Comments on: Rating the NBA’s shooting guards

By: Murph

Murph — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:06:06 +0000

I have no idea what you’re rambling on about.

By: brgulker

brgulker — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:28:56 +0000

All of those a legitimate reasons for a player not liking a coach. But because Rip, individually isn’t as good as those players, he doesn’t have the right to complain when he gets incompetent coaches? For real?

The goal posts are moving. We were talking about players getting coaches fired, and now you’re talking about players having the right to complain.

I love a good debate, but it’s not a real debate if you keep changing the terms.

But, since we’re on the topic now, no, I don’t think players have the right to act like whiny little bitches because they don’t like their superiors any more than I do if I don’t like mine.

Professionalism 101.

By: brgulker

brgulker — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:25:28 +0000

There’s a difference between being one of the all-time best SGs and the GOAT. That’s what I was referencing.

No way Kobe is in my conversation for GOAT.

By: tarsier

tarsier — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:04:35 +0000

Why do so many people think Ellis is overrated? Sure he provides little besides scoring, but he scores effectively and efficiently. Like a better version of Kevin Martin or Jason Richardson.

By: tarsier

tarsier — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:01:27 +0000

I don’t think anyone disagrees that Rip has played some very fine basketball. They just disagree about the level he is on now and how much respect his game and name “deserves” now based on past accomplishments.

By: tarsier

tarsier — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:48:27 +0000

By the same token, when was the last time something positive was written about Hamilton? That’s why I don’t think he is absurdly overrated. Because I don’t think too many people think he is still all that good.

By: tarsier

tarsier — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:44:10 +0000

You really don’t think he is loyal to the truth as he sees it? What incentive does he have to straight up lie? Also, your comments, besides being the most insulting on this site, are often the most poorly written. It’s absurd to the point of a cliche. You are so sure that you know better than everyone else that you don’t back much up, you insult people for seeing things differently, and you make cringe-worthy errors all along the way. I’m sorry because this is the closest I’ve come to personally attacking someone on the internet. But every time “Jason” pops up in the comments, it markedly reduces my enjoyment of following the thoughts of Pistons fans.

By: tarsier

tarsier — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:37:35 +0000

I certainly agree that Wade is better than Kobe. But his career to date is definitely inferior to Kobe’s career to date which is usually what one is talking about when discussing all-time greats. And even assuming you put Jordan, West, Wade, and Drexler ahead of Kobe, that would still make Kobe one of the top 5 SGs of all time. That wouldn’t qualify him as one of the greatest SGs ever?

And yeah, I’d take Monta over Manu on offense. I mean, the only downside is slightly more turnovers but that is to be expected with the ball in his hands so much. He scores more and more efficiently. He sets teammates up more even though he has less good ones to set up. And he gets to the line more. Why would you prefer Manu?

By: brgulker

brgulker — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:21:43 +0000

Yay points!

By: brgulker

brgulker — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:08:25 +0000

Manu worse than Ellis on offense? No way.

Drexler and Wade are both better than Kobe.

The thing that really seals Kobe’s fat as a great player is his longevity and durability. He’s played at a very high level for a very long time, and he’s missed very few games.

But, I would not say Kobe’s the best player of his generation (let alone all time), and he’s not currently the best SG in the game.