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Chris Broussard suggests Tayshaun Prince-for-Michael Beasley trade

Chris Broussard of ESPN suggested five trades that would help both teams:

5. Detroit Pistons trade Tayshaun Prince to the Minnesota Timberwolves for Michael Beasley

Detroit is horrible, and in need of a major overhaul. They signed Prince to keep an asset, and turning him into the talented Beasley could end up being a coup. I know Beasley has his issues, but he’s also got game, and with the way things are going in Detroit, it’s worth the risk.

By adding Beasley, the Pistons would have a young nucleus of Brandon Knight, Ben Gordon, Beasley and the impressive Greg Monroe. It’s not championship-caliber, but it has a chance of being better than what they have now. Joe Dumars once helped rejuvenate the careers of Billups and Ben Wallace. Maybe he can get through to Beasley, who after two trades would perhaps be a bit humbled.

For Minnesota, it clears out their congested small forward spot and gives Derrick Williams room to grow. The Timberwolves need to find out whether Williams can play the 3 full-time, and what better way than to move Beasley out of the way. In case you haven’t noticed, Minny has done quite well without Beasley in the lineup, going 5-4 in the first nine games he missed due to injury.

Tayshaun Prince can’t be traded until March 1, and even then, I don’t see the Pistons making this trade. Joe Dumars has maintained a young, growing team needs a veteran to guide it, and he clearly sees Prince as that veteran.

That said, without the all-important chance to assess Michael Beasley’s character issues up close, I’d probably make the trade.

57 Comments

  • Jan 24, 201212:23 pm
    by Jodi Jezz

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    I’ve been saying we should go after Beasley for a while!! Beasley is very talented and can become our future SF go-to-guy…smh! Dumars should hire me as his assistant

    • Jan 24, 20122:23 pm
      by tarsier

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      And then he could be advised to give BG and CV max extensions.

      • Jan 24, 20122:46 pm
        by Jodi Jezz

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        ??

        • Jan 25, 20122:10 pm
          by tarsier

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          are you no longer on BG and CV’s one-man bandwagons? i’m sorry, i just assumed.

      • Jan 24, 201211:10 pm
        by Vince

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        HA. I see what you did there.

  • Jan 24, 201212:30 pm
    by Steve K

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    Yes, do it!

    If only because Beasley is only signed through next season.
    I doubt he’s as good as Tayshaun, but that’s beside the point. The team is dreadful. How much is Tayshaun’s “mentoring” actually helping?

    Perhaps we’ll know more over the next month because Tay can’t move until then anyway.

  • Jan 24, 201212:31 pm
    by neutes

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    “For Minnesota, it clears out their congested small forward spot and gives Derrick Williams room to grow.”

    -uh. how?

    “It’s not championship-caliber, but it has a chance of being better than what they have now.”

    -uh. how?

    “Minny has done quite well without Beasley in the lineup, going 5-4 in the first nine games he missed due to injury.”

    -uh. what?

    I’m so confused. Beasley makes us better yet Minny is better without him? Is that maybe because Beasley sucks? Just maybe? The only reason I would make this trade is for Beasley’s contract, which expires after year end. But knowing Dumars he’d sign Beasley to a 4-year $40 million deal, and with that in mind there is no way I can condone making this trade.

    • Jan 24, 20121:51 pm
      by labatts

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      +1

    • Jan 24, 20124:43 pm
      by D_S_V

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      ““For Minnesota, it clears out their congested small forward spot and gives Derrick Williams room to grow.”
      -uh. how?”

      Thank you. I read that and immediately and immediately tweeted Broussard asking who his dealer is.

  • Jan 24, 201212:42 pm
    by Tiko

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    Minnesota would rather lose Beasley in free agency than take on Prince’s contract

  • Jan 24, 201212:42 pm
    by Birdman84

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    That is a dumb trade by Broussard, for Minnesota. I’d love for the Pistons to take it to get an expiring contract. But how does 4 years of Prince free up the small forward spot for Williams?

    • Jan 24, 201212:48 pm
      by Jodi Jezz

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      I think it would make more sense if we do a three-team trade where we send Prince to a contender, Beasley to the Pistons, and T’Wolves get assets…

      • Jan 24, 20122:25 pm
        by tarsier

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        If that contender has assets, why not just grab the assets instead of Beasley? If Dumars really wants Beas, he can just wait until free agency.

