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Archive → December, 2011

Keith Bogans interests Pistons

Aggrey Sam of Comcast SportsNet Chicago:

Heard Detroit expressed some interest in former Bull Keith Bogans

The Pistons don’t really need another shooting guard, and I really hope they don’t sign Bogans just to add another player to the roster. There are certainly big-man free agents who can at least compete with Vernon Macklin.

Optimistically, maybe the Pistons are inquiring about Bogans’ interest in case they trade a shooting guard for a non-shooting guard.

Austin Daye to fine himself for negativity

Vince Ellis of the Detroit Free Press:

Daye has admitted in the past to dwelling on mistakes and he said those negative thoughts crept into his head Tuesday night. But he said he has figured out the remedy.

"Me and my friends have just come up with something now," Daye said. "We’re going to get a big jar and every time I clap my hands after a bad play I have to put $5 in the jar. But I told them if I hit a three, I get to deduct a dollar."

What an awesome plan.

Disregard what I said the other day about the national perception of the Pistons

After the first couple Pistons season previews on national sites were less than flattering, I assumed that would be a trend. But check out what Zack Lowe of Sports Illustrated had to say:

Did you know the Pistons had a better offense last season, in terms of points per possession, than Boston, Memphis, Philadelphia and Atlanta? Detroit turned into a decent scoring team, and though it couldn’t guard anyone (especially inside), I’ll admit a fondness for the wacky pieces here, even with all the positional overlap. The Pistons got fair value on Rodney Stuckey and Tayshaun Prince, and they’ll provide some stability — on movable contracts — as all the young guys (Brandon Knight, Jonas Jerebko, Austin Daye, Greg Monroe) develop.

Monroe should improve as a pick-and-roll defender as he learns passing angles, and it will be fun to see how new head coach Lawrence Frank mixes up his personnel. Frank has historically improved his team’s defense, and if he can manage that here without any regression on the other end, Detroit should be a decent team by the end of the season.

Lowe categorized the Pistons in his “Lottery Bound – Fun Division” grouping of teams. I’ll take that. And after two preseason games, although I have no illusions that the team will be very good this year, I am excited by the creativity Lawrence Frank is showing with his lineups.

Jake Voskuhl, Walker Russell Jr. and Brian Hamilton waived by Pistons

Dave Pemberton of The Oakland Press:

#Pistons waive Jake Voskuhl, Brian Hamilton and Walker Russell Jr.

This is no surprise, considering the trio played just 14 combined preseason minutes – all of them by Hamilton yesterday. The three were training-camp invites only, longshots to make the roster.

That leaves the Pistons with the league-minimum 13 players, including Damien Wilkins and Vernon Macklin. Barring another signing or trade, those two are basically locks to make the opening-night roster. The question now is which player will begin the season on the reserve list.

If you want to talk to Ben Wallace, you’ll have to make an appointment

Why Ben Wallace is great, via Vince Ellis of the Detroit Free Press:

Ben Wallace said at Tuesday’s shoot-around before the exhibition finale at Cleveland fans won’t catch him on Twitter — Facebook either.

“I don’t Twitter,” Wallace said at Quicken Loans Arena. “If you want to talk to me, you got to come see me. That’s why I don’t need Twitter.”

Fourth-quarter toughness returns in Pistons win over Cleveland

For the second straight preseason game, the Pistons looked out of sync defensively, exhibited poor shot selection and talent-wise looked to be on par with a Cleveland team that was the league’s bottom feeder last season. But I don’t care about any of that for the moment. For the first time in what seems like years, the Pistons showed toughness down the stretch in a close game and came from behind to win on the road. That was not a common occurrence in the John Kuester era, and I know this game doesn’t count, so I’ll try not to get too exuberant.

