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	<title>Comments on: Rip Hamilton&#8217;s issues with the Pistons were clearly with the front office</title>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/01/rip-hamiltons-issues-with-the-pistons-were-clearly-with-the-front-office/comment-page-1/#comment-42281</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 19:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And RIP did something dumb again.  He went against doctors orders to play the Pistons, he hates them so much that he made an emotional decision, and aggravated his pulled groin and now he is out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And RIP did something dumb again.  He went against doctors orders to play the Pistons, he hates them so much that he made an emotional decision, and aggravated his pulled groin and now he is out.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 18:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Derek---Your post is the best and most accurate I&#039;ve ever read on these boards,  Thanks you a thousand times for proving there are sane people on here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Derek&#8212;Your post is the best and most accurate I&#8217;ve ever read on these boards,  Thanks you a thousand times for proving there are sane people on here.</p>
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		<title>By: Murph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 16:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you John Kuester&#039;s butt buddy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you John Kuester&#8217;s butt buddy?</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Dumars broke up a complacent team that was getting old.  He honored a class act in Billups by brokering a deal to send him where he wanted to go, namely home to Denver.  He honored Rip by giving him an absurd contract.  The franchise made him essentially the focal point of the offense, which was something Washington never intended to do.


Rip gained respect in Detroit.  Rip became a champion in Detroit.  Rip became an All Star in Detroit.  Rip was asked to be a man, a leader, and a professional in Detroit...but the lost of his good friend was more than he could bear.  He pouted and whined like a child.  His behavior was identical to Stevie Francis behavior when Orlando traded Cutino Mobley.  Francis whined and said he contemplated retirement.  Huh?

After repeated playoff flame outs, Joe D said there were no more sacred cows.  He said he would trade ANYBODY.  He said he would look to put together a team that could win multiple ways (similar to that Spurs team we should have beat back in &#039;05).  

So what happened?  A declining Ben Wallace overvalued himself and decided to sign with the Bulls.  Billups told Joe D he didn&#039;t want to be a part of a rebuilding project and he didn&#039;t want to mentor someone to take his spot.  So Joe traded him to Denver (which is where he wanted to go).  Joe then extended Rip to show him the franchise was committed to him.  AI came in with declining skills, increasing off court issues, and lacking championship pedigree.  He said he was willing to do whatever to be a part of a winner but he became such a headache that he was paid to stay home.  Rip played the good soldier leading the team in scoring from off the bench, then he took up the mantle of immaturity.  Rip feuded with the Curry and Kuester.  Rip gave up on the court racking up multiple techs (getting tossed) and fouling out multiple games.


The ownership put a freeze on building a good team in favor of putting together a team with paper clips and duct tape.  We are now in a new era.  We have some pieces to play with.  We have an outstanding coach.  We have an owner who wants to win and wants to hold people accountable.


There&#039;s hope on the horizon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Dumars broke up a complacent team that was getting old.  He honored a class act in Billups by brokering a deal to send him where he wanted to go, namely home to Denver.  He honored Rip by giving him an absurd contract.  The franchise made him essentially the focal point of the offense, which was something Washington never intended to do.</p>
<p>Rip gained respect in Detroit.  Rip became a champion in Detroit.  Rip became an All Star in Detroit.  Rip was asked to be a man, a leader, and a professional in Detroit&#8230;but the lost of his good friend was more than he could bear.  He pouted and whined like a child.  His behavior was identical to Stevie Francis behavior when Orlando traded Cutino Mobley.  Francis whined and said he contemplated retirement.  Huh?</p>
<p>After repeated playoff flame outs, Joe D said there were no more sacred cows.  He said he would trade ANYBODY.  He said he would look to put together a team that could win multiple ways (similar to that Spurs team we should have beat back in &#8217;05).  </p>
<p>So what happened?  A declining Ben Wallace overvalued himself and decided to sign with the Bulls.  Billups told Joe D he didn&#8217;t want to be a part of a rebuilding project and he didn&#8217;t want to mentor someone to take his spot.  So Joe traded him to Denver (which is where he wanted to go).  Joe then extended Rip to show him the franchise was committed to him.  AI came in with declining skills, increasing off court issues, and lacking championship pedigree.  He said he was willing to do whatever to be a part of a winner but he became such a headache that he was paid to stay home.  Rip played the good soldier leading the team in scoring from off the bench, then he took up the mantle of immaturity.  Rip feuded with the Curry and Kuester.  Rip gave up on the court racking up multiple techs (getting tossed) and fouling out multiple games.</p>
<p>The ownership put a freeze on building a good team in favor of putting together a team with paper clips and duct tape.  We are now in a new era.  We have some pieces to play with.  We have an outstanding coach.  We have an owner who wants to win and wants to hold people accountable.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s hope on the horizon.</p>
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		<title>By: Murph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 01:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say, judging by how the Knicks are playing this year, they made a huge mistake in dumping Billups for cap space, just like Joe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say, judging by how the Knicks are playing this year, they made a huge mistake in dumping Billups for cap space, just like Joe.</p>
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		<title>By: Murph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 01:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;RIP handled the trade of Billups, the presence of AI, the development of Stuckey, the presence of Ben Gordon and the last two coaches extremely poorly.&quot;