        • Jan 24, 20123:10 pm
          by Jodi Jezz

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          Because a contender (like the Lakers) would want a Veteran player like Prince who has a ring and has playoff experience…The Pistons want a younger player to grow with Knight, Stuckey, and Monroe…Why wait till free agency when we have no money?? We should trade for Beasley now while he is a restricted free agent…

          • Jan 25, 20122:12 pm
            by tarsier

            I understand that the contender wants a veteran player. My point was, instead of taking back Beasley, take back whatever they’d send to Minny in your three team deal. Since Beas will be a FA anyway, and he won’t do anything for the Pistons this year, there is no loss in waiting for his free agency.

  • Jan 24, 201212:49 pm
    by Scott

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    If we’re gonna trade anyone, it should be either Gordon/Villanueva/Stuckey.

  • Jan 24, 20121:16 pm
    by Gurman

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    Trade Gordon and Stuckey For a couple first round picks. That would be the best option. Maybe not even stuckey, just gordon. And amnesty Villanueva’s a$$

    • Jan 24, 20122:11 pm
      by Scott

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      Are you kidding? We cant GIVE Gordon away!! Only option I can think of is maybe Gordon/Daye/2012 2nd round pick to Charlotte for Corey Maggette(who has one year less on his contract). Remember, the NBA today is aaaaaaaaaallll about money and contracts, and BG has one of the worst in the entire league.

  • Jan 24, 20122:14 pm
    by Gurman

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    that is true.  we somehow need to stock up on first round picks. this upcoming draft is loaded. we could be the next thunder. we already have knight monroe and stuckeyy

    • Jan 24, 20122:26 pm
      by Birdman84

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      “knight monroe and stuckeyy”

      One of these things is not like the others.

  • Jan 24, 20122:23 pm
    by Joe Dumars

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    lol @ chris broussard

  • Jan 24, 20122:50 pm
    by Scott

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    Phoenix recieves= Rodney Stuckey
    Detroit recieves= Robin Lopez & Josh Childress
     
    Lets face it, BG and Villanueva are basically unmovable. So I say we just keep BG as our starting 2-gaurd with Knight as our PG. Move Stuckey to get us a backup SG and it also gets us a 7ft center to help protect the rim(Phoenix has a logjam at the center spot right now too). And then, amnesty Villanueva. Just trying to help us out.

    • Jan 24, 20124:22 pm
      by Corey

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      I’m sorry Scott, but I think you’re thinking of the wrong Lopez.  Robin averages under 6 pts, 3 rebounds, and less than a block.  How does that “help protect the rim”?

      You are correct on one thing though, Phoenix does make a good trade partner.  My proposal was Gordon for Marcin Gortat (15 pts, 9.8 rebs, 1.7 blks).  We would probably have to take Childress’ bad contract to entice them now, since Gortat is currently at a 23.0 PER & BG is, well, BG.

      We get a scrappy, hard-nosed player to go next to Greg Monroe, while getting rid of the turnover-prone, ill-fit to Detroit Gordon.  They get a guy who should flourish with Nash as well as the chance to get rid of a bad contract.  We will essentially have traded Gordon’s contract for Childress’, adding a year but losing $5.6 million/yr.

      • Jan 25, 20123:19 am
        by Scott

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        No, I had the right Lopez. The stats are only because theres a guy named Gortat in front of him at center. And sorry dude, but I can tell you personally that no one would trade a half-eaten BAG OF CHIPS for Ben Gordon. Cleveland wont even take him and Austin Daye for Antawn Jamisons expiring deal even when they have Tristan Thompson ready to start at PF and in need of a starting shooting gaurd. That says a lot!!

        • Jan 25, 20129:41 am
          by Corey

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          You may be right about Gordon (although I’d almost bet my first born that he will be the old Ben Gordon once he leaves Detroit), but Lopez’s CAREER stats are almost identical to this year’s.  5.8 pts, 3.3 rebounds, 0.8 blocks.  His best year was the year before they got Gortat, with a whopping 8.4 pts, 4.8 rebounds, 1 block.

  • Jan 24, 20124:49 pm
    by Max

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    Trading Stuck is flat out suicide for this team.  Stop it.  Just stop it.  If they trade him for Lopez and Childress, I will lose all faith and I am a true believer.
    Prince would be only legit vet and only real SF on MINN……..Beas and DWill all both much more comfortable at the 4 and Johnson looks like a bust at any position.
    This is the problem the Pistons would have with Beas………….he wants to play the 4 and he is too small and the wrong kind of player to pair with Monroe which means he will be unhappy here and unable to guard small forwards at all.   If Jerebko beats him out at SF with defense once they draft a big man, Beas might wind up being the 6th man that BG or CV should be but do the Pistons really want another situation like that?   Overpaying for a super 6th man that might not be so super?   I say no dice.

