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		<title>By: Kris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New rule suppose to keep players in college for 2 years. If that is the case 2012 class will be a little shorter, still pretty loaded with PF, Cs though. The thing is Pistons probably won&#039;t be that bad to get game changer as, say top 5 pick. So waiting for the right opportunity to trade is what I see happening. I would sign Chuck Hayes as FA - cheap, veteran, great work ethic, defensive minded, helps protect the paint, even though awfully undersized. Can slide to the bench in a future and will still have some good years left in him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New rule suppose to keep players in college for 2 years. If that is the case 2012 class will be a little shorter, still pretty loaded with PF, Cs though. The thing is Pistons probably won&#8217;t be that bad to get game changer as, say top 5 pick. So waiting for the right opportunity to trade is what I see happening. I would sign Chuck Hayes as FA &#8211; cheap, veteran, great work ethic, defensive minded, helps protect the paint, even though awfully undersized. Can slide to the bench in a future and will still have some good years left in him.</p>
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		<title>By: tarsier</title>
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		<dc:creator>tarsier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 04:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would probably take at least two first rounders two make such a trade work. And I still don&#039;t know if I pull the trigger if I&#039;m Utah. Just think about how many players there are in each draft who are better than Jefferson (maybe 5). Terrico White has virtually no value at this point. To think that by involving a third team, the Pistons could send him out instead of a firsty is ludicrous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would probably take at least two first rounders two make such a trade work. And I still don&#8217;t know if I pull the trigger if I&#8217;m Utah. Just think about how many players there are in each draft who are better than Jefferson (maybe 5). Terrico White has virtually no value at this point. To think that by involving a third team, the Pistons could send him out instead of a firsty is ludicrous.</p>
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		<title>By: D_S_V</title>
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		<dc:creator>D_S_V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 01:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PREACH!

I don&#039;t think adding Nene, Millsap, Jefferson, or even Jordan would do us any good but keep us in the mediocrity circle. I can&#039;t remember what phrase was coined during last summer, but I am a firm believer that adding marginal players via free agency or trade (which is all that is available and all that the Piston&#039;s can really trade for while keeping Monroe and Knight) will keep us just out of the playoffs and too far from a good lottery pick. I say we focus on shedding BG, CV, Rip, take our bruises, and add in the next draft which should be pretty stocked. Since those 3 contracts, &quot;Joe D&#039;s hands have been tied&quot; and we haven&#039;t been able to properly evacuate this awful roster. So while we suffered through the last few seasons (JJ and Monroe being the lone bright spots), we still have more suffering to do, only hopefully this time Joe D can make some moves to set us up for the FUTURE. There is no way we are beating the Heat any time soon, so I say forget any trades that add contracts, money, and only enough wins to screw us over in the lottery. The upcoming draft looks to be &lt;strong&gt;very &lt;/strong&gt;talented, so let&#039;s not decrease our odds to watch Nene line up in a Pistons uniform and lead us to an almost .500 season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PREACH!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think adding Nene, Millsap, Jefferson, or even Jordan would do us any good but keep us in the mediocrity circle. I can&#8217;t remember what phrase was coined during last summer, but I am a firm believer that adding marginal players via free agency or trade (which is all that is available and all that the Piston&#8217;s can really trade for while keeping Monroe and Knight) will keep us just out of the playoffs and too far from a good lottery pick. I say we focus on shedding BG, CV, Rip, take our bruises, and add in the next draft which should be pretty stocked. Since those 3 contracts, &#8220;Joe D&#8217;s hands have been tied&#8221; and we haven&#8217;t been able to properly evacuate this awful roster. So while we suffered through the last few seasons (JJ and Monroe being the lone bright spots), we still have more suffering to do, only hopefully this time Joe D can make some moves to set us up for the FUTURE. There is no way we are beating the Heat any time soon, so I say forget any trades that add contracts, money, and only enough wins to screw us over in the lottery. The upcoming draft looks to be <strong>very </strong>talented, so let&#8217;s not decrease our odds to watch Nene line up in a Pistons uniform and lead us to an almost .500 season.</p>
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		<title>By: Coach_Ackley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coach_Ackley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 21:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and by the way this is from Hoops World.......
