Comments on: No player’s offense drops more against a good defense than Charlie Villanueva’s http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/07/no-players-offense-drops-more-against-a-good-defense-than-charlie-villanuevas/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Wed, 22 May 2013 13:45:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/07/no-players-offense-drops-more-against-a-good-defense-than-charlie-villanuevas/comment-page-1/#comment-33735 tarsier Fri, 29 Jul 2011 23:19:02 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/07/no-players-offense-drops-more-against-a-good-defense-than-charlie-villanuevas/#comment-33735 correction: he had half a good season with milwaukee. and also a pretty decent rookie year with toronto. correction: he had half a good season with milwaukee. and also a pretty decent rookie year with toronto.

]]> By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/07/no-players-offense-drops-more-against-a-good-defense-than-charlie-villanuevas/comment-page-1/#comment-33734 tarsier Fri, 29 Jul 2011 23:17:03 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/07/no-players-offense-drops-more-against-a-good-defense-than-charlie-villanuevas/#comment-33734 Wow, I put this link in a comment on the post about Villanueva playing Prince earlier this morning. So were you already writing the post or did you really read the comment, follow the link, and write u a post in about half an hour?Because that would be impressive. Wow, I put this link in a comment on the post about Villanueva playing Prince earlier this morning. So were you already writing the post or did you really read the comment, follow the link, and write u a post in about half an hour?Because that would be impressive.

]]> By: khandor http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/07/no-players-offense-drops-more-against-a-good-defense-than-charlie-villanuevas/comment-page-1/#comment-33732 khandor Fri, 29 Jul 2011 20:54:49 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/07/no-players-offense-drops-more-against-a-good-defense-than-charlie-villanuevas/#comment-33732 Either: i. Coach Frank should slot CV into the bottom end of the Pistons' regular rotation, to be used properly, in only limited minutes, and his pouty attitude be damned; or ii. Joe D. should try and move CV to a team that fancies itself as a likely contender next season, e.g. Oklahoma, as a stretch-4 who can't defend a lick, surrounded an otherwise good-to-very-good defensive squad, without asking for a truckload of assets in return. Losing CV from the Pistons' roster is the epitome of addition by subtraction. Either: i. Coach Frank should slot CV into the bottom end of the Pistons’ regular rotation, to be used properly, in only limited minutes, and his pouty attitude be damned; or ii. Joe D. should try and move CV to a team that fancies itself as a likely contender next season, e.g. Oklahoma, as a stretch-4 who can’t defend a lick, surrounded an otherwise good-to-very-good defensive squad, without asking for a truckload of assets in return. Losing CV from the Pistons’ roster is the epitome of addition by subtraction.

]]> By: neutes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/07/no-players-offense-drops-more-against-a-good-defense-than-charlie-villanuevas/comment-page-1/#comment-33730 neutes Fri, 29 Jul 2011 19:19:56 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/07/no-players-offense-drops-more-against-a-good-defense-than-charlie-villanuevas/#comment-33730 Didn't think there were more ways to quantify the suckiness of Charlie V, but good find. Ok he sucks. We already knew he sucked. Now what? Didn’t think there were more ways to quantify the suckiness of Charlie V, but good find. Ok he sucks. We already knew he sucked. Now what?

]]> By: khandor http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/07/no-players-offense-drops-more-against-a-good-defense-than-charlie-villanuevas/comment-page-1/#comment-33729 khandor Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:21:16 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/07/no-players-offense-drops-more-against-a-good-defense-than-charlie-villanuevas/#comment-33729 Rob, why on earth would you want to add a player like Kaman/C? ... when he is strictly mediocre, as well. Rob, why on earth would you want to add a player like Kaman/C? … when he is strictly mediocre, as well.

