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Pistons, Rodney Stuckey reportedly not close on new deal

Vince Ellis of the Detroit Free Press:

To echo @deryNBA , #Pistons and Stuckey are not close on a deal.

Yesterday, the sides were reportedly talking, but it appears this deal won’t be wrapped up quickly like the contracts for Tayshaun Prince and Jonas Jerebko seemed to be. Stuckey’s actual dollar value is hardest to gauge. Based solely on his production so far, he’s probably worth in the $5-$6 millionish per year range roughly. But he’s still improving (if incrementally) and young. His agent is most assuredly making the case that he’s worth way more than that.

22 Comments

  • Dec 9, 20114:18 pm
    by Scott

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    Sign-and-trade him(along with one of our bad contracts, most likely BG or CV) and get some kind of cap relief/frontcourt help/draft picks in return. Screw Suckey! Thats just one less gaurd clogging up our STILL overcrowded backcourt.

  • Dec 9, 20114:20 pm
    by Jodi Jezz

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    Dang!! I knew we should of signed Stuckey first…Why in the world would Dumars sign Jonas before he signed Stuckey??

    • Dec 9, 20115:15 pm
      by Vince

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      Because Stuckey is a liability, too much time wasted on him and too much money as well is he re signs, he’s a 2 not a 1, it’s clear as day so let him walk and play for a team that will better use his skillset. Knight, while though not NBA ready is an upgrade, and Bynum could finally get more minutes if Rodney walks… Either that or S&T him for a big man. I see no interest in seeing him in a Pistons jersey.

  • Dec 9, 20114:33 pm
    by apa8ren9

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    Well since Marcus Thornton is getting reportedly 40 mil over 5 there is no way Stuckey is only going for 5 or 6 mil.   Whether you like him or not I think he will get 7-8 over the next 4 yrs minimum because he is young.   I like him personally and I think the Pistons have to bide their time and keep all of their assets until the right deal comes along.  Patience grasshoppers!

  • Dec 9, 20114:50 pm
    by Vince

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    Well, to be honest I wouldn’t mind if Stuckey didn’t sign a deal with the Pistons, on the other hand, maybe this is me being sentimental but Billups has made it clear he’ll retire if not contacted after he’s amnestied by the Knicks… Anyone up for Mr Big Shot to finish his career in Detroit? 1 year 8 million? It’d be great for Prince, Wallace and Rip to have their PG back, he can help out Knight, put some confidence in the team and he’s already the fan favorite, at 35 he’s still producing well so it’s a low risk signing, besides it would be great to see them play alongside again, and to see Big Ben and Chauncey retire together in Detroit… Maybe it’s just me but I think It would be a great move by Joe D.

    • Dec 9, 20115:04 pm
      by Tim

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      Vince, thats not how it works.  He would have to go through a “waiver wire” process with the teams under the cap.  We are not under the cap, so we cant partake.  If he did last through that (which is why his agent is threatening retirement) hes going to the heat or other contender.  Thats why they are threatening retirement, to scare teams under the cap away from bidding on him.  WHat happens to his waived income if he retires rather than reports.

      • Dec 9, 20115:11 pm
        by Vince

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        Sigh, I know I’m just being overly optimistic that he could come back to Detroit… On another note, according to Summers’ FB page he’s working out with the Hornets, so hopefully he gets a chance to finally prove himself…

  • Dec 9, 20114:59 pm
    by James R

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    Please don’t sign stuckey. He has a bad attitude and frankly we don’t need him. Knight is going to be a stud so he should get a lot of playing time. Sign and trade rodney PLEASE!!!!

  • Dec 9, 20115:01 pm
    by omar

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    Rather S&T him or let him walk. Worst case he walks and Knight gets all the minutes at PG

    I agree with Jodi, Joe may have screwed him himself signing Tay if he doesnt have enough for Stuck,ey now

    • Dec 9, 20116:03 pm
      by tarsier

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      I believe he has Bird rights to Stuckey. So the Prince signing is irrelevant.