 
 
 &quot;Kyle Singler, the 33rd overall pick in the June NBA draft, is nearing an agreement with Real Madrid and won’t play for the Detroit Pistons this season, sources told Yahoo! Sports.
Singler, a forward out of Duke, will sign a contract for the remainder of the season in the Spanish ACB League, replacing the Dallas Mavericks’ Rudy Fernandez on the Real Madrid roster&quot;...   So there you have it we might be down a SF.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and by the way this is from Hoops World&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p> &#8220;Kyle Singler, the 33rd overall pick in the June NBA draft, is nearing an agreement with Real Madrid and won’t play for the Detroit Pistons this season, sources told Yahoo! Sports.<br />
Singler, a forward out of Duke, will sign a contract for the remainder of the season in the Spanish ACB League, replacing the Dallas Mavericks’ Rudy Fernandez on the Real Madrid roster&#8221;&#8230;   So there you have it we might be down a SF&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Coach_Ackley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coach_Ackley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 21:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well all I know is most of you are missing the point.. Outside of DeAndre Jordan I would not sign another young player reason being is if the NBA leaves the one-and-done this draft will be loaded with future stars at the PF spot and if the Pistons was going to trade for Millsap they would want a first round pick in the deal the only way I trade for Millsap would be if we could lottery protect the pick but Utah would not go for that.. They are rebuilding and will want a HIGH pick in return and if you none have noticed we ARE heading for the lottery again... So why not draft our next great PF......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well all I know is most of you are missing the point.. Outside of DeAndre Jordan I would not sign another young player reason being is if the NBA leaves the one-and-done this draft will be loaded with future stars at the PF spot and if the Pistons was going to trade for Millsap they would want a first round pick in the deal the only way I trade for Millsap would be if we could lottery protect the pick but Utah would not go for that.. They are rebuilding and will want a HIGH pick in return and if you none have noticed we ARE heading for the lottery again&#8230; So why not draft our next great PF&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: frankie d</title>
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		<dc:creator>frankie d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 20:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@detroitpcb,
if millsap is a starter quality big forward why did they make a trade for a bigger, younger player - favors - while they are in the middle of an expensive contract with millsap, one that pays him starter&#039;s money.  (one in which, by the way, they&#039;ve already taken the major hit financially, because it was frontloaded when portland made its offer, as a way of trying to prevent utah from matching it.)  and then put millsap on the market?
and they brought favors in right after bringing in another f/c in jefferson.   (while they already are paying their starting center 10 million.)  millsap has problems with more than a couple of the PFs.  he has a problem with any of the bigger, better ones.  and the bigger, better ones tend to play on the better teams.  so you are basically conceding that you have a disadvantage, at that crucial position, against the better teams, when you start millsap as your 4.  i live in a western conference city -  portland - and watch lots of utah basketball.
i love paul millsap and was sorry when utah matched portland&#039;s offer sheet cause i love to watch him play.  he does have a great heart.  but the only reason he lasted until the second round, the only reason that he isn&#039;t making 15 million dollars a year, the only reason his current team is replacing him as the team&#039;s starting PF is because he is a classic tweener, a guy who is just a little to small to play consistently against the top guys at that position.
too bad, cause he is such a nice player.  but why would i bring a guy in, looking to establish him as my starter, when everyone understands his limitations?  and when you are probably going to try to replace him with a bigger guy the minute he comes to the team?