Um...yes...in fact, the entire Pistons organization handled the trade of Billups. the presence of AI, the development of Stuckey, and the prescence of Gordon and the last two coaches poorly.  That&#039;s why the Pistons have been terrible for the last few years, isn&#039;t it?

I couldn&#039;t care less what Rip yelled at Kuester.

I would love to see Rip end his career on an up-note in Chicago, by going deep into the playoffs for the next few years.  In fact, I&#039;d love to see Rip play for another 4 or 5 years.  He&#039;s in such great shape, he just might be able to do it.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;RIP handled the trade of Billups, the presence of AI, the development of Stuckey, the presence of Ben Gordon and the last two coaches extremely poorly.&#8221;</p>
<p>Um&#8230;yes&#8230;in fact, the entire Pistons organization handled the trade of Billups. the presence of AI, the development of Stuckey, and the prescence of Gordon and the last two coaches poorly.  That&#8217;s why the Pistons have been terrible for the last few years, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t care less what Rip yelled at Kuester.</p>
<p>I would love to see Rip end his career on an up-note in Chicago, by going deep into the playoffs for the next few years.  In fact, I&#8217;d love to see Rip play for another 4 or 5 years.  He&#8217;s in such great shape, he just might be able to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Hayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 01:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Are you Rip Hamilton&#039;s wife?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you Rip Hamilton&#8217;s wife?</p>
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		<title>By: Murph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 01:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I&#039;ll take that as a &quot;no&quot;, you aren&#039;t going to apologize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I&#8217;ll take that as a &#8220;no&#8221;, you aren&#8217;t going to apologize.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Hayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 00:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Will Robinson was a great, great scout and basketball mind. He also once said that Darko Milicic reminded him of Wilt Chamberlain. Always love that quote from him looking back on it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think you&#039;re right to an extent. Dumars had success early. Any person that has success early inevitably ends up getting more decision making power and maybe listens to others less. I really do think having less influential voices in the room have hurt over the years. Hopefully, with Lawrence Frank and some of the other basketball hires they&#039;ve made, that begins to change.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will Robinson was a great, great scout and basketball mind. He also once said that Darko Milicic reminded him of Wilt Chamberlain. Always love that quote from him looking back on it.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re right to an extent. Dumars had success early. Any person that has success early inevitably ends up getting more decision making power and maybe listens to others less. I really do think having less influential voices in the room have hurt over the years. Hopefully, with Lawrence Frank and some of the other basketball hires they&#8217;ve made, that begins to change.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 00:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamaal Crawford was traded for cap space.
Larmar Odom was traded for a trade exception.
Every time a player is signed and traded, it is for cap space. The examples are endless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamaal Crawford was traded for cap space.<br />
Larmar Odom was traded for a trade exception.<br />
Every time a player is signed and traded, it is for cap space. The examples are endless.</p>
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