  • Dec 9, 20115:05 pm
    by Coach_Ackley

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    Well Jodi Jezz-Jonas is more important right now than Stuckey.. Jonas got signed first cuz he’s valuable to us right now cuz he helps our frontcourt out so not signing Stuckey now or never is no big deal cuz we have backcourt players under contract and not enough BIGS on this roster…..

  • Dec 9, 20115:15 pm
    by Iz

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    apparently rip is getting waived

    • Dec 9, 20115:20 pm
      by Vince

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      Oh dear god I hope you’re wrong, he is probably the easiest contract to move, that would be a dumbass move to amnesty him, use it on CV or BG! Someone who can’t contribute anything! Hell sign Stuckey and then amnesty him for all I care, don’t waive Rip!!

  • Dec 9, 20115:26 pm
    by neutes

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    Well if Prince is worth $7.5 mil per year, CV $7.5, Rip $12.5, Max $5, Jerebko $4, Gordon $12, and I’m assuming these are all fair market value because what GM would be foolish enough to overpay for every single player on his roster…oh wait. Well anyways it’s safe to assume Stuckey’s fair market value is somewhere between $10-15 million per season given the data previously presented. What’s the cap looking like these days? What are we at about $60 million? That leaves about $12 million before we hit the luxury, so I’m going with a 5 year $60 million contract.

  • Dec 9, 20115:33 pm
    by Rip

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    • Dec 9, 20115:42 pm
      by neutes

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      yup. but not the full amount. i’m not sure if it’s half the buyout amount or half his original contract amount. google it. either way he still counts somewhere between $4-6.25 million against the cap this season, and next, which is better than $12.5 i suppose.

  • Dec 9, 20115:40 pm
    by qm22

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    A young prospect who played better than Tayshaun is very assuredly worth a bigger contract than Tay… I think Stuckey was worth about what Prince ended up getting (with a difference in years offered), but now that Tay has been given ~7-7.5 million it raises Stuckey’s price.

  • Dec 9, 20115:44 pm
    by Adam

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    Yes, Rip’s contract counts against our salary cap, but only to the amount that the buyout was for because he was waived, not amnestied. Whatever he was bought out for would be spread over two years. I assume he chose to be bought for significantly less than he is full contract, so that he had his pick of where to go, instead of being amnestied and being picked up off of waivers.
    Love this move by Dumars…finally owning up to his mistakes again. This is what he used to do when players wanted to go/had to go and glad to see him do it again with a new owner. Now we will be able to see if Ben Gordan has anything left.

  • Dec 9, 20115:53 pm
    by Laser

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    Well, the team is probably better off without Rip. Maybe buying him out makes it easier to make roster moves while remaining under the tax line (like re-signing Stuckey and adding a MLE big man), but the bottom line is that Joe is looking at the same damn roster with the same damn problems unless he changes something. He probably explored his options and realized this was the best one he had, which shows how bad a mess he’s made. Shame since in another year he would be a tradeable asset, but this is where we’re at. This looks more like Joe saving face than anything. Now at least his perimeter is down to a manageable six man rotation with pretty clear roles (Knight/Bynum, Stuckey/Gordon, Prince/Daye), so the product on the floor should be less of a muddled clusterf*ck.
     
    And yes I’m focusing on Rip being waived here, but that’s the news of the day.

  • Dec 9, 20115:56 pm
    by Jodi Jezz

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    Rip Hamilton has just been bought out!!!!

  • Dec 9, 20117:58 pm
    by Joe Dumars

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    Stuckey Wants out.
    http://twitter.com/#!/HimOn1

  • Dec 9, 20119:57 pm
    by pratt321

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    let sucky stuckey go !  he’s a ball hog !   I love the Pistons . He just don’t fit.  We need to get back to our roots . HARD nose D !!!  Bring in the young guys , mode them in to what we need .

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