Comments on: Kyle Singler staying in Spain is good for the Pistons http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/11/kyle-singler-staying-in-spain-is-good-for-the-pistons/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Wed, 22 May 2013 21:16:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/11/kyle-singler-staying-in-spain-is-good-for-the-pistons/comment-page-1/#comment-37364 tarsier Thu, 01 Dec 2011 16:55:51 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/11/kyle-singler-staying-in-spain-is-good-for-the-pistons/#comment-37364 I understand the argument for roster spots, and there have been years when that seemed reasonable. But this year, who would you put in that spot instead? Granted, I am assuming that neither Prince nor McGrady comes back and that Dumars doesn't do something pointless like sign Dunleavy. Those are big assumptions, because they imply that Dumars is more interested in building a good team than in how many wins he can squeeze out this year. I understand the argument for roster spots, and there have been years when that seemed reasonable. But this year, who would you put in that spot instead? Granted, I am assuming that neither Prince nor McGrady comes back and that Dumars doesn’t do something pointless like sign Dunleavy. Those are big assumptions, because they imply that Dumars is more interested in building a good team than in how many wins he can squeeze out this year.

]]> By: ryan http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/11/kyle-singler-staying-in-spain-is-good-for-the-pistons/comment-page-1/#comment-37349 ryan Thu, 01 Dec 2011 13:21:49 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/11/kyle-singler-staying-in-spain-is-good-for-the-pistons/#comment-37349 <strong>"I do not want to watch Ben Gordon play for another season."</strong> <strong> </strong> I feel the same way. I didn't like Ben Gordon at UCONN, I didn't like him in Chicago and I can't stand him in Detroit I really want to see him gone but I hope we're patient enough to re-inflate his value and trade him instead of using the amnesty thing on him.<strong> </strong> “I do not want to watch Ben Gordon play for another season.”

I feel the same way. I didn’t like Ben Gordon at UCONN, I didn’t like him in Chicago and I can’t stand him in Detroit I really want to see him gone but I hope we’re patient enough to re-inflate his value and trade him instead of using the amnesty thing on him.

]]> By: ryan http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/11/kyle-singler-staying-in-spain-is-good-for-the-pistons/comment-page-1/#comment-37348 ryan Thu, 01 Dec 2011 13:18:03 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/11/kyle-singler-staying-in-spain-is-good-for-the-pistons/#comment-37348 I wouldn't like to see us tank necessarily but I would like to see us purposefully play our young guys heavy minutes because I think we need to see what we have in Austin Daye and Brandon Knight, how much Jonas Jeberko has come back and how Greg Monroe has developed over the lockout. Those guys should be on the floor most of the time and Terrico White and Vernon Macklin should also get heavy minutes. I expect that a side effect of this will be that we'll lose quite a few games but that makes sense too because as Murph mentioned it's a good year to be in the draft. I'd love it if we could move some of the garbage (Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva) and former greats (Tayshaun Prince and Richard Hamilton) for additional picks. In the draft itself I've got a lot of love for Jared Sullinger. He has his limitations but my gut feeling is that we'll be saying the same thing when he's being inducted into the hall of fame. The guy is just a ball player. Of course it'd be nice to have a rim protector to pair with Greg Monroe... I also feel like Terrence Jones could be our guy at small forward. I view Jonas Jeberko as a power forward and Austin Daye as a mistake (Jrue Holiday anyone???) so I think we'll have room for him. I wouldn’t like to see us tank necessarily but I would like to see us purposefully play our young guys heavy minutes because I think we need to see what we have in Austin Daye and Brandon Knight, how much Jonas Jeberko has come back and how Greg Monroe has developed over the lockout. Those guys should be on the floor most of the time and Terrico White and Vernon Macklin should also get heavy minutes.
I expect that a side effect of this will be that we’ll lose quite a few games but that makes sense too because as Murph mentioned it’s a good year to be in the draft. I’d love it if we could move some of the garbage (Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva) and former greats (Tayshaun Prince and Richard Hamilton) for additional picks.
In the draft itself I’ve got a lot of love for Jared Sullinger. He has his limitations but my gut feeling is that we’ll be saying the same thing when he’s being inducted into the hall of fame. The guy is just a ball player. Of course it’d be nice to have a rim protector to pair with Greg Monroe…
I also feel like Terrence Jones could be our guy at small forward. I view Jonas Jeberko as a power forward and Austin Daye as a mistake (Jrue Holiday anyone???) so I think we’ll have room for him.

