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Charlie Villanueva enjoys Detroit for proximity to son

The NBA’s new amnesty clause is often painted as a victory for owners, a chance to cut an undesirable salary. For teams in the luxury tax, that’s true.

But for non-tax teams, it’s a victory for the players. An amnestied player is still guaranteed his salary, and if he clears amnesty waivers, he can earn even more. So, from a strictly financial standpoint, a player actually has short-term incentive to be amnestied.

Charlie Villanueva has more at stake, though. Vince Ellis of the Detroit Free Press:

Villanueva isn’t just paying lip service when he says he loves the Detroit area for "its friendly people" — he considers it home now — and it keeps him close to his son in Toronto.

Just interesting to know what motivates Villanueva, who probably must improve his production to avoid getting amnestied.

17 Comments

  • Jan 9, 201212:11 pm
    by Sebastian

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    Well why don’t the Pistons trade Charlie v. to Toronto for Amir Johnson and Samuel Alibi that way Charlie V. can actually play in the sam city, where his son lives and WE can get two players to help OUR guys in the paint.

    Do it Joe!

    • Jan 9, 201212:23 pm
      by JT's Hoops Blog

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      Hey Sebastien,

      Why do you think that we would want that bum back in Toronto.  You guys had your shot w/ Amir Johnson and you blew it, remember?  You’ll just have to wait another two years until his contract ends or find some suker willing to take what’s left of his deal via trade.

      • Jan 9, 201212:39 pm
        by Sebastian

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        JT so he (Charlie V.) can be closer to his son. A win-win for everyone involved. We get two legit paint players (Amir and Alibi) and Charlie V.’s son has his dad at home to spend more quality time together.

        Remember it is all about the family and the kids, oh and OUR Pistons getting rid of dead weight.

    • Jan 9, 201212:32 pm
      by Patrick Hayes

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      “Charlie V. can actually play in the sam city, where his son lives and WE can get two players to help OUR guys in the paint.”

      Everyone wins in that scenario. Except Toronto. They’ve seen the Charlie V movie before.

      • Jan 9, 20124:48 pm
        by BIG MARV

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        THANK YOU! looks like sebastian is back with his dream trades again

  • Jan 9, 201212:11 pm
    by Jodi Jezz

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    All Charlie V has to do is play better defense!..That’s all I’m asking for

    • Jan 9, 201212:26 pm
      by JT's Hoops Blog

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      Not only play better D, but just better in general.  That guy has some many skills and talents and barely uses any of them.  He has been such a disappointment overall.  Who would have thought he would be so soft in the paint and lacking heart?

      • Jan 9, 20121:46 pm
        by Jason

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        “Who would have thought he would be so soft in the paint”

        Anyone who has ever watched him play basketball, since joining the NBA… He’s not a terrible player, he’s just not on a good fit on a team that has such a lack of defensive minded players. You cannot have Ben Gordon and Charlie V on the court at the same time, unless you have a power shot blocker / rebounding machine on the floor.. Even then, it’s going to be tough to play Detroit Basketball. You can afford to have one defensive liability on the court, but when it’s your PF – it’s just not going to be pretty, unless you are a team that scores 100+ per game..

    • Jan 9, 201212:30 pm
      by Patrick Hayes

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      People have only been waiting about seven years now for him to “play better defense.” It’s just not in him.

  • Jan 9, 20121:46 pm
    by tarsier

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    BTW, with all the complaints about not having a second serviceable big in Detroit, I was noticing that Phoenix seems to have an overabundance. Gortat, Frye, Lopez, and Morris can’t all get enough minutes. I’m assuming that they wouldn’t part too easily with Gortat or Morris who are a beast and young with upside respectively. And the Pistons don’t really want Frye. But what would it take to get Lopez? Daye probably wouldn’t cut it…

    So Jerebko for Lopez, what do you think? Does Detroit accept? Does Phoenix accept? If so, is it a win-win, win-lose, or lose-lose?

    This seems to be a very reasonable deal to me since I can’t decide whether it is good or bad for either side on a talent level and the swap better fills both teams’ needs.

    • Jan 9, 20121:52 pm
      by Jason

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      Why not Daye/Charlie V? I definitely do NOT want to give up Jerebko, no matter what… And I could see Phoenix being interested in both Charlie / Daye, being they are a score first team..

      Even though I do like Lopez and think he could help this team, giving up Jerebko is a NO GO in my opinion.. I’d give them Tayshaun ALL DAY, so that Jerebko can actually move down to the SF position…. But of course, that’s never going to happen..

      • Jan 9, 20122:47 pm
        by tarsier

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        Why would they possibly want CV? Daye has some desirability but I doubt enough. I don’t love the idea of losing Jonas either but I thought it an interesting possibility. And any deal that you would take without a moment’s hesitation is probably not realistic anyway.

    • Jan 9, 20122:06 pm
      by Patrick Hayes

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      They wouldn’t be able to trade Jerebko until March 1 since he signed a new contract. And based on Lopez’s injury history, I doubt the Pistons would deal him for Lopez anyway. Maybe Daye and a second rounder would do it.

      • Jan 9, 20122:59 pm
        by tarsier

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        I forgot that Jerebko is temporarily untradable. But in a hypothetical like this, I don’t feel like that matters too much. Just change the trade to 2 months later.

        Unless Daye gets more PT (undeserved though it may be), he won’t have much value. Probably not enough to get that deal done. That’s why I would rather see him playing than Wilkins. Wilkins would have to play absolutely out of his mind to gain any value. If Daye continues to struggle, I guess he could hurt his value a little, but it’s low enough right now that I think that is a negligible risk. To have a future in Detroit or to send assets back Dumars’ way when he leaves, Daye must establish himself as Peja 2.0.

  • Jan 9, 20124:47 pm
    by sebastian

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    Charlie V. – Be a father to your child and demand a trade to Toronto!

  • Jan 9, 20124:52 pm
    by BIG MARV

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    First of all in order for charlie Vanilla Wafer to show some defense he has to get on the court first. when is the last time we actually seen him run up and down the court in quality minutes?

  • Jan 10, 201211:15 am
    by sebastian

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    Charlie V. is a damn disgrace; “sore ankle” my ass. Like Big Marv, said, when is the last time we actually seen him run up and down the court in quality minutes?
    Answer: April 15, 2011.

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