if you want to bring him  in as a bench guy, great.  but bringing him in with the expectation that he will be the starter at the 4 spot doesn&#039;t make sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@detroitpcb,<br />
if millsap is a starter quality big forward why did they make a trade for a bigger, younger player &#8211; favors &#8211; while they are in the middle of an expensive contract with millsap, one that pays him starter&#8217;s money.  (one in which, by the way, they&#8217;ve already taken the major hit financially, because it was frontloaded when portland made its offer, as a way of trying to prevent utah from matching it.)  and then put millsap on the market?<br />
and they brought favors in right after bringing in another f/c in jefferson.   (while they already are paying their starting center 10 million.)  millsap has problems with more than a couple of the PFs.  he has a problem with any of the bigger, better ones.  and the bigger, better ones tend to play on the better teams.  so you are basically conceding that you have a disadvantage, at that crucial position, against the better teams, when you start millsap as your 4.  i live in a western conference city -  portland &#8211; and watch lots of utah basketball.<br />
i love paul millsap and was sorry when utah matched portland&#8217;s offer sheet cause i love to watch him play.  he does have a great heart.  but the only reason he lasted until the second round, the only reason that he isn&#8217;t making 15 million dollars a year, the only reason his current team is replacing him as the team&#8217;s starting PF is because he is a classic tweener, a guy who is just a little to small to play consistently against the top guys at that position.<br />
too bad, cause he is such a nice player.  but why would i bring a guy in, looking to establish him as my starter, when everyone understands his limitations?  and when you are probably going to try to replace him with a bigger guy the minute he comes to the team?<br />
if you want to bring him  in as a bench guy, great.  but bringing him in with the expectation that he will be the starter at the 4 spot doesn&#8217;t make sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Jodi Jezz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jodi Jezz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 19:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would we trade for an undersized Millsap when he plays the same position as Monroe?..I also think Millsap would play more efficient off the bench...We should target a Center...
 
@Tarsier, we would probably have to involve a draft pick if we are interested in swapping Rip for Jefferson...We could also get creative and do a three-team trade involving Rip and Terrico White without a pick, that might work...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would we trade for an undersized Millsap when he plays the same position as Monroe?..I also think Millsap would play more efficient off the bench&#8230;We should target a Center&#8230;<br />
 <br />
@Tarsier, we would probably have to involve a draft pick if we are interested in swapping Rip for Jefferson&#8230;We could also get creative and do a three-team trade involving Rip and Terrico White without a pick, that might work&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: detroitpcb</title>
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		<dc:creator>detroitpcb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 18:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about Nene? I would much rather have him than haywood. he is going to leave Denver and i do not think he will get a max deal. Maybe we could move CV and Ben Gordon for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about Nene? I would much rather have him than haywood. he is going to leave Denver and i do not think he will get a max deal. Maybe we could move CV and Ben Gordon for him.</p>
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		<title>By: detroitpcb</title>
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		<dc:creator>detroitpcb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 18:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Milsap is a starter at the 4 spot. He will score 15 points a night, give you 8 boards a night, and play fine defense against most 4&#039;s. There are only a couple that he has trouble with. And he has a big heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Milsap is a starter at the 4 spot. He will score 15 points a night, give you 8 boards a night, and play fine defense against most 4&#8242;s. There are only a couple that he has trouble with. And he has a big heart.</p>
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		<title>By: frankie d</title>
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		<dc:creator>frankie d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>millsap is a very nice player, but what utah has recognized is that he is not a starter at the 3 or 4 spot.  he is a combo forward who can play either spot depending on matchups.
defensively he simply cannot guard the bigger power forwards. he has real problems whenever he matches up with those guys.  and he is simply not quick enough to guard small forwards and he doesn&#039;t have SF skills.
utah got into a bind when they matched the offer sheet that portland gave millsap a couple of years ago and now they want to get out from under that heavy contract now that they acquired derrick favors.
again, millsap is a very nice player, someone who is nice to have on a team, but he is not a starting forward.  he is a great off the bench guy.  which is why utah is trying to move him.  right now he makes too much money - as far as they are concerned - for that kind of player.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>millsap is a very nice player, but what utah has recognized is that he is not a starter at the 3 or 4 spot.  he is a combo forward who can play either spot depending on matchups.<br />
defensively he simply cannot guard the bigger power forwards. he has real problems whenever he matches up with those guys.  and he is simply not quick enough to guard small forwards and he doesn&#8217;t have SF skills.<br />
utah got into a bind when they matched the offer sheet that portland gave millsap a couple of years ago and now they want to get out from under that heavy contract now that they acquired derrick favors.<br />
again, millsap is a very nice player, someone who is nice to have on a team, but he is not a starting forward.  he is a great off the bench guy.  which is why utah is trying to move him.  right now he makes too much money &#8211; as far as they are concerned &#8211; for that kind of player.</p>
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