    • Jan 25, 20123:14 am
      by Scott

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      How is trading Skunkey, er, Suckey, er, Flunkey, er, Stuckey suicide for this team. To me, he’s one of the most overrated players in the league. I’m only interested in moving him because all our OTHER bad contracts are basically unmovable. You got a better idea?? Yeah, didnt think so. (personal attack removed)

      • Jan 25, 201210:31 am
        by Dynamizer

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        (personal attack removed)

        • Jan 25, 20122:43 pm
          by Scott

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          (personal attack removed) And call me when Stuckey learns how to shoot CONSISTENTLY well from the field. Then I’ll start to believe in him.

          • Jan 25, 20125:45 pm
            by Dynamizer

            (personal attack removed)

        • Jan 27, 20124:37 am
          by Scott

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          (personal attack removed) And yes, I meant what I said about………uh, Rodney.

      • Jan 25, 20122:24 pm
        by Max

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        (personal attack removed)

        • Jan 25, 20122:39 pm
          by Scott

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          Nope, I just watch basketball. You should try it sometime.

  • Jan 24, 20126:21 pm
    by gmehl1977

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    I think a BIG issue with trading for Beasley is something everyone has failed to mention. I have heard whispers that Beasley could have Bipolar disorder. Bipolar for those who don’t know what it is have a read below but it is definitely something that does not go away but is rather managed throughout your life. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder

    • Jan 24, 20127:41 pm
      by warriorofcloud777

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      He Does have Bipolar, and so does Demarcus Cousins, maybe if both those players come to new environments, their behavior may change…or not. I rather roll the dice and make the season interesting on those two and get rid of charlie V (he claimed Kevin Garnett called him a cancer patient, and Charlie V has behavior problems (look at his twitter 2010-2011) and CharlieV stinks, cant rebond, cant block shots, cant play defense, cant penetrate up the middle, cant even pass….

      • Jan 24, 20128:38 pm
        by gmehl1977

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        I have nothing against Beasley or anyone that is bipolar but I really don’t think professional sport is good for people that suffers from it. The NBA has so much pressures that go with it that is definitely no the kind of environment you could expect someone to succeed in. I must admit I didn’t know that Cousins was bipolar as well but I guess the signs are there. Once again I will say that ‘I do not have anything against’ bipolar sufferer’s but just think that the world of competitive sport isnot the place for them to be exposed to. It is a terrible disease that has made many people take there own lives and is a serious issue that cannot be ignored. There is no doubting Beasley’s talent but could you imagine the immense pressure he would be under by all us die hard piston fans to succeed.

  • Jan 24, 20126:25 pm
    by Jayg108

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    Trade Prince Stucky Gordon and Frank for Beasley and Adelman

  • Jan 24, 20127:38 pm
    by warriorofcloud777

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    I think we should trade for Demarcus Cousins, too bad the Kings fired their coach. (on draft day Cousins said he wouldnt mind coming to Detriot. Now I wouldn’t trade Knight, Monroe, Jerebko for him. But hey maybe Prince, Daye, Maxiell? I know you need to trade something to get something, but at this point we need to amnesty Charlie V (where he can be any teams 12th man, and still play no defense), then I guess try to get rid of Ben Gordon’s contract, that idea for Phoenix sounds ok. Then it would be PG: Knight, SG: Stuckey, SF: Jerebko, PF: Cousins, C: Monroe, see the chemistry there…. the Phoenix idea is cheaper to buy out than BG obviously.

  • Jan 24, 20127:56 pm
    by warriorofcloud777

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    ESPN trade machine assumptions, (won’t happen)
    1. Detroit gets: D.Cousins, M. Gortat,
    2. Sacramento gets: J.Childress, H.Warrick, A. Daye
    3. Phoenix gets: Ben Gordon  

    Trade number 2:

    1. Detroit gets: M.Beasly, A. Randolph
    2. Minnesota gets: B.Gordon

    • Jan 25, 20128:34 am
      by Daye and Knight

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      That 2nd trade sounds pretty good, Randolph is underrated and Beasly would be nice, our line up would look like

      PG- Knight
      SG- Stuckey
      SF- Beasley
      PF- Randolph
      C- Monroe

  • Jan 24, 20128:12 pm
    by Laser

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    No clue why Minnesota makes this trade. Maybe Tay is a steadier option, and he’s got the versatility to play the two/point forward. If this ruckus about a veteran leader guiding a young team means shit, Tayshaun could be that guy for Minny. Personally I’d make the trade in a heartbeat because of Beasley’s age and upside. He’s an explosive scorer, and he’d fit well on this roster.
     