After getting beat on the glass by Cleveland Saturday, the Pistons out-rebounded the Cavs 46-43 tonight, and a big reason why is their guards were unafraid to mix it up. Brandon Knight, Will Bynum and Rodney Stuckey all crashed the defensive glass in the fourth quarter, pulling in multiple rebounds to help the Pistons erase a Cleveland lead. Bynum also made a nice play to get an offensive rebound and put-back on a Greg Monroe miss to cut the lead to one with :08 seconds left.

The Pistons made two impressive defensive plays on attempted in-bounds plays late. After Bynum cut the lead to one, the defense forced Cleveland to use a timeout as the Cavs couldn’t get the ball in-bounds under the basket. Then, after the timeout, Cleveland again struggled to get the ball in and a bad Luke Harangody pass was deflected and stolen by Knight.

Bynum pushed the ball up and, in non-Bynum like fashion, made the right decision by slowing up a bit and hitting a cutting Austin Daye, who was fouled and went to the line for what proved to be the game-winning free throws. I’d grown so used to seeing Bynum attack the basket on similar plays so often that it surprised me he didn’t get tunnel vision and had the awareness to look for the trailing Daye.

Lawrence Frank drew up two nice plays late in the game out of timeouts that got the Pistons good shots. On one, Monroe caught the ball in the post and found Knight for an open three with a nice cross-court pass. Knight missed the shot, which would’ve put the Pistons up one with :14 seconds left, but it was as open a look late in the game as any team could ask for. The second play resulted in Monroe catching the ball near the basket with only one defender to beat. Although Monroe took an awkward looking shot, the way everyone had cleared out on the play allowed Bynum to sneak in and get the offensive board.

It was far from a flawless performance — a defensive miscommunication on Cleveland’s final play resulted in a wide open 10-footer for Harangody, but he missed at the buzzer. At this point though, no one is expecting close to flawless out of the Pistons. After watching the team the last three seasons, most fans will simply be satisfied with effort and toughness on a night to night basis. Tonight was a step in the right direction.

Austin Daye is going to play a lot

Regardless of which lead guard is on the floor — Stuckey, Knight or Bynum — Daye’s presence on the court makes them better. Daye was, at times, a train wreck tonight, particularly when he tried to take more than a couple of dribbles. When the ball isn’t in his hands, though, he makes all three of Detroit’s penetrating guards more dangerous. All three have a tendency to attack the basket even when a shot isn’t there and all three tend to get caught in situations where the passing angles aren’t great. Daye helps alleviate this a bit. He frequently gets himself into position to catch and shoot quickly and, at 6-foot-11, he’s an easier target to hit with a wild pass than a diminutive perimeter player like Ben Gordon, for example.

Through two preseason games, Daye has had moments where he looked lost. He’s also scored a relatively effortless looking 18.5 points per game. Daye will make plenty of mistakes this season, but the Pistons are clearly going to need his offense and shooting quite often.

Greg Monroe’s offense is a work in progress

Monroe looked incredibly uncomfortable with his back to the basket. His footwork was awkward. He’s not quite strong enough to back his man all the way to the basket and he’s not quite athletic enough to catch and make quick, explosive moves to either shoot over or go around his defender. He seemed much more comfortable catching the ball away from the basket where he can face up. He moves much faster and makes more decisive moves with the ball when he’s facing or in the high post than when the Pistons try to go to him deep inside.

His defensive rebounding was solid for the second straight game, but he was surprisingly shut out on the offensive glass. He had at least one offensive rebound in all but six games after November last season when his workload increased, so hopefully this is nothing to be concerned about. Also, on the positive side, his free throw stroke looks much better this season. He seems more relaxed at the line and he was getting more arc on his shot. If his form looks that good all season, he’ll shoot much better than the 62 percent mark he had at the line as a rookie.

The leadership question

There were two players whose body language I paid close attention to tonight: Knight and Tayshaun Prince. For Prince, the reasoning is pretty simple. He hated the disarray of the last two seasons and hated the losing. Although he played consistently most of the season, his frustrations were clearly visible in his body language. There were times he glared at young teammates who made silly mistakes in games. There were times he yelled at John Kuester when he made mistakes. There were times when he just looked really disinterested.

I didn’t see those things tonight. I know this was just the first preseason game. I know that, after signing a generous extension, Prince should have nothing to be displeased about. But this is something that will be important to watch this season. Prince is one of the most intelligent players in the NBA, and if he’s actively engaged with his young teammates, teaching them the game, teaching them the correct defensive rotations or just little nuances that he has understood so well from his experience playing on championship level teams, he’ll become an extremely valuable resource. Tonight, he was engaged, he was talking to young teammates on the bench, he was greeting teammates as they came back to the bench for timeouts and he genuinely looked much happier than he has looked in years.

As for Knight, part of earning minutes at point guard on any team is earning the trust and support of teammates. I don’t know how vocal he is, but his toughness and energy was infectious. His hands were in passing lanes. He was diving on the floor. He was pushing the pace. He was looking to distribute and set up shots for teammates. With Prince, Ben Wallace and a few others on the team, the need for Knight to be vocally assertive isn’t a pressing one. His shot selection was questionable and he made a few errant passes, but if his style and energy can rub off on teammates in a positive way when he’s on the court as it did tonight, he’s going to play big minutes, whether he’s making mistakes or not.

Macklin makes his case

If the Pistons were not so thin up front, Vernon Macklin would be an even longer shot to make the team than he already is as a late second-round pick. But as we know, the team has little depth up front and one of their veteran bigs, Jason Maxiell, didn’t play well tonight, grabbing just three rebounds and turning the ball over three times in just over 20 minutes. Macklin, on the other hand, hustled, grabbed five rebounds and didn’t make too many mistakes in his first extended minutes with the Pistons. If Macklin can hustle and rebound, that will be enough to get a few minutes a game on this team. Wallace will be limited this season because of his age. Maxiell has not yet shown that his massive decline last season was a fluke. Jonas Jerebko fouled out for the second straight game. Minutes are there for the taking if Macklin can make positive plays when he gets chances.

The guard picture

There were several things to like about the way the guards played for the Pistons tonight. Knight was aggressive. Bynum, Knight and Stuckey helped on the glass. Stuckey was a monster attacking the basket, getting to the line and making 10 free throws. And Frank showed a lot of creativity with the lineup. I don’t know if Frank will ever use a Bynum-Knight-Stuckey three guard lineup during the regular season because the trio will have obvious defensive problems, but they sure did give the Pistons a surge of energy for a few minutes tonight. They are three of the faster guards in the league, all three are fearless (sometimes to a fault) when attacking the basket and all three, although not great defenders, can use their quickness to get in passing lanes and Knight and Stuckey have long arms that bother smaller opposing guards.

If those three, along with Daye, are getting heavy minutes and being used interchangeably during the season, I think the Pistons will be fun to watch, even if they’ll be a little erratic. The problem is Ben Gordon was missing, and there’s no telling how many minutes he’s going to get as the team’s highest-paid player during the season. I don’t think anyone watching tonight’s game missed Gordon all that much with the tenacity Knight, Bynum and Stuckey played with.

Rodney Stuckey, Austin Daye jockey for regular-season playing time against Cavs

Essentials

  • Teams: Detroit Pistons at Cleveland Cavaliers
  • Date: Dec. 20,  2011
  • Time: 7 p.m.
  • Television: Fox Sports Detroit

Records

  • Pistons: 0-1 preseason
  • Cavaliers: 1-0 preseason

Probable starters

Pistons:

Cavaliers:

  • Ramon Sessions
  • Anthony Parker
  • Alonzo Gee
  • Antawn Jamison
  • Anderson Varejao

Las Vegas projection

Spread: Pistons +3

Over/under: 188

Score: Cavaliers win, 95.5-92.5

Three things to watch

1. Rodney Stuckey 

Stuckey is reportedly in good shape, and tonight should give us an idea of how rusty he is after missing the start of training camp during his contract negotiation.

