Comments on: When the lockout ends, what signings/trades need to be made league wide?

By: Scott

Scott — Wed, 06 Jul 2011 23:18:07 +0000

All I know is this. I’ve visited countless trade rumor forums/sites over the last few months and I can tell you that just about EVERYONE views our highest paid players as major liabilities(ie; bad contracts). Therefore, thats the main reason why I don’t really think we have a chance to get Jefferson. I think Chicago is the only team we have a shot at dumping Hamiltons contract on because they do need a consistent veteran scorer at the 2. On the other side, Utah needs help at the shooting gaurd and has a cluttered frontcourt. So basically, If I had to find some way(just about AAANY way) to clear out our backcourt AS WELL AS save us some cap room, this 3-way deal would be it. Not saying it’s a perfect deal cuz it’s not, but I think it’s at least worth a try(or some variation of it).

By: Gregoire Wagner

Gregoire Wagner — Wed, 06 Jul 2011 14:14:00 +0000

I don´t think this scenario would be likely. Why should the Pistons give up Gordon, Hamilton, Maxiel and Daye for really just Milsap? Right, it would be nice to get rid of Max´s and Rip´s contract, but Korver and Brewer have practically no value for the Pistons. Okur would clear space for 2012 but can you see Dwight, CP3 or Derron Williams sign with the Pistons? Gordon should be given a chance to play a healthy Season in a System without Rip in front of him and I believe the Pistons see a key asset for the future in Austin Daye. In addition Milsap is an undersized Power Forward and Greg Monroe really is a Power Forward and not a Center at 6-10.The Pistons should be looking for a Center (but not one of the First-Class Free Agents that will all be overpaid). As I mentioned before I don´t see Jefferson as a perfect fit but I´d prefer him over Milsap.

By: Aruna

Aruna — Wed, 06 Jul 2011 06:57:59 +0000

About Miller, I don’t think he’s untouchable. The thought in that he might be tradable for a useful asset, considering that Kahn likes Darko and they have no-one at the 2-guard slot. If they like Gordon or Rip it could be a possibility. With Beasely, he’s a one year tryout of a player with immense talent. Chances are Tayshaun won’t be back and Daye seems a better fit for the bench. If it works, we’ve nabbed a player with star potential, if not we’ve cut $4 mil off the cap going into 2012.

I wouldn’t want to trade a first round pick either, but if Cleveland taking Rip and a first rounder, just to get him off the Pistons books is a legitimate offer, trading picks for salary relief seems to be on the table. At least this way we get some assets back.

By: Scott

Scott — Tue, 05 Jul 2011 16:02:42 +0000

Say what you will, but I still think this 3-way I came up with is AT LEAST worth a shot:

CHICAGO RECIEVES: Richard Hamilton, Terrico White, and Jeremy Evans
DETROIT RECIEVES: Paul Millsap, Kyle Korver, Ronnie Brewer, and Mehmet Okur
UTAH RECIEVES: Ben Gordon, Austin Daye, Jason Maxiell, CJ Watson, and 2 future 2nd round picks(from Detroit)

CHICAGOS NEW LINEUP:
C-Noah/Asik
PF-Boozer/Gibson/Evans
SF-Deng/Butler
SG-Hamilton/White/Bogans
PG-Rose/Pargo/Lucas
DETROITS NEW LINEUP(assuming we re-sign key guys Jerebko and Stuckey):
C-Monroe/Wallace/Okur
PF-Millsap/Villanueva
SF-Jerebko/Korver/Singler
SG-Stuckey/Brewer
PG-Knight/Bynum
UTAHS NEW LINEUP(assuming Kirilenko doesnt re-sign)
C-Jefferson/Kanter
PF-Favors/Maxiell
SF-Hayward/Daye/Bell
SG-Gordon/Burks
PG-Harris/Watson
(NOTE: I don’t see why Hayward couldnt possibly start for the Jazz next year. Dont forget that he was the 9th overall pick in 2010 and could be their SF of the future if Kirilenko bolts)

So there you go. What you think?

By: Scott

Scott — Tue, 05 Jul 2011 15:21:30 +0000

I see your point. But heres my thinking(just hear me out): If we have a lot of liabilities in our backcourt, than if we’re going to clean it out, we’re going to have to expect to get FRONTCOURT(possible) liabilities back in return. While I would not think the Wolves would give up Miller, I personally would be willing to take a deal BG/future(LOTTERY-PROTECTED) 1st rounder for Beasley/and either Nikola Pekovic or Martell Webster. Again, Minnesota needs help at their two-gaurd spot PLUS they need a solid veteran. While we need to get frontcourt help. Not saying that Minnesota would consider this deal(I still think one of my two Utah proposals would make more sense. See above), but I somewhat understand the logic of wanted to target Minnesota for a trade.

By: Gregoire

Gregoire — Tue, 05 Jul 2011 13:54:17 +0000

First, why should the Wolves give up a guy they just traded for? Second, why should the Pistons give away a First Round Pick for a Veteran Center they already have in Ben Wallace? Third, why should the Pistons want to get Michael Beasley who isn´t realy a Power Forward?
I still think it´s more likely that the Pistons part ways with Rip instead of Gordon who they think didn´t get the opportunity to play the way he should´ve…A three-guard rotation with Knight, Stuckey and Gordon should work well even if that menas that Bynum won´t see many minutes…The Rip-Jefferson Trade with Utah seems to be a win-win but I still think that this wouldn´t solve the Pistons Frontcourt-problems, still lacking a true Center…I thought with Arnie Kander on the Staff it could´ve been worth the Risk to try rejunivate Greg Oden´s Carrier but 8,8$ Mio is way to much…of the other possibilities on the Market there is no Center who would sign with the Pistons (can´t see one of them leave their Team for another who didn´t make the Playoffs 3 consecutive Years…

By: Scott

Scott — Tue, 05 Jul 2011 12:36:32 +0000

who would be the center for Washington? exactly, they wouldnt HAVE one. #fail

By: MrHappyMushroom

MrHappyMushroom — Tue, 05 Jul 2011 09:54:57 +0000

Are you crazy, man?! DeAndre Jordan? We drafter Walter Sharpe over him! That was such a great move. And why would we want Alflalo? A great defender with an increasingly deadly 3 point shot and a tremendous locker room presence? No, we got rid of that bad rubbish so that we could sign Ben Gordon to hurl balls at the hoop and watch the other team score. Gosh, you must be mentally ill to want players like these. Good thing you’re not our general manager.

By: Jay

Jay — Tue, 05 Jul 2011 07:00:41 +0000

How about a trade with the TWolves:Ben Gordon and a 1st Round pickforMichael Beasley and Brad Miller (who is believed to be done and Insurance will pick up his contract.This would give Detroit an 6’10″, 18 and 8 guy at power forward next to Monroe and would give them the flexibility to have Rip or Stuckey start at the 2 and have a nice 3 guard rotation along with Knight with Stuckey sliding to the 1 when he and rip are together.http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3ep4vxk

By: Jay

Jay — Tue, 05 Jul 2011 07:00:10 +0000

How about a trade with the TWolves:
Ben Gordon and a 1st Round pick
for
Michael Beasley and Brad Miller (who is believed to be done and Insurance will pick up his contract.

This would give Detroit an 6’10″, 18 and 8 guy at power forward next to Monroe and would give them the flexibility to have Rip or Stuckey start at the 2 and have a nice 3 guard rotation along with Knight with Stuckey sliding to the 1 when he and rip are together.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3ep4vxk