Comments on: Pistons 5-on-5 on ESPN http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/12/pistons-5-on-5-on-espn/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Wed, 19 Jun 2013 02:06:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: John http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/12/pistons-5-on-5-on-espn/comment-page-1/#comment-38211 John Thu, 15 Dec 2011 20:40:55 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/12/pistons-5-on-5-on-espn/#comment-38211 1. Daye - he needs to prove if he can be a rotation player or not. Stuckey is probably #2. 2. Gordon - I think he never really knew what kuester wanted from him last year, it just seemed like he was lost on the court and had a lot of games where he forced a ton of shots and others where he took 2. Hopefully Frank gives him a more defined role. 3. don't have insider 4. Its a toss up between another quality big, and also coaching, I think Frank is gonna work out but the last 3 years have me wary, and Gordon wasn't the only player that looked lost over those seasons. 5. I think it'll help them, Frank's nets teams always seem to puss the tempo a bit, and I think that fits the current roster better, they also get Jonas back and they needed an energy guy last year (bynum tends to be a bit of black hole some games) which could really impact their chances.  1. Daye – he needs to prove if he can be a rotation player or not. Stuckey is probably #2.

2. Gordon – I think he never really knew what kuester wanted from him last year, it just seemed like he was lost on the court and had a lot of games where he forced a ton of shots and others where he took 2. Hopefully Frank gives him a more defined role.

3. don’t have insider

4. Its a toss up between another quality big, and also coaching, I think Frank is gonna work out but the last 3 years have me wary, and Gordon wasn’t the only player that looked lost over those seasons.

5. I think it’ll help them, Frank’s nets teams always seem to puss the tempo a bit, and I think that fits the current roster better, they also get Jonas back and they needed an energy guy last year (bynum tends to be a bit of black hole some games) which could really impact their chances. 

]]> By: Max http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/12/pistons-5-on-5-on-espn/comment-page-1/#comment-38117 Max Wed, 14 Dec 2011 20:06:26 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/12/pistons-5-on-5-on-espn/#comment-38117 Being on the floor is not the same thing as getting up shots.  The coach or PG have to call your number.  Gordon is a volume shooter who needs to get himself above 10 shots a game to be effective. Being on the floor is not the same thing as getting up shots.  The coach or PG have to call your number.  Gordon is a volume shooter who needs to get himself above 10 shots a game to be effective.

]]> By: Jakob Eich http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/12/pistons-5-on-5-on-espn/comment-page-1/#comment-38107 Jakob Eich Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:06:53 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/12/pistons-5-on-5-on-espn/#comment-38107 1. For which Pistons player is the 2011-12 season most important? There's so many of them! I'd pick Daye, Gordon, and Villanueva! Daye, because he has to prove he can be Prince's heir. He is popular with the fanbase and has all the tools to be a starter. This year he has to show he can deliver. Gordon, because of what was said in the column. There are no more excuses! He has an experienced coach at his side, and he is the definite starter on opening night. Villanueva, because he is pretty much a combination of Gordon and Daye. He needs to put it together, otherwise he won't last in this league much longer. 2. Who is the most intriguing player on the Pistons’ roster? It's gotta be Knight. Some scouts say he has the potential to be one of the better guards in the league and even the second best PG in this year's (weak) class. Other scouts talk about his frame. I hear he has great work ethic and loves playing basketball. I don't need him to be a ROY, if he has an exciting season, and creates a great atmosphere I'll be fine. 5. Will a shortened season help or hurt the Pistons? Definitely hurt. We have a young team with new pieces, AND most importantly a new coach. It will take a while bfore the players will have his system down. I'm looking forward to analyzing it, seeing new tweaks and improvements every game. I predict a slow start to the season, and a finish that fills up hope. 1. For which Pistons player is the 2011-12 season most important?
There’s so many of them! I’d pick Daye, Gordon, and Villanueva! Daye, because he has to prove he can be Prince’s heir. He is popular with the fanbase and has all the tools to be a starter. This year he has to show he can deliver. Gordon, because of what was said in the column. There are no more excuses! He has an experienced coach at his side, and he is the definite starter on opening night. Villanueva, because he is pretty much a combination of Gordon and Daye. He needs to put it together, otherwise he won’t last in this league much longer.
2. Who is the most intriguing player on the Pistons’ roster?
It’s gotta be Knight. Some scouts say he has the potential to be one of the better guards in the league and even the second best PG in this year’s (weak) class. Other scouts talk about his frame. I hear he has great work ethic and loves playing basketball. I don’t need him to be a ROY, if he has an exciting season, and creates a great atmosphere I’ll be fine.
5. Will a shortened season help or hurt the Pistons?

