I think it would be interesting to see out of those names, who people would least like to see coach the pistons.
I’ve got a feeling it’ll be almost 70% Bill Laimbeer.
As I have stated before, I think that it is time for Joe to take over the Head Coaching job, especially since he likes to determine the coaching staffs of the Head coaches (see: Curry and Kuester).
But, in all honesty, Joe would make a great Pistons Head Coach. He was essentially the coach on the floor, after Zeke retired. And, as the Head Coach he would be closer to Stuckey and may prove to be a great influence and instructor to Stuckey.
Adelman or Sloan. Since those are probably pipe dreams, I guess I’d be okay with anyone on that list. There’s positives and question marks for all of them.
Bill L has done a great job in wnba,Piston basketball is team depth and stranglehold defense so he would make the best choice because he knows and has lived Piston basketball,I am a Celtic’s fan so I am looking at this as a outsider. I just want the Piston to do well again, the nba is a much better league when teams like the Pistons,Lakers,Celtics,Spurs do well.
Thanks for the support. It’s been a long time since we were in the NBA conversation. Hopefully with the ownership decided we’ll be able to invest some money in players and move on from this mess we’re in.
I would like to see Woodson or Lambeer. I just don’t think the players would respect Frank. When he coached NJ he looked like a little kid. He may be a decent coach but let someone else try him.
I know there are many out there who feel Laimbeer is not the guy for this job, but I STRONGLY feel he is just the guy for this job! Let Tay go, get rid of RIP, and watch Laimbeer control this team and grow with his players. You want a link to the most glorious of Piston glory days? You want fan excitement!? You want tough nosed, Bad Boys-style attitude in the Palace again? You want a guy the players will not challenge? You want a guy with championship experience on the court and on the sidelines? Um…he’s freakin’ Bill Laimbeer! ;-)
You must USUALLY have no argument to back yourself up on what you say ..So even though Joe Dumars made it as GM as a former Piston great .. and even though there is NO example of what you say is the case for the Pistons past history of hiring former GREAT Piston player leaders as GM or head coach .. you meekly hide behind the word USUALLY .. as if that justifies making rude comments and unfounded generalizations .. POINT SET MATCH..
Examples? Here you go. (Edited to add link, because you credit work here that you didn’t write.)
Michael Curry, Pistons – failed
Reggie Theus, Kings – failed
Larry Krystkowiak, Bucks – failed
Avery Johnson, Mavericks – succeeded
Frank Johnson, Suns – failed
Bill Cartwright, Bulls – failed
Laimbeer resume isn’t that impressive either. The WNBA style is totally different than the NBA. I’ve seen rumblings that Laimbeer isn’t really that involved with Love’s progression. I’m just tired of seeing fans put Laimbeer on a pedalstool because hes a former Piston great.
Let me add a few other player-to-coach examples to your biased list:
Bill Russell (Player/Coach) – Success
K.C. Jones – Success
Rudy Tomjonovich – Success
Larry Bird – Success (made it to The Finals in 3 years)
Isaiah Thomas – Success in IND failed in NY
Phil Jackson – Pretty Good :-)
Rick Carlisle (although he was a bench player) – Success
The previous list is the last coaches who played for the team that hired them first. The idea is that those teams are using a criterion that does not influence coaching success (having played for the team) and elevating unworthy candidates.
Laimbeer will end up being a good coach in the league but I think its a lot to ask of him to take the Pistons’ job as his first NBA HC gig. It will put a copious amount of fan pressure on his head; its a situation that does not bode well for success. I think the guy should put in his dues as an assistant for a few more years, in due time he will find a head coaching gig…with the Pistons or elsewhere.
I totally agree. We are going to be losing for the next few seasons and the coach will always bare the brunt of it. Being a former player he will cop it twice as bad so i think it would be in Laimbeer’s best interests to get a coaching gig some place else.