    I think Tayshaun can and must be traded. He has a lot to offer to a team; just not this team. For all Dumars’s blather about “If you look at these young rebuilding teams, there’s always one veteran and Tayshaun is the veteran we’ve committed to…” DUDE He’s fucking signed for just one year longer than Ben Gordon and Charlie V. What the fuck?? You can’t just pretend the roster doesn’t have any more veterans on it. This kind of thoughtless mismanagement is why we’re so fucked to begin with. He wanted Gordon, so he went out and signed his broke ass to max years and a billion dollars. Forget that we JUST FUCKING LOCKED THAT POSITION UP. We wanted Gordon so we got him, and damn the rest. We wanted a veteran leader so we locked up the one we wanted, and damn the rest. It’s the way a child thinks. Short-sighted and devoid of responsible planning.
     
    I understand that Tayshaun is a different kind of player and leader than Gordon, but give me a fucking break. You can add veteran leadership in a lot of different ways that don’t include paying $30 million dollars for it over four years at a plentiful position where you should be making room for other players. Give that kind of money to a big man at a scarce position, or sign a veteran who maybe isn’t exactly in his prime and won’t command big money.
     
    I’m all for trading Stuckey as well, provided we could replace him with some low-rent backcourt size. Another fucking ridiculous thing Dumars did was craft a roster that is UTTERLY FUCKING DEPENDENT on a marginal, limited player whose greatest strength involves dominating the ball and keeping his teammates completely uninvolved in the offense. FML

  • Jan 24, 20128:33 pm
    by boogie

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    who ever thinks the trade is stupid…is stupid!.. m.beasley is young, and will mature. tay is getting older and stats are droping…. M beasley i think will be a good fit. build the team around him. he couldnt do like k. durant did in okc… he got drafted then had to plat behind d. wade… joe D. could free up 20 million, and still couldnt get a star player or two here.. its DETROIT…   the trade with minny would be a win win situation!

    • Jan 24, 20129:09 pm
      by neutes

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      if by win you mean lose I’m totally with you! bring on Davis!

      • Jan 25, 20121:48 am
        by gmehl1977

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        I see the Wizards and Bobcats play each other twice within the next 7 days. We could officially own the 2nd worse or equal worse record in the league by then so Davis, Drummond or Barnes might not be a dream after all. I think you will see the pistons put Monroe, Stuckey, Prince and Knight on ice a month before the season ends. Call it early off season surgery if you like but i would call it looking to the future.

  • Jan 24, 201211:25 pm
    by Vince

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    Three Team deal between Phoenix, Detroit, Minny

    Phoenix Gets: Anthony Tolliver, Austin Daye, Jason Maxiell, Martell Webster, Detroit 1st Round pick 2012

    Detroit Gets: Marcin Gortat, Malcolm Lee, Josh Childress

    Minnesota Gets: Charlie Villanueva, Robin Lopez, Phoenix 2nd Round Pick 2012

    Or just go after Kevin Love in FA, they haven’t given him an extension…

  • Jan 25, 20123:06 am
    by damian

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    something is off here. have you fucking seen gortat play? there’s no way the suns would move him for any of those deals. you are grossly overestimating the value of ben gordon.

  • Jan 25, 20123:32 am
    by damian

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    i would be willing to trade prince if we somehow got randolph too. he’s too athletic to not figure it out;  enjoy his game. this trade, unlikely to work but kahn is dumb in most regards so who actually knows.
     
    detroit gets:  michael beasley, anthony randolph, luke ridnour, malcolm lee (optional).
    minnesota gets: tayshaun prince, will bynum, austin daye 2012 or 2013 first round pick, 2013 or 2014 2nd round pick.
     
    i like knight learning the hard way, but ridnour can/will either make him work harder or take his job and prove he (knight) deserves it back. randolph is a better project than daye every day(e) of the year. two expiring contracts, forward depth (not with girth though) and a legitimate point guard. i fux with it.

  • Jan 25, 20126:46 am
    by Gregoire

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    The Pistons will never give up the 2012 1st-Rounder…at least for a top10 Player who would commit to stay longterm what will never happen…and surely not for Beasley…they need a Center and since all true Centers in this league were signed by other teams this offseason the pistons need to get one in the Draft!

  • Jan 25, 20128:30 am
    by Jeremy

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    Those who have suggested using the amnesty clause on CV or BG must be smoking the same stuff Beasley and Broussard are. Honestly, would you as the new owner of a BUISINESS pay, what would be, the remaining 2 years on someone’s deal just to go away? Its not like the owner gets off scott free in that deal, he/she still has to pay the remainder of the deal while they watch that player sign with another team – the player is the winner in the situation because he gets paid twice.

