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Pistons open preseason with Cavaliers


  • Teams: Cleveland Cavaliers at Detroit Pistons
  • Date: Dec. 16,  2011
  • Time: 7:30 p.m.
  • Television: Fox Sports Detroit, NBATV


  • Pistons: 0-0 preseason
  • Cavaliers: 0-0 preseason

Probable starters



  • Ramon Sessions
  • Anthony Parker
  • Alonzo Gee
  • Antawn Jamison
  • Anderson Varejao

Las Vegas projection

Spread: Pistons -5

Over/under: 193

Score: Pistons win, 99-94

Three things not to watch

Because this first preseason games offers so many potential things to learn about the Pistons, I figured it would be easier list the things not to watch.

1. Starting lineup

Vince Ellis of the Detroit Free Press:

Frank on lineup: "You don’t have to read too much into anything because there will be a different starting lineup on Tuesday."

2. Tayshaun Prince

Prince has been bothered by a sore knee, and given that Wilkins is starting, I’d guess Prince won’t play.

3. Substitution patterns

How Lawrence Frank delegates minutes will be very important – once the regular-season starts. But watching the amount of minutes guys play tonight could show something.


  • Dec 16, 20116:29 pm
    by JT's Hoops Blog


    Whoa!  Damien Wikins is with the Pistons now?  So mush for family loyalty, huh.  I guess the Hawks let him go.  That’s too bad.  i enjoyed seeing him in a Hawks uniform.  It brought back a lot of things.

  • Dec 16, 20117:26 pm
    by BIG MARV


    Yeah we will see how that will bynum starting thing goes that wont last too long especially if knight has a good night no daye or jerebko at the starting SF position? Wilikins really? idk about that he(frank) is really doing some experementation

  • Dec 16, 20119:01 pm
    by Scott


    Did I miss something?? WHERES SKUNKEY!?!?

  • Dec 16, 20119:07 pm
    by detroitpcb


    First impressions and old thoughts:

    Irving is much quicker than Knight.

    The Pistons defensive principals are much improved. This team is going to be more difficult to score on.

    Will Bynum is not a starting NBA point guard.

    Ben Gordon is doing the same thing he did last year, clanking open jumpers, forcing shots, and missing wide open teammates on the swing pass. Are we really going to have to watch this all year?

  • Dec 16, 20119:49 pm
    by Vince


    Co-sign pcb, Gordon is off, he’s thrown up so many bricks you could probably build a home, Knight is waay better than I though he would be, hustle, aggresive, good court vision, he’s intelligent with the basketball, Bynum is doing OK I think, Villanueva seems to be more alive – which is very rare – JJ still as explosive, Daye is playing well…Maxiell with a few good blocks… other than that I really want to see Macklin play! Our D is better but we need to work on offense, watching Gordon as our 1st option is painful to watch…

  • Dec 16, 201110:03 pm
    by gmehl1977


    Can anybody say Andre Drummond

  • Dec 16, 201110:10 pm
    by gmehl1977


    We are going to be the WORST rebounding team in the history of the NBA this season from what i can see :-(

  • Dec 16, 201110:23 pm
    by detroitpcb


    yes rebounds will be an issue. We need another big. How about trading Ben Gordon for Milsap? when Max went out we started to really have trouble down low. Cleveland lived at the foul line. Austin Daye is Detroits best offensive player but he is still a little soft around the basket. He did chip in five blocks tonight and got a few rebounds.

    • Dec 17, 20118:07 am
      by Sebastian


      detroitpcb is on to something. WE should really get in touch with the Jazz folks about moving Ben G. for Millsap or my second choice, Jefferson.

      Utah needs scoring punch from the “2″ and WE need another SF (Millsap) or PF/C (Jefferson). WE will be the softess team in the history of the NBA without a move of the aforementioned sort.

      Oh, Knight can really, really play; and resign Stuckey – quick! 

      • Dec 17, 20118:24 am
        by Sebastian


        Another trade that WE should pursue is:

        Charlie V. to Houston for Thabeet and Patrick Patterson. This trade works finncially and potentially roster-wise. THe ROckets get a PF who can help them with their scoring, keeping up with their rivals in the Southwest Division and other Western Conference teams. Also, Houston rids themself of THabeet, a player and contract that it rather not have.

        The Pistons get a 7’3″ body that has a contract that comes off OUR books in 2012 and a player, who improves a little bit could be resign at a reasonable cost, presumably.

        But, the gem in the trade is Patrick Patterson. This guy is a real PF. If the Piston had this kid on its roster starting at the PF position, the Pistons would see a team going forward.

        If a trade of some significance is not made, the season is going to be worst than the previous two under the cluless, Kuester.

  • Dec 16, 201110:28 pm
    by Vince


    We were dominated on the rebounding aspect of the game :l I’m liking the D but most of our front court were on 5 fouls, Gordon heated up a bit in the fourth but Daye proved more efficient, Monroe picked up from where he left off, we need help down low and rebounding wise, amnesty Villanueva, sign Dalembert, unload Maxiell and Gordon for a decent shooting guard, I hear Jackson wants out of Milwaukee but not sure how he’ll take playing in a Pistons jersey at the Palace with Big Ben… Coach has a lot of work to do with this team…

  • Dec 16, 201110:39 pm
    by Laser


    Well we just played a 19 win team down to the wire. Tough to really judge just yet, since Tay, Body and Stuck didn’t play, but we may actually have a worse roster than last season. That’s the first impression I had watching early on. Defense looked much improved, but the personnel is a joke. Good thing Joe has no shortage of blind supporters or I think he might be sweating right about now.

  • Dec 16, 201110:49 pm
    by Daye and Knight


    Daye should definitely be considered as our starting SG after his performance tonight. On top of being our best offensive player tonight he showed some defense (5 blocks) as well. He would be a problem for other guards to match up with cause he’s 6’11 and he can dribble down the lane and hit 3′s

  • Dec 16, 201111:14 pm
    by omar


    Gordon is garbage. CV is less than Garbage.

    Austin Daye still looks like a rookie in his 3rd year.

    Knight looked awesome. Excellent pick. Monroe a little rusty, but loved the offense going through him in the low post, and still got his double-double basically.

    Joe needs to go get Kris Humphries w/ the MLE. Or else we are screwed up front.

    Monroe is good but cant take on 4 bigs from another team by himself.

    Jerebko is not a big man. Maxiell is trash. Ben is at best Monroe’s backup C. We need another real big man DESPARATELY

  • Dec 17, 201112:13 am
    by vic


    bring on andre drummond! but seriously its good that at least Monroe and Knight look good.

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