You didn’t refute anything. Theres a history of Athletes getting a head coaching or GM job with former team and failing. Just because Dumars has been successful for the most part doesn’t mean Isiah or Laimbeer would have success too.
There’s nothing impressive in the coaching resumes of ANY of the candidates, other than Laimbeer … his work iwith the Wolve big men and in winning 3 titles coaching professional women players in the WNBA .. Why not make the same conclusions about the other candidates?
I inadvertently left Kelvin Sampson off the initial poll. I updated it earlier in the day, but if you voted in the non-Sampson poll, please re-vote, even if you’re not voting for Sampsn.
I agree, and I’m tired of everybody using the blanket statement that Joe D is an automatic success. Yes he had a brilliant group in building the championship but has obviously made some huge blunders. Ok, so he’s a success but not infallible. I think that he has tried – and failed – to avoid the kind of fallout that happened in his post-championship playing days. His experience made him slow the process down by about one year but when Ben left it seems like he got too emotional and gave up on the guys he had previously put so much faith in. He ought to know that even in a business, employees respond to loyalty. Red Auerbach understood that with experienced, older players.
Anyway Laimbeer is a natural leader and would be a fun choice. He’s been a winner everywhere he’s been. How he would adjust to the NBA is up for grabs. Isaiah needs some time to distance himself from the NY mess – every little mistake or even perceived mistake he makes will be blown out of proportion. Players could easily use that against him. Lawrence Frank has apparently ‘blown the Pistons away’ in an interview and it’s been a long time since the admin has felt that way about a coach. It seems that the last few have been the last resort. His focus tends toward the defense and that is a good fit for Detroit Basketball.
BTW good to see our old coach win the championship this year.
After Curry and Kuester, we know that leadership, communication are very important criteria.
Don’t want another specialist in defense or offense. Bring assistant coach for that… Franck and Casey won’t bring more than Curry or Kuester.
You don’t want Isiah in any staff position in your organisation.
Woodson, don’t know but if Dumars take him, it’s another ex assistant coach of Larry Brown. Why not bring back Larry Brown himself? No thancks…
The next pistons manager need to have focus on develloping young player and well communicate with veteran.
That let with Laimbeer… but i’m not a fan of bring back legend player to coach ex team.
So of that list to me, Sampson make the most sense.
Jun 19, 2011 • 3:14 pm
by Aruna
I think it would be interesting to see out of those names, who people would least like to see coach the pistons.
I’ve got a feeling it’ll be almost 70% Bill Laimbeer.
Jun 20, 2011 • 4:34 am
by bob bayer
yeah .. right .. that is why Laimbeer is first in the poll .. because 70 % dont want him as head coach .. NEXT!
Jun 19, 2011 • 3:17 pm
by Aruna
Whoops completely ignored Isiah, because after all who really thinks that he’s a candidate?
Jun 19, 2011 • 3:18 pm
by Sebastian
As I have stated before, I think that it is time for Joe to take over the Head Coaching job, especially since he likes to determine the coaching staffs of the Head coaches (see: Curry and Kuester).
But, in all honesty, Joe would make a great Pistons Head Coach. He was essentially the coach on the floor, after Zeke retired. And, as the Head Coach he would be closer to Stuckey and may prove to be a great influence and instructor to Stuckey.
Jun 19, 2011 • 3:18 pm
by omar
please sign lawrence frank!!!!! he is a smart young coach and a smart defense minded coach.
Jun 19, 2011 • 3:24 pm
by neutes
I don’t care who coach who coaches them in all honesty. Just get it over with.
Jun 19, 2011 • 3:58 pm
by Scott
Well said. What happened to those “swift” changes that Dumars promised us? This is starting to drag on a bit.
Jun 19, 2011 • 8:17 pm
by balooga999
Oh come onnnnnnnnn…. to say things are “dragging” already is a bit of a stretch. The ownership change was dragging….this isn’t nearly as bad.