]]> By: Adrià http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/11/kyle-singler-staying-in-spain-is-good-for-the-pistons/comment-page-1/#comment-37347 Adrià Thu, 01 Dec 2011 12:54:49 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/11/kyle-singler-staying-in-spain-is-good-for-the-pistons/#comment-37347 I don't understand one thing: what is useful for to have some free agents instead of our own guys? Maybe with Singler takes sense, 'cause Tay will probably leave, so we need some experienced guy at forward (maybe only to make Daye compit with him and play better), but we need a big man, and this signing free agents period is going to be crazy, so we need Vernon to fill the gap. The benefits of not having Stucey is that Pistons could sign a TRUE point guard and see how the team works with it, to see if the better option is to trade Stuckey for a good true point guard. But, by now, Stuckey is one of our better players (PPG and Asists give him some credit); ok, he's not great, but we now need him. And, of course, if he can get to his best level, he will be our reference, so not having him in China is either good or bad. It's just as before: mediocre and poor. I don’t understand one thing: what is useful for to have some free agents instead of our own guys? Maybe with Singler takes sense, ’cause Tay will probably leave, so we need some experienced guy at forward (maybe only to make Daye compit with him and play better), but we need a big man, and this signing free agents period is going to be crazy, so we need Vernon to fill the gap.
The benefits of not having Stucey is that Pistons could sign a TRUE point guard and see how the team works with it, to see if the better option is to trade Stuckey for a good true point guard. But, by now, Stuckey is one of our better players (PPG and Asists give him some credit); ok, he’s not great, but we now need him. And, of course, if he can get to his best level, he will be our reference, so not having him in China is either good or bad. It’s just as before: mediocre and poor.

]]> By: detroitpcb http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/11/kyle-singler-staying-in-spain-is-good-for-the-pistons/comment-page-1/#comment-37346 detroitpcb Thu, 01 Dec 2011 12:51:54 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/11/kyle-singler-staying-in-spain-is-good-for-the-pistons/#comment-37346 I believe you are wrong. Singler would have contributed this year with the Pistons. But getting 30 minutes a game in Spain is probably better than getting 15 minutes in the NBA at this point in his development so it should all work out. I am more concerned that we are not going to use our amnesty to clear up the mess at shooting guard. Hopefully that means some trades are going to be made. I do not want to watch Ben Gordon play for another season. I believe you are wrong. Singler would have contributed this year with the Pistons. But getting 30 minutes a game in Spain is probably better than getting 15 minutes in the NBA at this point in his development so it should all work out.

I am more concerned that we are not going to use our amnesty to clear up the mess at shooting guard. Hopefully that means some trades are going to be made. I do not want to watch Ben Gordon play for another season.

]]> By: Murph http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/11/kyle-singler-staying-in-spain-is-good-for-the-pistons/comment-page-1/#comment-37344 Murph Thu, 01 Dec 2011 12:05:52 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/11/kyle-singler-staying-in-spain-is-good-for-the-pistons/#comment-37344 "It seems like you’re possibly in favor of tanking this season in order to develop younger guys and in order to have another high pick, is that the case?" Tanking the season is not a bad strategy.  It's only a 66 game season anyway, and we probably won't make the playoffs regardless.  This will be the deepest NBA draft since 2004, and Lawrence Frank will get a free pass on the team's performance in his first year.  If ever tanking a season makes sense, this is the year for it. “It seems like you’re possibly in favor of tanking this season in order to develop younger guys and in order to have another high pick, is that the case?”

Tanking the season is not a bad strategy.  It’s only a 66 game season anyway, and we probably won’t make the playoffs regardless.  This will be the deepest NBA draft since 2004, and Lawrence Frank will get a free pass on the team’s performance in his first year. 

If ever tanking a season makes sense, this is the year for it.

]]> By: ryan http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/11/kyle-singler-staying-in-spain-is-good-for-the-pistons/comment-page-1/#comment-37339 ryan Thu, 01 Dec 2011 03:24:35 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/11/kyle-singler-staying-in-spain-is-good-for-the-pistons/#comment-37339 I see what you mean about the rosters spots but at least Vernon Macklin could fill a big need. If he's a solid defender and rebounder off the bench that's a huge value from a late draft pick and a good value form his roster spot. It seems like you're possibly in favor of tanking this season in order to develop younger guys and in order to have another high pick, is that the case? I see what you mean about the rosters spots but at least Vernon Macklin could fill a big need. If he’s a solid defender and rebounder off the bench that’s a huge value from a late draft pick and a good value form his roster spot.

It seems like you’re possibly in favor of tanking this season in order to develop younger guys and in order to have another high pick, is that the case?

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