Comments on: DeAndre Jordan’s search for better offer will complicate potential Tayshaun Prince-for-Chris Kaman sign and trade

By: Chris

Chris — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:02:17 +0000

Found this nugget from the Detroit News: Here's how the clause works: Teams under the cap, like the Pistons, get to bid on amnestied players, and the team with the highest bid is the winner. From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20111208/SPORTS0102/112080404/Pistons-keep-low-profile-in-free-agent-market#ixzz1fxEfmLo0

By: Murph

Murph — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 14:14:38 +0000

“Jordan will only add to mediocre starters with big salaries.”
I’m coming to that conclusion also. Don’t get me wrong, I like Jordan. He’s a big body who can defend and rebound. But if we signed him, he would only make us only slightly better, but not good enough to contend. He would probably only make us good enough to miss out on some of those prime time first round draft choices, such as Drummond, Davis, Barnes, Sullinger, etc.

With that in mind, Joe should lay off the free agent market this year, go with the players we already have under contract, and be prepared to lose a lot of games, in order to improve our draft position.

By: frankie d

frankie d — Wed, 07 Dec 2011 19:53:35 +0000

tasier,
you do not think that monroe has elite-level offensive skills?

By: Jodi Jezz

Jodi Jezz — Wed, 07 Dec 2011 18:17:40 +0000

Lol, @Mike Payne!!! Lets wait till the season starts before we all start to sleep on Dumars…I think he’s going to make a good trade for us…He’s had 2yrs to think of something creative to do…

By: tarsier

tarsier — Wed, 07 Dec 2011 18:07:21 +0000

Th problem with Dumars is that he achieved the incredibly difficult and improbable task of winning an NBA championship with no franchise players but a bunch of fringe all-stars (who became actual all-stars because they were on a damn good team). Kudos to him. But now he seems to think that is a repeatable feat–it was a fluke, Joe, take the traditional approach of doing whatever it takes to get a superstar and then building around him. And more importantly, he seems to have forgotten why that worked in the first place. The 2000s Pistons were incredibly successful because they had very good players on mediocre player salaries. He tried to duplicate that by paying a guy like Ben Gordon 8 figures/yr. Even if Gordon turned out as well as predicted, that would not have led to the Pistons being a contender.

By: domnick

domnick — Wed, 07 Dec 2011 17:59:01 +0000

hmmm well if Pistons didn’t use MLE this season.. then we will have MLE for next season… am i correct?

since we can sign someone without touching the MLE then… why don’t we target some big names?

By: tarsier

tarsier — Wed, 07 Dec 2011 17:58:09 +0000

Why don’t we trade Gordon+Maxiell for Bosh? The salaries would be a match. smh

By: tarsier

tarsier — Wed, 07 Dec 2011 17:56:32 +0000

Your examples of big man pairings involve absolutely elite offensive players. And then you talk about the offense taking care of itself. Of course if you have Duncan or Sheed in his prime, the offense takes care of itself.

By: domnick

domnick — Wed, 07 Dec 2011 17:53:22 +0000

well my worry is… its not about RIP being Great Attitude or not.. but the crowded backcourt is still the problem.. we need to dump someone in the lineup instead of waiting for things to come… we need to act… instead of waiting out here and watching RIP being the good guy while our team still sucks for the entire shortened-season..

i hope we can do something more valuable aside from Sign and Trade…

By: frankie d

frankie d — Wed, 07 Dec 2011 17:21:51 +0000

the most important factor, when pairing big guys, imho, is how they mesh defensively. the offense will usually take care of itself when one of those guys has a lot of skill. (eg, ben and sheed, duncan and the string of mediocre big guys he has played with over the last decade.) but if you have big guys who do not mesh defensively, your team will have a fatal hole at its most critical defensive area.
jordan not that good defensively?
have you watched the clippers much, when he has played?
as a west coaster living in a western conference nba city – portland – i’ve seen a lot of him. i would strongly argue against that idea.
at his best, he is a lot like tyson chandler, when chandler was younger and much more athletic. he is not the rebounder that chandler is – he still chases shots and players and ends up away from the basket often – he does get a lot of tough, in traffic rebounds because of his hops and his excellent hands. he gets some of those dennis rodman rebounds where he just takes the ball away from the guy who is right there in position to grab it. he still has to actually learn more about playing defense on his own guy, but he is extremely active and disruptive and when he was on his game and out of foul trouble, his defense keyed LA’s impressive transition game. he was the big reason gordon and griffin and bledsoe and aminu got all of those transition open jumpers and those pretty dunks. yes, he is still learning and is still somewhat inconsistent, but right now he is a good/sometimes very good defensive center and in time he could become a dominant defender.