Jun 19, 2011 • 3:57 pm
by Quick Darshan
Adelman or Sloan. Since those are probably pipe dreams, I guess I’d be okay with anyone on that list. There’s positives and question marks for all of them.
Jun 20, 2011 • 8:41 am
by patriotmarty12
Bill L has done a great job in wnba,Piston basketball is team depth and stranglehold defense so he would make the best choice because he knows and has lived Piston basketball,I am a Celtic’s fan so I am looking at this as a outsider. I just want the Piston to do well again, the nba is a much better league when teams like the Pistons,Lakers,Celtics,Spurs do well.
Jun 20, 2011 • 8:53 am
by Dtown for life
Thanks for the support. It’s been a long time since we were in the NBA conversation. Hopefully with the ownership decided we’ll be able to invest some money in players and move on from this mess we’re in.
Jun 19, 2011 • 3:58 pm
by Quick Darshan
He hasn’t been talked about, but Brian Shaw is another I’d be interested in.
Jun 19, 2011 • 5:07 pm
by Mike
I would like to see Woodson or Lambeer. I just don’t think the players would respect Frank. When he coached NJ he looked like a little kid. He may be a decent coach but let someone else try him.
Jun 19, 2011 • 5:18 pm
by tads
No Sampson?
Jun 19, 2011 • 5:32 pm
by omar
or please sign kelvin samspon!!! he is a smart coach and a smart defense minded coach
Jun 19, 2011 • 6:25 pm
by Kim Jong Skillz
none of the above.
Jun 19, 2011 • 7:06 pm
by Bo Bradly
I know there are many out there who feel Laimbeer is not the guy for this job, but I STRONGLY feel he is just the guy for this job! Let Tay go, get rid of RIP, and watch Laimbeer control this team and grow with his players. You want a link to the most glorious of Piston glory days? You want fan excitement!? You want tough nosed, Bad Boys-style attitude in the Palace again? You want a guy the players will not challenge? You want a guy with championship experience on the court and on the sidelines? Um…he’s freakin’ Bill Laimbeer! ;-)
Jun 19, 2011 • 7:27 pm
by Joe Dumars
Looking to the past in sports doesn’t usually end well. Isiah or Laimbeer as head coach? No thanks
Jun 19, 2011 • 11:30 pm
by kagiso edwards
That’s right .. good thing Joe Dumars never became GM for the Detroit Pistons …. WAIT A MOMENT!
Jun 19, 2011 • 11:51 pm
by Joe Dumars
You must have a reading disability. The keyword in my post is “usually”
Jun 20, 2011 • 4:40 am
by bob bayer
You must USUALLY have no argument to back yourself up on what you say ..So even though Joe Dumars made it as GM as a former Piston great .. and even though there is NO example of what you say is the case for the Pistons past history of hiring former GREAT Piston player leaders as GM or head coach .. you meekly hide behind the word USUALLY .. as if that justifies making rude comments and unfounded generalizations .. POINT SET MATCH..
Jun 20, 2011 • 5:20 am
by Joe Dumars
Examples? Here you go. (Edited to add link, because you credit work here that you didn’t write.)
Michael Curry, Pistons – failed
Reggie Theus, Kings – failed
Larry Krystkowiak, Bucks – failed
Avery Johnson, Mavericks – succeeded
Frank Johnson, Suns – failed
Bill Cartwright, Bulls – failed
Laimbeer resume isn’t that impressive either. The WNBA style is totally different than the NBA. I’ve seen rumblings that Laimbeer isn’t really that involved with Love’s progression. I’m just tired of seeing fans put Laimbeer on a pedalstool because hes a former Piston great.