Definitely hurt. We have a young team with new pieces, AND most importantly a new coach. It will take a while bfore the players will have his system down. I’m looking forward to analyzing it, seeing new tweaks and improvements every game. I predict a slow start to the season, and a finish that fills up hope.

]]> By: Chris http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/12/pistons-5-on-5-on-espn/comment-page-1/#comment-38080 Chris Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:25:41 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/12/pistons-5-on-5-on-espn/#comment-38080 1. For which Pistons player is the 2011-12 season most important? Greg Monroe.  That's not just for in terms of wins or losses, but his development will be critical toward signing free agents and working trades for players. 2. Who is the most intriguing player on the Pistons’ roster? Some people have already decided that he can be no more than what he is, but I think it's Stuckey.  The guy has such a combination of speed, size, and length that he could be a difference maker with his ballhandling ability. 3. What’s the most surprising take in Hollinger’s Pistons profiles? Not an insider. 4. Based on Hollinger’s profiles, what do the Pistons need most? Not an insider.  5. Will a shortened season help or hurt the Pistons? I think it hurts for 3 main reasons- 1)  Lawrence Frank is bringing in new offensive and defensive systems.  To be realistic, it's unlikely that he's going to be able to have enough time that he'd like to devote to everything he'd want to teach. 2)  There's not going to be much time to practice.  Unless Frank adopts a policy of playing rookies before they earn spots, it's unlikely that Knight, Daye, or Maclin (if he makes the team) will be able to push starters for minutes- barring injuries. 3)  This team is thin on the front line.  With more games crammed into a shorter period, teams lacking depth could suffer. 1. For which Pistons player is the 2011-12 season most important?
Greg Monroe.  That’s not just for in terms of wins or losses, but his development will be critical toward signing free agents and working trades for players.

2. Who is the most intriguing player on the Pistons’ roster?

Some people have already decided that he can be no more than what he is, but I think it’s Stuckey.  The guy has such a combination of speed, size, and length that he could be a difference maker with his ballhandling ability.
3. What’s the most surprising take in Hollinger’s Pistons profiles?
Not an insider.

4. Based on Hollinger’s profiles, what do the Pistons need most?
Not an insider. 

5. Will a shortened season help or hurt the Pistons?

I think it hurts for 3 main reasons-

1)  Lawrence Frank is bringing in new offensive and defensive systems.  To be realistic, it’s unlikely that he’s going to be able to have enough time that he’d like to devote to everything he’d want to teach.

2)  There’s not going to be much time to practice.  Unless Frank adopts a policy of playing rookies before they earn spots, it’s unlikely that Knight, Daye, or Maclin (if he makes the team) will be able to push starters for minutes- barring injuries.

3)  This team is thin on the front line.  With more games crammed into a shorter period, teams lacking depth could suffer.