2. Austin Daye at shooting guard

Daye will start at shooting guard, according to Vincent Goodwill of The Detroit News. Like Patrick, I think Daye’s best long-term position is shooting guard. After an up-and-down preseason opener, Daye could show he deserves a spot in the rotation – at shooting guard – with a strong performance tonight.

3. Surprise minutes

With this being the final game before the regular season, this will be Lawrence Frank’s last chance to audition the players he doesn’t already have a firm grasp on. That means borderline starters, borderline rotation players and borderline roster keepers should see extended minutes. 

Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva will miss the game for personal reasons, and Prince will rest the second half, according to Goodwill. That will free more minutes for Frank to dole out to the unknowns.

Rodney Stuckey’s contract, delays, doesn’t solve Pistons’ dilemma

Rodney Stuckey signed a three-year, $25 million contract, which seems perfectly fair, because it will almost certainly be completely unfair.

Stuckey is just as likely to outplay the deal as he is to become Joe Dumars’ latest mistake. Three years and $25 million a great compromise between the five years and $40 million that the Pistons reportedly offered and the $10 million  per year Stuckey supposedly wanted. In theory, both sides will get a chance to learn more about each other.

But this won’t be any easier in 2014.

The way I see it, there are three possibilities if Stuckey becomes a Pistons free agent in three years – none of which would place Detroit in ideal position.

1. Stuckey underperforms. This is pretty self-explanatory. The Pistons can’t really afford to have another* one of its players, especially their second-highest-paid player, have his production fall below his salary.

*Have I mentioned Detroit’s three(!) amnesty candidates?

2. Stuckey takes the next step and become a star. In the short term, that would be great. But in three years, unlike this time, Stuckey would have leverage as an unrestricted free agent. There are strong signs he wants out, and the Pistons only option for keeping him could very well be to overpay.

3. Stuckey plays like an $8.3 million-per-season player. He hasn’t done that yet, so it would take modest improvements. But that’s what Stuckey does: make modest improvements without reaching star status.

PER isn’t a perfect stat, but it gives a rough approximation of a player’s value. Stuckey’s PER has risen each year he’s been in the league, from 2007-08 to 2010-11.

Just 11 other players have had their PER rise between each of those seasons. In reputation and compensation, they’re much better off that Stuckey:

  • Al Horford (five years, $60 million in 2010)
  • Tyrus Thomas (five years, $40 million in 2010)
  • Joakim Noah (five years, $60 million in 2010)
  • Nene (five years, $67.5 million in 2011)
  • Kyle Lowry (four years, $23.46 million in 2010)
  • Luis Scola (five years, $47,041,037 in 2010)
  • Pau Gasol (three years, $57 million in 2009)
  • Tony Allen (three years, $9.45 million in 2009)
  • Zach Randolph (four years, $66 million in 2011)
  • Andrea Bargnani (five years, $50 million in 2009)
  • Wilson Chandler (4.5 years, $33 million*)

*The average of estimates by Kalen Deremo and Jeremy Wagner of Roundball Mining Company for the contract Chandler, who signed during the lockout to play in China, would receive now as an NBA free agent.

On average, that’s 4.4 years and $46.7 million – likely in line with what Stuckey would seek with his next contract if continues to make modest improvements without reaching the next level. Is a non-star really worth that?

Hopefully, the Pistons won’t have to answer that question, or deal with the other two possibilities. With the handcuffs off, Dumars should do what he couldn’t do leading up to Stuckey’s first free agency: trade him.

That will be easier if Brandon Knight develops into a top-flight point guard and because Stuckey didn’t accept the qualifying offer, which would have given him a no-trade clause.

The Pistons were in a lose-lose situation with Stuckey now – either keep a less-than-stellar fit or let a talented player walk for nothing. They’re headed down the same path again. This time, they have a chance to do something about it, and they should.