Jun 20, 2011 • 12:19 pm
by Dtown for life
Let me add a few other player-to-coach examples to your biased list:
Bill Russell (Player/Coach) – Success
K.C. Jones – Success
Rudy Tomjonovich – Success
Larry Bird – Success (made it to The Finals in 3 years)
Isaiah Thomas – Success in IND failed in NY
Phil Jackson – Pretty Good :-)
Rick Carlisle (although he was a bench player) – Success
Jun 20, 2011 • 12:37 pm
by Dan Feldman
The previous list is the last coaches who played for the team that hired them first. The idea is that those teams are using a criterion that does not influence coaching success (having played for the team) and elevating unworthy candidates.
Jun 19, 2011 • 8:28 pm
by balooga999
Laimbeer will end up being a good coach in the league but I think its a lot to ask of him to take the Pistons’ job as his first NBA HC gig. It will put a copious amount of fan pressure on his head; its a situation that does not bode well for success. I think the guy should put in his dues as an assistant for a few more years, in due time he will find a head coaching gig…with the Pistons or elsewhere.
Jun 19, 2011 • 11:01 pm
by gmehl1977
I totally agree. We are going to be losing for the next few seasons and the coach will always bare the brunt of it. Being a former player he will cop it twice as bad so i think it would be in Laimbeer’s best interests to get a coaching gig some place else.
Jun 19, 2011 • 11:32 pm
by kagiso edwards
Was it too much for Joe Dumars to become GM for the first time for the Detroit Pistons … Your Point is hereby refuted.
Jun 20, 2011 • 12:03 am
by Joe Dumars
You didn’t refute anything. Theres a history of Athletes getting a head coaching or GM job with former team and failing. Just because Dumars has been successful for the most part doesn’t mean Isiah or Laimbeer would have success too.
Jun 20, 2011 • 4:43 am
by bob bayer
There’s nothing impressive in the coaching resumes of ANY of the candidates, other than Laimbeer … his work iwith the Wolve big men and in winning 3 titles coaching professional women players in the WNBA .. Why not make the same conclusions about the other candidates?
Jun 19, 2011 • 10:37 pm
by Dan Feldman
I inadvertently left Kelvin Sampson off the initial poll. I updated it earlier in the day, but if you voted in the non-Sampson poll, please re-vote, even if you’re not voting for Sampsn.
Jun 20, 2011 • 12:00 pm
by Dtown for life
I agree, and I’m tired of everybody using the blanket statement that Joe D is an automatic success. Yes he had a brilliant group in building the championship but has obviously made some huge blunders. Ok, so he’s a success but not infallible. I think that he has tried – and failed – to avoid the kind of fallout that happened in his post-championship playing days. His experience made him slow the process down by about one year but when Ben left it seems like he got too emotional and gave up on the guys he had previously put so much faith in. He ought to know that even in a business, employees respond to loyalty. Red Auerbach understood that with experienced, older players.
Anyway Laimbeer is a natural leader and would be a fun choice. He’s been a winner everywhere he’s been. How he would adjust to the NBA is up for grabs. Isaiah needs some time to distance himself from the NY mess – every little mistake or even perceived mistake he makes will be blown out of proportion. Players could easily use that against him. Lawrence Frank has apparently ‘blown the Pistons away’ in an interview and it’s been a long time since the admin has felt that way about a coach. It seems that the last few have been the last resort. His focus tends toward the defense and that is a good fit for Detroit Basketball.
BTW good to see our old coach win the championship this year.
Jun 20, 2011 • 12:54 pm
by Pierre
After Curry and Kuester, we know that leadership, communication are very important criteria.
Don’t want another specialist in defense or offense. Bring assistant coach for that… Franck and Casey won’t bring more than Curry or Kuester.
You don’t want Isiah in any staff position in your organisation.
Woodson, don’t know but if Dumars take him, it’s another ex assistant coach of Larry Brown. Why not bring back Larry Brown himself? No thancks…
The next pistons manager need to have focus on develloping young player and well communicate with veteran.
That let with Laimbeer… but i’m not a fan of bring back legend player to coach ex team.
So of that list to me, Sampson make the most sense.