not trade for him. Make the space and give him an offer. If the Wizards match, then you consider trading for him. Until then, conserve your assets. Part of the reason for trading for him would be so you could sign him even without the cap room.

]]> By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/ben-wallace-sets-games-played-record-by-undrafted-player-in-loss-to-wizards/comment-page-1/#comment-50641 tarsier Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:27:51 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/ben-wallace-sets-games-played-record-by-undrafted-player-in-loss-to-wizards/#comment-50641 Ok, I just wasn't sure because of your mentioning the Cats being a lock. At best they can be a lock for a 25% shot. And your (B) point has no merit. Needing a pick does not factor into the lottery--unless of course you assume benevolent divine intervention. Stern can be as damned as he wants, he doesn't control the lottery. I guarantee when the Spurs won Duncan and when the Bulls won Rose, they didn't "need it most." Ok, I just wasn’t sure because of your mentioning the Cats being a lock. At best they can be a lock for a 25% shot. And your (B) point has no merit. Needing a pick does not factor into the lottery–unless of course you assume benevolent divine intervention. Stern can be as damned as he wants, he doesn’t control the lottery. I guarantee when the Spurs won Duncan and when the Bulls won Rose, they didn’t “need it most.”

]]> By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/ben-wallace-sets-games-played-record-by-undrafted-player-in-loss-to-wizards/comment-page-1/#comment-50640 tarsier Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:24:29 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/ben-wallace-sets-games-played-record-by-undrafted-player-in-loss-to-wizards/#comment-50640 I dunno, he doesn't make a lot of highlight reels because that's not his thing. But he is starting to get pretty widespread recognition. I haven't seen many articles about him. But he is often mentioned in articles about other players/occurrences as one of the more underrated players in the league, especially in places like all-star snub lists. I dunno, he doesn’t make a lot of highlight reels because that’s not his thing. But he is starting to get pretty widespread recognition. I haven’t seen many articles about him. But he is often mentioned in articles about other players/occurrences as one of the more underrated players in the league, especially in places like all-star snub lists.

]]> By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/ben-wallace-sets-games-played-record-by-undrafted-player-in-loss-to-wizards/comment-page-1/#comment-50639 tarsier Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:22:18 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/ben-wallace-sets-games-played-record-by-undrafted-player-in-loss-to-wizards/#comment-50639 McGee's certainly not a do-it-all player, but that's ok because he's not a superstar. He is however, quite valuable, because of how good he is at what he does. Although, that's why I wouldn't trade the first rounder for him. The best way to compete is to get a superstar and build around him. Until, Detroit is sure they have one, best to look for one instead of getting complimentary pieces. McGee’s certainly not a do-it-all player, but that’s ok because he’s not a superstar. He is however, quite valuable, because of how good he is at what he does. Although, that’s why I wouldn’t trade the first rounder for him. The best way to compete is to get a superstar and build around him. Until, Detroit is sure they have one, best to look for one instead of getting complimentary pieces.

]]> By: Jack http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/ben-wallace-sets-games-played-record-by-undrafted-player-in-loss-to-wizards/comment-page-1/#comment-50635 Jack Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:10:09 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/ben-wallace-sets-games-played-record-by-undrafted-player-in-loss-to-wizards/#comment-50635 I don't think anyone actually knows how statistically good a season Greg Monroe is having.. http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&per_minute_base=36&type=advanced&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=&year_max=&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=2&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&qual=&c1stat=per&c1comp=gt&c1val=24&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=mp_per_g&c4comp=gt&c4val=31&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=&c6stat=&order_by=per http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&per_minute_base=36&type=advanced&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=&year_max=&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=2&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&qual=&c1stat=per&c1comp=gt&c1val=24&c2stat=stl_per_g&c2comp=gt&c2val=1.4&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=&c6stat=&order_by=per http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&per_minute_base=36&type=advanced&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=&year_max=&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=2&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&qual=&c1stat=per&c1comp=gt&c1val=24&c2stat=mp_per_g&c2comp=gt&c2val=30&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=&c6stat=&order_by=per http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&per_minute_base=36&type=advanced&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=&year_max=&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=2&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&qual=&c1comp=gt&c1val=&c2stat=stl_per_g&c2comp=gt&c2val=1.4&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=&c6stat=&order_by=per Still he gets no media coverage outside of pistons fans I don’t think anyone actually knows how statistically good a season Greg Monroe is having..
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http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&per_minute_base=36&type=advanced&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=&year_max=&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=2&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&qual=&c1stat=per&c1comp=gt&c1val=24&c2stat=stl_per_g&c2comp=gt&c2val=1.4&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=&c6stat=&order_by=per

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http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&per_minute_base=36&type=advanced&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=&year_max=&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=2&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&qual=&c1comp=gt&c1val=&c2stat=stl_per_g&c2comp=gt&c2val=1.4&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=&c6stat=&order_by=per

Still he gets no media coverage outside of pistons fans

]]> By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/ben-wallace-sets-games-played-record-by-undrafted-player-in-loss-to-wizards/comment-page-1/#comment-50633 tarsier Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:04:03 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/02/ben-wallace-sets-games-played-record-by-undrafted-player-in-loss-to-wizards/#comment-50633 I'd have nothing against including a 2nd rounder in a package for him. But I don't think he will be worth what his price tag will be. So I'm not really on the McGee bandwagon. Giving up a first rounder in the deal would also be fine if along with McGee, one of Vesely, Wall, or Washington's first rounder is coming back to Detroit. I’d have nothing against including a 2nd rounder in a package for him. But I don’t think he will be worth what his price tag will be. So I’m not really on the McGee bandwagon. Giving up a first rounder in the deal would also be fine if along with McGee, one of Vesely, Wall, or Washington’s first rounder is coming back to Detroit.

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