Comments on: The Pistons know Greg Monroe can improve defensively, right? http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-pistons-know-greg-monroe-can-improve-defensively-right/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Wed, 22 May 2013 03:58:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Dan Feldman http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-pistons-know-greg-monroe-can-improve-defensively-right/comment-page-1/#comment-29912 Dan Feldman Sat, 21 May 2011 19:58:29 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=6088#comment-29912 <p>The first article was about what Monroe has learned. The second article was about what the Pistons want Monroe to work on. Defense wasn't mentioned in the second article.</p> <p>Between the two articles, the only mention of Monroe's defense was to praise it. I don't think his defense is close to a finished product, but these articles indicate it's not a priority for him this summer.</p> The first article was about what Monroe has learned. The second article was about what the Pistons want Monroe to work on. Defense wasn’t mentioned in the second article.

Between the two articles, the only mention of Monroe’s defense was to praise it. I don’t think his defense is close to a finished product, but these articles indicate it’s not a priority for him this summer.

]]> By: Mike Payne http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-pistons-know-greg-monroe-can-improve-defensively-right/comment-page-1/#comment-29789 Mike Payne Thu, 19 May 2011 19:07:35 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=6088#comment-29789 My point wasn't about my opinion on the situation, Dan.  This post suggests that because this article didn't discuss Monroe's defense, that it's not a priority.    The post that preceded it discussed his defense specifically. My point wasn’t about my opinion on the situation, Dan.  This post suggests that because this article didn’t discuss Monroe’s defense, that it’s not a priority.    The post that preceded it discussed his defense specifically.

]]> By: Dan Feldman http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-pistons-know-greg-monroe-can-improve-defensively-right/comment-page-1/#comment-29775 Dan Feldman Thu, 19 May 2011 17:46:32 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=6088#comment-29775 <p>He excelled for a rookie big man. He still has plenty of work to do on that end. It's too early to just celebrate his success on that end.</p> He excelled for a rookie big man. He still has plenty of work to do on that end. It’s too early to just celebrate his success on that end.

]]> By: Fennis http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-pistons-know-greg-monroe-can-improve-defensively-right/comment-page-1/#comment-29630 Fennis Wed, 18 May 2011 01:21:41 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=6088#comment-29630 @Eich   Who is your candidate for Pistons DPOY? Please do not say Tayshaun. That guy gave up more layups than Ben Gordon and Wil Bynum combined. @Eich
 
Who is your candidate for Pistons DPOY? Please do not say Tayshaun. That guy gave up more layups than Ben Gordon and Wil Bynum combined.

]]> By: Jakob Eich http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-pistons-know-greg-monroe-can-improve-defensively-right/comment-page-1/#comment-29605 Jakob Eich Tue, 17 May 2011 18:14:45 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=6088#comment-29605 @ Fennis: Stuckey's your #1 defender on the team? How did you come to that conclusion? He's ok defensively, but that's who he is, just ok, everywhere ... except for behavior!   @ Mike Payne: I covered it quite a bit on my breakdowns this year. He drastically improved in his rotations. At the beginning of the year he missed them a lot and at the end he even won ball games just by standing in the right spot. You cant work on that during the offseason, it's experience, awareness and how quickly you pick it up. Duncan and Dirk have probably played a  similar amount of minutes in this league yet one of them is arguably the greatest post-defender of all time and the other is still a liability. As I said, he should be fine defensively. @ Fennis: Stuckey’s your #1 defender on the team? How did you come to that conclusion? He’s ok defensively, but that’s who he is, just ok, everywhere … except for behavior!
 
@ Mike Payne: I covered it quite a bit on my breakdowns this year. He drastically improved in his rotations. At the beginning of the year he missed them a lot and at the end he even won ball games just by standing in the right spot. You cant work on that during the offseason, it’s experience, awareness and how quickly you pick it up. Duncan and Dirk have probably played a  similar amount of minutes in this league yet one of them is arguably the greatest post-defender of all time and the other is still a liability. As I said, he should be fine defensively.

]]> By: Mike Payne http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-pistons-know-greg-monroe-can-improve-defensively-right/comment-page-1/#comment-29602 Mike Payne Tue, 17 May 2011 16:28:16 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=6088#comment-29602 Monroe's defense was discussed in Langlois' prior article with Hetzel.  Specifically, they talked about Monroe's help defense and p/r defense, both of which were areas that Monroe excelled in on the defensive end last season. Monroe’s defense was discussed in Langlois’ prior article with Hetzel.  Specifically, they talked about Monroe’s help defense and p/r defense, both of which were areas that Monroe excelled in on the defensive end last season.

]]> By: Fennis http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-pistons-know-greg-monroe-can-improve-defensively-right/comment-page-1/#comment-29599 Fennis Tue, 17 May 2011 16:04:26 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=6088#comment-29599 @neutes   You make a great point. As bad as the defense is this year, it could be much worse next year with the loss of Tayshaun, and B Gordon being likely to get considerably more playing time. The team needs to invest in two to three above average defensive role players with the hopes of compensating for the team's numerous defensive liabilities.   Feldman, I definitely agree that Monroe should work on his D. Why isn't there talk of him hitting the weights like Jonas and AD did after their first year (or during their first year for that matter). The guy has sufficient bulk, but seems allergic to the weight room (a la Paul Pierce). For all the great things I have to say about Monroe, this concerns me. To maximize his potential and rise to the level of a top big man in the league he has to become one of the stronger big man in the league. I haven't seen any a commitment to or even an acknowledgment of this latter goal. That said, I think Monroe is the second best defender on the team next to Stuckey. But keep in mind that we're talking about the worst defensive team in the league.     @neutes
 
You make a great point. As bad as the defense is this year, it could be much worse next year with the loss of Tayshaun, and B Gordon being likely to get considerably more playing time. The team needs to invest in two to three above average defensive role players with the hopes of compensating for the team’s numerous defensive liabilities.
 
Feldman, I definitely agree that Monroe should work on his D. Why isn’t there talk of him hitting the weights like Jonas and AD did after their first year (or during their first year for that matter). The guy has sufficient bulk, but seems allergic to the weight room (a la Paul Pierce). For all the great things I have to say about Monroe, this concerns me. To maximize his potential and rise to the level of a top big man in the league he has to become one of the stronger big man in the league. I haven’t seen any a commitment to or even an acknowledgment of this latter goal. That said, I think Monroe is the second best defender on the team next to Stuckey. But keep in mind that we’re talking about the worst defensive team in the league.
 
 

]]> By: neutes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-pistons-know-greg-monroe-can-improve-defensively-right/comment-page-1/#comment-29593 neutes Tue, 17 May 2011 14:45:38 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=6088#comment-29593 Yep. The team's defense was absurdly pathetic. And Monroe happened to have the 2nd best d-rating on the team next to Ben Wallace. So I suppose he's the last guy that should be getting knocked for defense on the team. Also 2.5 fouls per game shows he can defend without fouling.   The team as a whole lacks for defense. Prince, Mcgrady, Wilcox, and Wallace could all be gone next season leaving this team stacked with defensive studs like Daye, Gordon, Bynum, CV, Rip, and Maxiell. How is this defense going to get better without getting different players? Yep. The team’s defense was absurdly pathetic. And Monroe happened to have the 2nd best d-rating on the team next to Ben Wallace. So I suppose he’s the last guy that should be getting knocked for defense on the team. Also 2.5 fouls per game shows he can defend without fouling.
 
The team as a whole lacks for defense. Prince, