Comments on: Is Tayshaun Prince too old for a sign-and-trade?

By: Alan

Alan — Thu, 14 Jul 2011 02:57:03 +0000

Dan,
Not sure that I can make the deal happen. But I just wanted to prove that the Lakers are a possibility as LA is:
1.) over the cap
2.) would have an interest in Prince
3.) Prince would have an interest in LA
4.) LA would have an asset that interests Detroit

By: getsomepistons

getsomepistons — Thu, 14 Jul 2011 01:08:31 +0000

For future reference, any time I post an x for y trade, it’s just a deal focused around x and y, not withstanding other pieces. Prince and Jerebko or Daye would probably get it done.

and damn. I herped and then derped. I forgot that Larry Brown was fired from the Bobcats ages ago.

By: Dan Feldman

Dan Feldman — Wed, 13 Jul 2011 20:13:25 +0000

So what do the Pistons have that can bridge the gap between Prince’s value and Odom’s value? Give me an example of a deal that might work, because I sure don’t see one.

By: Alan

Alan — Wed, 13 Jul 2011 20:07:56 +0000

I am not suggesting that Prince is more valuable to the Lakers than Odom. I am in fact conceding that he is not. The argument is that Prince for Odom could be the central workings of a deal that may help to answer some of the Lakers other missing parts and improve their team. And they have other missing parts as they took a big step backwards last season.

By: Dan Feldman

Dan Feldman — Wed, 13 Jul 2011 18:51:10 +0000

Alan, I don’t understand. How would Prince be more valuable to the Lakers than Odom is? Odom is a much better player.

By: Alan

Alan — Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:50:55 +0000

I agree that Odom for Prince straight-up is a downgrade but as part of a larger picture, it’s possible. The Lakers pass the D. Feldman four-part test that you detailed above. The Lakers have other needs too. Their team almost exclusively relied on Kobe & Pau for consistent points and could really use some scoring support in the form of a 6th man.

By: brgulker

brgulker — Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:22:32 +0000

Dan, thanks for posting this.

Here’s my question to anyone and everyone:

Who is a willing trade partner in a Prince S&T that satisfies everyone? Prince has to want to play there. The team has to want Prince. The team must have an asset it is willing to part with that works under contractual obligations. The Pistons must want said asset.

I think that such a list is very small, if it exists at all.

By: brgulker

brgulker — Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:16:17 +0000

Given what Dallas was able to do with its pick, I think it’s pretty hard to argue it didn’t have more value than letting Tay walk as an UFA.

By: Dan Feldman

Dan Feldman — Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:13:20 +0000

Why would the Lakers trade Odom for Prince? That's a downgrade for them. What are the odds Stuckey and Prince will want to play for Atlanta? Why would the Hawks do that trade?

By: Tom

Tom — Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:20:07 +0000

I think youre overestimating the value Dallas’ pick had for us. A late 1st rounder probably would have just been used on Kyle Singler but we would have had to pay him more and give him guaranteed money. We already have 3 rookies on the roster and if you assume Joe likes White, we essentially have 4. Seems to me adding another with a guaranteed contract wouldn’t have done anything positive for us.

I don’t think it is hard at all to put together a reasonable package deal that ships Prince to a contender. I like the above mentioned idea that has him going in a package to LAL for Odom, I also think throwing in Stuckey could send him to ATL for Josh Smith. I don’t think its terribly difficult to combine the two and have Stuckey and Odom go to ATL, Prince + go to LAL and we get Smith. Similarly Prince to LAC, Stuckey and Kaman to ATL and Smith to us seems like a starting point.