]]> By: detroitpcb http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/12/pistons-5-on-5-on-espn/comment-page-1/#comment-38079 detroitpcb Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:51:36 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/12/pistons-5-on-5-on-espn/#comment-38079 1. Chicago 2. Indiana 3. Milwaukee 4. Detroit 5. Cleveland no way Cleveland finishes ahead of us     1. Chicago

2. Indiana

3. Milwaukee

4. Detroit

5. Cleveland

no way Cleveland finishes ahead of us    

]]> By: gmehl1977 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/12/pistons-5-on-5-on-espn/comment-page-1/#comment-38077 gmehl1977 Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:09:17 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/12/pistons-5-on-5-on-espn/#comment-38077 I don't think i am over reacting to say that we will be fighting out for last with Cleveland. I don't like it but if we do suck this season then with whomever we get in draft along with the amnesty of either Gordon or CV will have us back contending sooner rather than later. I wont be sad if we can manage a sign and trade for Stuckey either. I think this team needs to be built around Monroe, Knight, Jerebko and Daye. If we can snag Drummond in the draft and maybe get another 1st rounder than this team can take a similar path the OKC Thunder. I don’t think i am over reacting to say that we will be fighting out for last with Cleveland. I don’t like it but if we do suck this season then with whomever we get in draft along with the amnesty of either Gordon or CV will have us back contending sooner rather than later. I wont be sad if we can manage a sign and trade for Stuckey either. I think this team needs to be built around Monroe, Knight, Jerebko and Daye. If we can snag Drummond in the draft and maybe get another 1st rounder than this team can take a similar path the OKC Thunder.

]]> By: Saul http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/12/pistons-5-on-5-on-espn/comment-page-1/#comment-38076 Saul Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:38:04 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/12/pistons-5-on-5-on-espn/#comment-38076 @gmehl1977: Last in the Central?? The Pistons should definitely beat out at least Cleveland. I think we can beat out the Bucks if all goes well, but (as much as it kills me to say this) the Pacers are a step above us right now too. That leaves Chicago at the top. So, the actual finish would be like this: Chicago Indiana Milwaukee Detroit Cleveland The Bucks are ahead of us based on the presence of Andrew Bogut. If he is injured again this season, I believe the Pistons can edge them out for third place. Indiana has too many assets to finish below second place, anything lower should be embarrassing for them. Give it a year or two and Detroit will be back to contending for 2nd or 3rd place consistently. Only if a monster trade happens or a young player explodes will Detroit exceed the year or two mark. @gmehl1977: Last in the Central?? The Pistons should definitely beat out at least Cleveland. I think we can beat out the Bucks if all goes well, but (as much as it kills me to say this) the Pacers are a step above us right now too. That leaves Chicago at the top. So, the actual finish would be like this:

Chicago
Indiana
Milwaukee
Detroit
Cleveland

The Bucks are ahead of us based on the presence of Andrew Bogut. If he is injured again this season, I believe the Pistons can edge them out for third place. Indiana has too many assets to finish below second place, anything lower should be embarrassing for them. Give it a year or two and Detroit will be back to contending for 2nd or 3rd place consistently. Only if a monster trade happens or a young player explodes will Detroit exceed the year or two mark.

]]> By: Saul http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/12/pistons-5-on-5-on-espn/comment-page-1/#comment-38075 Saul Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:31:16 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/12/pistons-5-on-5-on-espn/#comment-38075 1. Ben Gordon. I'm tempted to put Stuckey here but I'll go with gordon. Ben had a phenomenal showing in the playoffs against Boston and got paid like a star. Now he seems like a shell of that player. Rip is gone, and a new coach who will have things organized and spelled out clearly mean Ben has no more excuses. Time for him to produce with steady minutes or fade away. 2. He may be a rookie but it's Brandon Knight. The kid wasn't the greatest point guard in college, but he's hardworking and has the IQ to learn point guard quickly. It'll be interesting to see where he ranks among rookies at season's end. Potentially a future star longterm for Detroit. 3/4. I am not an insider so did not read the profiles. However, I did see the piece on Tay being a deadly inside shooter. Not sure that helps any more than usual, Tay is a veteran and likely doesn't have an improving game to display. He's all he'll be at this point and so that stat from Hollinger doesn't mean too much, 5. Hurt. The Pistons have a lot of younger players who will need lots of playing time. Detroit can learn which youngsters are keepers and which ones can at least be used for trade assets. A shortened season makes gelling a young team together more difficult than it should be. 1. Ben Gordon. I’m tempted to put Stuckey here but I’ll go with gordon. Ben had a phenomenal showing in the playoffs against Boston and got paid like a star. Now he seems like a shell of that player. Rip is gone, and a new coach who will have things organized and spelled out clearly mean Ben has no more excuses. Time for him to produce with steady minutes or fade away.