    Gores, from what I can tell, seems like he is a bit smarter than to be throwing $16+ million away to make CV disappear. Just saying, there is a higher probability that CV gets a buy out offer before he gets amnestied. Overall, as a owner, Gores will be paying a smaller amount up front and have only a small impact negative impact on the salary cap. This is the new NBA and players aren’t going to want to sign here until there is a bonafide stud here anyways and the best way to get that is through the draft. Draft for talent not need in the lottery (I say that because you never know where the ping pong balls fall and we will be drafting, and if Harrison Barnes is sitting there and he is the best player, you can’t pass on him to take a project big).

    • Jan 25, 201211:34 am
      by neutes

      Reply

      The problem with a buyout is that the amount stays on your cap, thereby limiting the moves you can make. A buyout is what makes a player go away, but then you can’t even do anything with the cap space because he still occupies it. The amnesty allows you to remove the cap hit altogether. And that’s up to Gores to decide, but have you seen the attendance? Keeping these dudes around isn’t exaclty attracting a crowd. Gores could amnesty Gordon and potentially make that money back in 1 year if attendance increased. Doing nothing is going to cost just as much money.

      • Jan 25, 201211:59 am
        by sebastian

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        Neutes, you’ve said it: the attendance at the Palace is abysmal. I can only image how badly the acoustics are during the halftime concerts.
        Roster moves need to be done, quick, in an effort to increase the attendance and interest in the team.

  • Jan 25, 20129:05 am
    by A.T.

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    How about trading CV and Austin Daye to the Nets to bring back Memo Okur?

  • Jan 25, 20121:57 pm
    by Max

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    Anyone who thinks OKL built their team the right way shouldn’t be hoping for any trades anytime soon.  A trade is the last piece of the puzzle once you have already drafted nearly your entire core and you are certain about how your roster should be composed going forward.   I’m not for any trades unless it’s an absolute slam dunk until at least after this year’s draft so the team knows what they are building around.
    Beas is not nearly as good as Monroe or STUCKEY, is hopefully not as good as Knight will be very soon and will hopefully not be as good as this year’s draft pick.   Therefore, if I don’t even project him as a top four player on the team, why would I trade for him when he comes with so much baggage, is quite possible the worst defensive player in the entire league and is a tweener who would rather play the 4 where he would be a horrendous fit to play next to Monroe?

  • Jan 25, 20122:14 pm
    by Max

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    Here is my exhaustive list of who I’d be willing to trade Stuckey for straight up with age a consideration but not contract (I don’t want him traded)
    BOS: Rondo,   NJ: D Williams, B Lopez, their #1 pick    NY: Anthony, Stoudamire, PHL:  Holiday, (maybe Turner after a long look), TOR, no one. #1pick     CHI: Rose, Noah, CLE, No one,  IND: Hibbert, George, Granger, MIL: Bogut, ATL: Smith, Horford, CHA: No one, #1pick MIA: LBJ, Wade, Bosh, ORL: Howard, WAS: Wall, McGee, #pick
    DALL: No one, HOU: Lowry, MEM: Gasol, Randolph, Gay, NO: Gordon, Okafur, SA: No one, DEN: Gallinari, Lawson, Nene, MINN: Love, Rubio, DWilliams, POR: Aldridge, Matthews, OKL: Durant, Westbrook, Harden, Ibaka, Perkins, UTAH: Jefferson, Millsap, Favors, Kanter, GS: Ellis, Curry, Lee, LAC: Paul, Griffen, Jordan, LAL: Gasol, Bynum, PHO: Gortat, SAC: Evans (Cousins scares me) #1pick
    That makes 53 players I would trade him for straight up but in general, these are the players teams won’t trade for Stuckey and that’s why Stuckey shouldn’t be traded.

    • Jan 25, 20123:38 pm
      by sebastian

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      Max, I think that WE would be better off having Stuckey on OUR roster, for sure. When Stuckey becomes OUR third best player WE will become a good team, again, which means that WE will certainly need to alter OUR roster via trades and the draft.
      It is hard watching Stuckey play, while he is not in the proper condition and is struggling with the groin injury.

  • Jan 25, 20122:17 pm
    by Max

    Reply

    I counted wrong: it was 50.

  • Jan 25, 20125:30 pm
    by BIGMARV

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    No Thank you, you’re looking at another Charlie V he will get here and play a few good games impress Joe D. Joe will sign him to a 5 year max deal and he will hide in a cave for the next 5 years faking injuries and using “Family Issues” as an excuse on why he can’t play a game. But then at the same time you might see him at a strip club on 8mile making it rain NO THANK YOU! I rather look for my SF in the draft.

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