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	<title>Comments on: Ben Wallace deserves a less-flattering image, jail time</title>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 19:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn spelling.  I meant &quot;Maybe I shoud rethink what&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn spelling.  I meant &#8220;Maybe I shoud rethink what&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 19:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next time all you drive tired remember Ben Wallace. Assuming his level is not like over .25 driving tired is just like driving drunk. Or what about driving and talking, texting, smoking and even changing the radio.

Drunk driving is wrong without a doubt but to me its a mistake not a defining moment in someones life.

Maybe a should rething my what I think of my Grandparents cause I bet everytime they get behind the wheel is just as dangerous and Ben Wallace was the other night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next time all you drive tired remember Ben Wallace. Assuming his level is not like over .25 driving tired is just like driving drunk. Or what about driving and talking, texting, smoking and even changing the radio.</p>
<p>Drunk driving is wrong without a doubt but to me its a mistake not a defining moment in someones life.</p>
<p>Maybe a should rething my what I think of my Grandparents cause I bet everytime they get behind the wheel is just as dangerous and Ben Wallace was the other night.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 19:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Patrick

You have your own fricken website. If you and Dan don&#039;t like some of the comments then don&#039;t allow us to make comments. The comments obviously bother you.

Freedom of speech is a two way street.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Patrick</p>
<p>You have your own fricken website. If you and Dan don&#8217;t like some of the comments then don&#8217;t allow us to make comments. The comments obviously bother you.</p>
<p>Freedom of speech is a two way street.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Feldman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Feldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 18:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;.08 is arbitrary in the sense that it&#039;s the same standard applied to everyone. Someone at .081 faces the same charges as someone at .33. Obviously, one is a much larger risk to society.

And there&#039;s certainly another side to the reliability of breathalyzers:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.carlcederlaw.com/Intoxilyzer-5000&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.carlcederlaw.com/Intoxilyzer-5000&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.08 is arbitrary in the sense that it&#8217;s the same standard applied to everyone. Someone at .081 faces the same charges as someone at .33. Obviously, one is a much larger risk to society.</p>
<p>And there&#8217;s certainly another side to the reliability of breathalyzers:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.carlcederlaw.com/Intoxilyzer-5000" rel="nofollow">http://www.carlcederlaw.com/Intoxilyzer-5000</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Feldman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Feldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 18:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;1. I think most Pistons fans view him in a very positive light.

2. I thought I included enough &quot;if the allegations are true&quot;s in the post, but one more just in case: &quot;if the allegations are true.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. I think most Pistons fans view him in a very positive light.</p>
<p>2. I thought I included enough &#8220;if the allegations are true&#8221;s in the post, but one more just in case: &#8221;if the allegations are true.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Feldman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Feldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 18:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ryan, you&#039;re arguing two different things as if they&#039;re one. Many people have driven after drinking. Much fewer have driven while drunk.

Mike Payne made that distinction very clear, and he fits into what I&#039;d guess is the most common crowd: those who manage how much they drink when they know they&#039;re driving.

Ryan, I suggest you look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.floridaduianswers.com/Blog/?p=11&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this chart&lt;/a&gt; to see the huge middle ground you&#039;re missing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan, you&#8217;re arguing two different things as if they&#8217;re one. Many people have driven after drinking. Much fewer have driven while drunk.</p>
<p>Mike Payne made that distinction very clear, and he fits into what I&#8217;d guess is the most common crowd: those who manage how much they drink when they know they&#8217;re driving.</p>
<p>Ryan, I suggest you look at <a href="http://www.floridaduianswers.com/Blog/?p=11" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">this chart</a> to see the huge middle ground you&#8217;re missing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Feldman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Feldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 18:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Exactly. Wallace is charged with violating some fairly moderate gun laws, not the more-intrusive hot-button laws.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly. Wallace is charged with violating some fairly moderate gun laws, not the more-intrusive hot-button laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Feldman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Feldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 17:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well said, neutes and tarsier.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, neutes and tarsier.</p>
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		<title>By: Murph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 15:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ummm...Mr.HappyMushroom...with a handle like that, you lose credibility when it comes to moralizing on legal matters.  Last time I looked, possession of psilocybin mushrooms was a criminal offense also.  

Or perhaps you were just making reference to shiitake mushrooms...because you enjoy them in your stir fry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummm&#8230;Mr.HappyMushroom&#8230;with a handle like that, you lose credibility when it comes to moralizing on legal matters.  Last time I looked, possession of psilocybin mushrooms was a criminal offense also.  </p>
<p>Or perhaps you were just making reference to shiitake mushrooms&#8230;because you enjoy them in your stir fry.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 15:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of things:

1.  A .08 isn&#039;t an arbitrary number.  Many studies, including ones commission by that National Safety Council, have determined that everyone in impaired at a .08.  That&#039;s the definitive line in which people failed enough elements of motor skills tests in order to sufficiently say they are impaired.

2.  .08 is what&#039;s called a per se statute.  If there is scientific data that survives defense challenges in court that says the defendant has a BAC (or breath alcohol concentration) above a .08, then the defendant can be convicted of DUI regardless of proving loss of motor skills.  It&#039;s a default measure where if you are measured at a .08, the court can automatically determine that you are impaired, regardless of any video evidence is presented.  

If under a .08, the prosecution can still charge someone with DWI, but they need to prove through standardized field sobriety tests and interactions with the officer that the driver was indeed impaired at the time of driving. 

3.  Breathalyzers are indeed reliable.  I think you are getting confused with two types.  One is a portable breath testing unit (PBUs), which are inadmissable in court in most (if not all) states.  That number can only be used as probable cause to make an arrest, but that number cannot be used to get a conviction in a court of law.  Breathalyzers (in many states, they use the Intoxilizer) that are admissable in court cost about $100K and require yearly operating training in most states.  These instruments are routinely calibrated and they have triggers for interferents, such as excess mouth alcohol or acetone (from untreated diabetics)- which renders the test void.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of things:</p>
<p>1.  A .08 isn&#8217;t an arbitrary number.  Many studies, including ones commission by that National Safety Council, have determined that everyone in impaired at a .08.  That&#8217;s the definitive line in which people failed enough elements of motor skills tests in order to sufficiently say they are impaired.</p>
<p>2.  .08 is what&#8217;s called a per se statute.  If there is scientific data that survives defense challenges in court that says the defendant has a BAC (or breath alcohol concentration) above a .08, then the defendant can be convicted of DUI regardless of proving loss of motor skills.  It&#8217;s a default measure where if you are measured at a .08, the court can automatically determine that you are impaired, regardless of any video evidence is presented.  </p>
<p>If under a .08, the prosecution can still charge someone with DWI, but they need to prove through standardized field sobriety tests and interactions with the officer that the driver was indeed impaired at the time of driving. </p>
<p>3.  Breathalyzers are indeed reliable.  I think you are getting confused with two types.  One is a portable breath testing unit (PBUs), which are inadmissable in court in most (if not all) states.  That number can only be used as probable cause to make an arrest, but that number cannot be used to get a conviction in a court of law.  Breathalyzers (in many states, they use the Intoxilizer) that are admissable in court cost about $100K and require yearly operating training in most states.  These instruments are routinely calibrated and they have triggers for interferents, such as excess mouth alcohol or acetone (from untreated diabetics)- which renders the test void.</p>
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