Comments on: Is Lawrence Frank the 21st best coach in the NBA? http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/08/is-lawrence-frank-the-21st-best-coach-in-the-nba/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Sun, 19 May 2013 00:43:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/08/is-lawrence-frank-the-21st-best-coach-in-the-nba/comment-page-1/#comment-34865 Patrick Hayes Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:06:41 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=7341#comment-34865 <p>FWIW, Gordon also is in that Twitter boat. He replied to a #FireQ tweet last year as well I believe.</p> FWIW, Gordon also is in that Twitter boat. He replied to a #FireQ tweet last year as well I believe.

]]> By: RyanK http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/08/is-lawrence-frank-the-21st-best-coach-in-the-nba/comment-page-1/#comment-34862 RyanK Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:45:20 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=7341#comment-34862 Wasn't last season Stuckey's 4th?   Daye showed several bad moments over his two years in Detroit...perhaps you're right, he's a follower, not a leader.   CV forwarding tweets and tweeting comments about Q over the past two seasons gives me the opinion he lacks professionalism and maturity.  He made didn't join the mutineers in Philly, but he has done some insubordinate things. Wasn’t last season Stuckey’s 4th?
 
Daye showed several bad moments over his two years in Detroit…perhaps you’re right, he’s a follower, not a leader.
 
CV forwarding tweets and tweeting comments about Q over the past two seasons gives me the opinion he lacks professionalism and maturity.  He made didn’t join the mutineers in Philly, but he has done some insubordinate things.

]]> By: rob http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/08/is-lawrence-frank-the-21st-best-coach-in-the-nba/comment-page-1/#comment-34860 rob Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:25:15 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=7341#comment-34860 A) Stuckey is barely a veteran, only having played 3 full seasons, and is a FA who does not need to return if they think he's such a problem. B) Daye is not a veteran, and probably has the best attitude besides Monroe on the whole team. If anything he was just a victim of influence, as a young player surrounded by malcontent vets last year. Like I said most of those vets are gone or will be gone. C) CV sucks but he's not a malcontent. If he doesnt follow coaches orders, like defend/rebound, its because he cant physically do them or he's lazy, not because he's trying to show up a coach, imo. Bottom line though is that they didn't hire him to coach these veterans. They hired him to coach the young players of the future, long-term. I've never heard of another situation in all of sports, where a new coach takes over a rebuilding team with lots of young talent, and its the old vets who are going to cause him to fail? That makes no sense whatsoever. They hired him to be the coach of the future, not the present. A) Stuckey is barely a veteran, only having played 3 full seasons, and is a FA who does not need to return if they think he’s such a problem.

B) Daye is not a veteran, and probably has the best attitude besides Monroe on the whole team. If anything he was just a victim of influence, as a young player surrounded by malcontent vets last year. Like I said most of those vets are gone or will be gone.

C) CV sucks but he’s not a malcontent. If he doesnt follow coaches orders, like defend/rebound, its because he cant physically do them or he’s lazy, not because he’s trying to show up a coach, imo.

Bottom line though is that they didn’t hire him to coach these veterans. They hired him to coach the young players of the future, long-term.

I’ve never heard of another situation in all of sports, where a new coach takes over a rebuilding team with lots of young talent, and its the old vets who are going to cause him to fail?

That makes no sense whatsoever. They hired him to be the coach of the future, not the present.

]]> By: Murph http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/08/is-lawrence-frank-the-21st-best-coach-in-the-nba/comment-page-1/#comment-34858 Murph Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:04:47 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=7341#comment-34858 21 seems about right for Frank.  I wonder where Woodson would have ranked on that list.   Probably higher than 21, based on the year the Hawks last season.  The Hawks had the 13th best record in the NBA. 21 seems about right for Frank. 

I wonder where Woodson would have ranked on that list.   Probably higher than 21, based on the year the Hawks last season.  The Hawks had the 13th best record in the NBA.

]]> By: RyanK http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/08/is-lawrence-frank-the-21st-best-coach-in-the-nba/comment-page-1/#comment-34857 RyanK Mon, 22 Aug 2011 13:57:39 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=7341#comment-34857 Exhibit A: Rodney Stuckey Exhibit B: Austin Daye Exhibit C: CV   Rip was right there helping Kuester before seasons end.  If you watched in the huddles, Rip was standing next to Kuester, point at the grease board, showing full support for the coach.   Stuckey on the other hand had several reported bad moments; but I saw him turn his back to the coach, throw his hands in the air, and roll his eyes in displays of disrespect.   Daye and CV were both suspended for incidents deemed internal matters.  Lets not forget CV will be gone the first 4 games of the season...thankfully that will give Detroit a better chance of starting on a 4 game win streak.  Tell me that jackwagon is easy to control. Exhibit A: Rodney Stuckey
Exhibit B: Austin Daye
Exhibit C: CV
 
Rip was right there helping Kuester before seasons end.  If you watched in the huddles, Rip was standing next to Kuester, point at the grease board, showing full support for the coach.
 
Stuckey on the other hand had several reported bad moments; but I saw him turn his back to the coach, throw his hands in the air, and roll his eyes in displays of disrespect.
 
Daye and CV were both suspended for incidents deemed internal matters.  Lets not forget CV will be gone the first 4 games of the season…thankfully that will give Detroit a better chance of starting on a 4 game win streak.  Tell me that jackwagon is easy to control.

]]> By: rob http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/08/is-lawrence-frank-the-21st-best-coach-in-the-nba/comment-page-1/#comment-34855 rob Mon, 22 Aug 2011 13:44:25 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=7341#comment-34855 21 is fair. He really hasnt proven himself yet as a head coach. Thats something I think he will do now with the Pistons, but until he does it, you cant really rank him very high. On a sidenote, I'm really tired of hearing national media say we have a bunch of malcontent veterans to control. IMO, whenever someone says that, its an immediate signal that they dont follow this team whatsoever, thus their opinion means nothing. Anyone who follows this team knows Tayshaun is not coming back and neither is McGrady. That leaves Rip as 1 malcontent veteran. Hardly an epidemic. And I'd bet he's gone too by the start of the next season.  So who are all these hard to control veterans we have on the team? 21 is fair. He really hasnt proven himself yet as a head coach. Thats something I think he will do now with the Pistons, but until he does it, you cant really rank him very high.

On a sidenote, I’m really tired of hearing national media say we have a bunch of malcontent veterans to control. IMO, whenever someone says that, its an immediate signal that they dont follow this team whatsoever, thus their opinion means nothing.

Anyone who follows this team knows Tayshaun is not coming back and neither is McGrady. That leaves Rip as 1 malcontent veteran. Hardly an epidemic. And I’d bet he’s gone too by the start of the next season. 

So who are all these hard to control veterans we have on the team?

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