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By: khandor

khandor — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 18:29:41 +0000

Ben,
Truth be told … I have not disagreed with almost everything written on-line about the Pistons. I have disagreed with some and said that others are right on the money, IMO, while yet others are both somewhat right and somewhat wrong. In all candor … Can you think of a good reason that someone who is a legitimate “expert” in a field [let's say, "sports", for example] might willingly choose to remain anonymous on-line? If you think hard enough, I am actually willing to “wager” a large sum of my own hard-earned money that you are, in fact, perfectly capable of coming up with the correct answer to this specific question.

By: brgulker

brgulker — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:23:34 +0000

The fact is … #1. I have no way of checking whether you are really who YOU claim to be, either.

Sure you do. You can use a variety of analytic tools. You can google me. You can find me on social media. You can find me on the website of my employer. Etc., etc. With a high degree of certainty, you could verify who I am.

That, or I’m running around lying about my real name.

. What I have had to say has very seldom, if ever, created a problem with anyone who has actually played or coached the game at an elite level;

Again, I have to take your word for it. This is another non-falsifiable statement. You make these all the time, and simply expect people to believe them without offering any proof or arguments as to why they should.

Prove to me that:
1) “Elite level” so and so’s have read what you’ve had to say, and,
2) That they’ve never objected.

The vast majority of people who do not comprehend the rightfulness of my observations made on-line are: a) Those who have only played the game at a lower level, or ii. b) Those who are “just fans”, or c) Those who may have played at a fairly high level but, unfortunately, were never exposed to authentic elite level coaching. #3.

Do you have any concept of how arrogant that sounds? We the peons bow to your unending knowledge. We should be thanking you for pouring out your wisdom.

That’s how it sounds.

That is really what makes the world in which we live an interesting place. Reasonable people can always just agree to disagree. Best wishes, and Keep On Truck’n. PS. Life’s too short to sweat the small stuff! :-)

Then, you say something which I truly believe you mean, which is friendly and kind.

I’m not saying you are a troll, because I know you’re perfectly capable of offering sincere sentiments like those above.

But, you have to admit that anonymously claiming NBA experience, and then finding a way to disagree with almost everything that gets published about the Pistons everywhere could be interpreted as trolling.

You could, of course, fix this easily by telling us who you are.

By: khandor

khandor — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 16:59:02 +0000

Ben,
The internet really is an amazing tool. You are free to write what you wish to write on-line, using your own name if you wish. The fact is … #1. I have no way of checking whether you are really who YOU claim to be, either. #2. I write what I write, the way I write it, for a good reason. Whether you think that I’m a “troll”, or not, is irrelevant to me. During the last several years that I have shared my “expertise” about sports [in general, and basketball, specifically] with others in a public way, on-line, I can tell you for a fact that: i. What I have had to say has very seldom, if ever, created a problem with anyone who has actually played or coached the game at an elite level; and, ii. The vast majority of people who do not comprehend the rightfulness of my observations made on-line are: a) Those who have only played the game at a lower level, or ii. b) Those who are “just fans”, or c) Those who may have played at a fairly high level but, unfortunately, were never exposed to authentic elite level coaching. #3. What may be “common” to you is not necessarily “common” to me, and vice versa, as far as the internet is concerned, as well as life, in general. That is really what makes the world in which we live an interesting place. Reasonable people can always just agree to disagree. Best wishes, and Keep On Truck’n. PS. Life’s too short to sweat the small stuff! :-)

By: brgulker

brgulker — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:40:14 +0000

You do realize that because of the anonymity of the internet, anyone could claim to have NBA experience, right?

Those of us who actually put our names on our words and own them make ourselves accountable to what we say. Those of you who make almost unbelievable claims but choose to hide anonymously hold yourselves accountable to nothing.

If you want anyone to take you and your claims seriously, be honest about who you are and aren’t.

Until then, you’ll just keep looking like a troll to every blog you frequent. That’s just common internet etiquette.

By: khandor

khandor — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 08:31:34 +0000

Ben,
re: “2) You have as much experience with the internal workings of “elite level basketball teams” as I do, as far as I’m concerned.”
You are free to think that this is the case, if you wish. :-) In my experience, however, those who truly have knowledge of this type of environment happen not to think like you do when it comes to assessing what actually qualifies as a “bad” ego/attitude, or not.

By: brgulker

brgulker — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 01:36:15 +0000

1) You don’t have to see the internal workings of the locker room to see that Rip and Tay have bad attitudes. It’s all over their faces each and every game. 2) You have as much experience with the internal workings of “elite level basketball teams” as I do, as far as I’m concerned.

By: khandor

khandor — Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:30:29 +0000

Ben,
Or, it could just be that I am more familiar with the range of acceptable egos and attitudes which exist amongst authentic elite level basketball players than you might be and am therefore more tolerant of what you may consider to be a “bad” ego and/or attitude … or, perhaps, do not think of their egos/attitudes as being truly “bad”, at all, since I know first-hand how these types of players actually think, feel and act in a way that you might not.
Based on the many comments I have read from basketball “observers” over the years on a variety of “team/fan” web sites it seems to me that a great many of them actually have very little first-hand knowledge of the internal workings of an elite level team – including players, coaches and administrators – and, therefore, misinterpret much of what is said and done by the people who work in the NBA on a daily basis.
e.g. I’ve read many comments like this over the years: “If I had an employee who worked for me said stuff like this, or acted in an in-subordinant way, then, I would ship him out as fast as possible.” What a comment like this actually reveals is that the maker thinks that the environment in the NBA actually works like it does at the job place where s/he works … when, in fact, it really does not have a great deal of resemblance at all, if you take the time to think about it in-depth.
The egos and attitudes of Rip Hamilton and Tayshaun Prince ARE NOTHING CLOSE TO BEING “BAD” … except, perhaps, in the eyes of those who have never been around people like Rip and Tay in connection with an elite level basketball team.

By: brgulker

brgulker — Sun, 24 Jul 2011 02:04:12 +0000

With each comment, you make, you demonstrate how little you actually watch the current Pistons players.

Prince and Hamilton have terrible egos and attitudes. PERIOD.

By: khandor

khandor — Sat, 23 Jul 2011 19:07:30 +0000

Dan,
Not sure if you consider this to be a US national media source or not:
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4685655/frank-remains-a-finalist-in-detroit
Or, if Dumars allegedly “favouring” Woodson and Gores allegedly “favouring” Frank, in the eyes of some other writer/source, is considered as being legitimate information.