Trade Stuckey before his contract ends.

Is shooting guard Rodney Stuckey’s best position?

With Rip Hamilton gone and Brandon Knight the point guard of the future, Rodney Stuckey is sure to get minutes at both guard spots this season. In fact, many fans would like to see Stuckey become primarily a shooting guard. Mike Payne at Detroit Bad Boys gives some thoughts on Stuckey as a two:

Here’s the thing fans should come to grips with before the season starts: Rodney Stuckey is not the answer at shooting guard. His title as a “combo guard” relates to his inability to fit into a modern NBA position, it does not suggest an ability to adequately produce at multiple positions. His size advantage is lost at the two, and without the ball in his hand, he’s an offensive liability as well. The idea that Stuckey might work at shooting guard has been passed around by fans for years now, but sadly, it just isn’t reflected in this player’s style or body of work. If Stuckey’s past performance at shooting guard continues this year, let’s hope Lawrence Frank is quick to adjust for the sake of the team and the fans that support it.

That basically sums up how I feel about Stuckey. As a point guard, despite so-so results at the position in his career, he still has an elite mix of size, strength and quickness for the position. He’s bigger and stronger than most ones he will face and he’s gotten better and better at drawing contact against small players. At shooting guard? His skillset is more average among NBA twos. That doesn’t mean Stuckey is a bad player or can’t be effective at the two for stretches, but Payne is right: to this point in his career, there is little evidence that Stuckey is the full-time answer at either position.

The caveat here, though, is that despite being in the league for four seasons, Stuckey has gotten a bit better each season and he’s still only 25-years-old. Personally, I still believe Stuckey’s best position is at the point, although if he becomes some sort of hybrid guard off the bench where he can come in and play the position where he can best use his physical advantages on a game-to-game basis that might be the ideal role for him.

Prepare for an onslaught of unflattering national previews of the Pistons

It should come as no surprise that the Pistons are not really on anyone’s national radar heading into the season. Young, intriguing players are either relatively quiet like Greg Monroe or still too raw (Brandon Knight, Austin Daye) to attract national buzz. The team didn’t have an eventful offseason, other than bringing back their own free agents (Jonas Jerebko, Tayshaun Prince, Rodney Stuckey) and parting ways with a player most expected would be gone in Rip Hamilton.

In short, there isn’t much that is noteworthy about the Pistons right now. I’m still excited to watch basketball again, but we should all be fairly ready for possible poor performances until the team proves otherwise. And we shouldn’t be surprised when the national previews reflect the malaise that has afflicted the franchise and fanbase over the last three years.

Here is Scott Carefoot from The Basketball Jones:

Seven years after the Pistons won their last NBA championship, I think the grace period for President of Basketball Operations Joe Dumars is over. He is a terrible GM and I have to wonder how much nostalgia for that title and his playing career in Detroit is keeping him employed in his current job.

Does Joe even understand that his team needs to rebuild? And if he knows this, does he know how to do it properly? Based on the contracts he just approved while re-signing Tayshaun Prince and Rodney Stuckey, I have a hard time believing that. Even if the Pistons improve their talent level with high draft picks, the cap-clogging contracts of Prince and Stuckey will hold them back for at least the next two seasons.

Youch. Kelly Dwyer at Yahoo!’s Ball Don’t Lie is no fan of some of Dumars’ moves, but expresses faith that he can get the team moving back in the right direction:

So, with a new owner, new facilities, and a coach that won’t be terrible? Who is to say that Dumars can’t get his house in order? That he won’t find a home for Prince or possibly Ben Gordon? He’ll likely dump Charlie Villanueva next year, he can’t exactly build around Greg Monroe but he can delineate trading situations with the best of them. This is someone, in spite of a half-decade of poorly-conceived moves and rash decisions, that can turn a franchise around.

He’s done it before, and after walking into a situation in 2001 that was not unlike this one. Joe Dumars is worth giving another chance to.