2. He may be a rookie but it’s Brandon Knight. The kid wasn’t the greatest point guard in college, but he’s hardworking and has the IQ to learn point guard quickly. It’ll be interesting to see where he ranks among rookies at season’s end. Potentially a future star longterm for Detroit.

3/4. I am not an insider so did not read the profiles. However, I did see the piece on Tay being a deadly inside shooter. Not sure that helps any more than usual, Tay is a veteran and likely doesn’t have an improving game to display. He’s all he’ll be at this point and so that stat from Hollinger doesn’t mean too much,

5. Hurt. The Pistons have a lot of younger players who will need lots of playing time. Detroit can learn which youngsters are keepers and which ones can at least be used for trade assets. A shortened season makes gelling a young team together more difficult than it should be.

]]> By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/12/pistons-5-on-5-on-espn/comment-page-1/#comment-38073 tarsier Wed, 14 Dec 2011 05:41:09 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/12/pistons-5-on-5-on-espn/#comment-38073 So how do you explain his points per minute hitting such a sharp decline? And the decline in his efficiency. I think every Pistons fan would have been fine with Gordon's production being dialed down to match his minutes. And given the poor play of Rip, Gordon would have gotten more minutes if he was producing. So how do you explain his points per minute hitting such a sharp decline? And the decline in his efficiency. I think every Pistons fan would have been fine with Gordon’s production being dialed down to match his minutes. And given the poor play of Rip, Gordon would have gotten more minutes if he was producing.

]]> By: ryan http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/12/pistons-5-on-5-on-espn/comment-page-1/#comment-38072 ryan Wed, 14 Dec 2011 04:24:19 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/12/pistons-5-on-5-on-espn/#comment-38072 1 Ben Gordon needs to show something this season because as of now he's a paid like an all-star but he's too small, too slow and too unskilled to even be a starter. He was crap in Chicago too but he chucked up a enough shots to obscure that fact from many observers. Unless he can start hitting again to distract from his crap overall game his reputation is done. I'm betting he can't and still pissed that Joe Dumars ever signed him. 2 Jonas Jerebko-will he take the next step/Brandon Knight-is he a point guard/Tayshaun Prince-why did he come back, is he going to lead? It'll be an interesting season and a positive one if these three can find good answers to these questions. 3 I don't read John Hollinger either but when I have his analysis has seemed pretty weak to me.   4 Athleticism and commitment to defense are the biggest needs right now though leadership would also be very, very valuable. Actually check that the biggest need is for Joe Dumars to stop with this stupid notion of trying to make the playoffs this season. The team should treat this whole year like training camp using games to try out lineups learn plays and develop the team. 5 The shortened season makes no difference. 1 Ben Gordon needs to show something this season because as of now he’s a paid like an all-star but he’s too small, too slow and too unskilled to even be a starter. He was crap in Chicago too but he chucked up a enough shots to obscure that fact from many observers. Unless he can start hitting again to distract from his crap overall game his reputation is done. I’m betting he can’t and still pissed that Joe Dumars ever signed him.

2 Jonas Jerebko-will he take the next step/Brandon Knight-is he a point guard/Tayshaun Prince-why did he come back, is he going to lead? It’ll be an interesting season and a positive one if these three can find good answers to these questions.

3 I don’t read John Hollinger either but when I have his analysis has seemed pretty weak to me.
 
4 Athleticism and commitment to defense are the biggest needs right now though leadership would also be very, very valuable. Actually check that the biggest need is for Joe Dumars to stop with this stupid notion of trying to make the playoffs this season. The team should treat this whole year like training camp using games to try out lineups learn plays and develop the team.

5 The shortened season makes no difference.

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