]]> By: rob http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/07/no-players-offense-drops-more-against-a-good-defense-than-charlie-villanuevas/comment-page-1/#comment-33728 rob Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:25:52 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/07/no-players-offense-drops-more-against-a-good-defense-than-charlie-villanuevas/#comment-33728 Agreed 100% If a player is going to suck as bad he does at every other aspect of the game, aside from 3pt shooting, you would think they could at least be consistent with, no matter what defense they face. What this stat really means is that against a good defensive team, CV should never get in the game, as he is literally useless. He cant defend, rebound, block-shots, never passes, and now has no offense either? Useless. Agreed 100% If a player is going to suck as bad he does at every other aspect of the game, aside from 3pt shooting, you would think they could at least be consistent with, no matter what defense they face.

What this stat really means is that against a good defensive team, CV should never get in the game, as he is literally useless. He cant defend, rebound, block-shots, never passes, and now has no offense either? Useless.

]]> By: rob http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/07/no-players-offense-drops-more-against-a-good-defense-than-charlie-villanuevas/comment-page-1/#comment-33727 rob Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:21:20 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/07/no-players-offense-drops-more-against-a-good-defense-than-charlie-villanuevas/#comment-33727 Clippers arent trading Jordan unless its for a better big man, or all-star at another position, imo. The only reason they are shopping Kaman is because they like Jordan better. Clippers arent trading Jordan unless its for a better big man, or all-star at another position, imo. The only reason they are shopping Kaman is because they like Jordan better.

]]> By: rob http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/07/no-players-offense-drops-more-against-a-good-defense-than-charlie-villanuevas/comment-page-1/#comment-33726 rob Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:19:32 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/07/no-players-offense-drops-more-against-a-good-defense-than-charlie-villanuevas/#comment-33726 Nice stat find. Cant say I'm surprised either way though. CV is a soft-azz jump shooting big man. I know from watching all the great Pistons defenses over the years, that players like CV are the ones that get shut down easily by a good/tough defense. Vice versa for Prince. He's played against all the best defenses of this era at the highest levels, and knows how to still produce in a grind out game.  Nice credit to Tayshaun, and another negative on CV's long list. Tay 4 Kaman is my #1 trade I hope the Pistons make this off-season. Nice stat find. Cant say I’m surprised either way though. CV is a soft-azz jump shooting big man. I know from watching all the great Pistons defenses over the years, that players like CV are the ones that get shut down easily by a good/tough defense.

Vice versa for Prince. He’s played against all the best defenses of this era at the highest levels, and knows how to still produce in a grind out game. 

Nice credit to Tayshaun, and another negative on CV’s long list.

Tay 4 Kaman is my #1 trade I hope the Pistons make this off-season.

]]> By: khandor http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/07/no-players-offense-drops-more-against-a-good-defense-than-charlie-villanuevas/comment-page-1/#comment-33725 khandor Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:54:57 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/07/no-players-offense-drops-more-against-a-good-defense-than-charlie-villanuevas/#comment-33725 Dan, if the Pistons would like to add a player from the current Clipper's roster then they should look seriously at DeAndre Jordan, if they can add him for a reasonable dollar amount. Dan, if the Pistons would like to add a player from the current Clipper’s roster then they should look seriously at DeAndre Jordan, if they can add him for a reasonable dollar amount.

]]> By: khandor http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/07/no-players-offense-drops-more-against-a-good-defense-than-charlie-villanuevas/comment-page-1/#comment-33724 khandor Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:52:29 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/07/no-players-offense-drops-more-against-a-good-defense-than-charlie-villanuevas/#comment-33724 Dan, the Pistons SHOULD not be trying to acquire a player like Chris Kaman ... who, in his own way, is actually the Center equivalent to Charlie Villanueva, at the PF position. Using your same line of thinking, re: Villanueva ... There's a good reason why Kaman's teams in the NBA have been less-than stellar. Dan, the Pistons SHOULD not be trying to acquire a player like Chris Kaman … who, in his own way, is actually the Center equivalent to Charlie Villanueva, at the PF position. Using your same line of thinking, re: Villanueva … There’s a good reason why Kaman’s teams in the NBA have been less-than stellar.

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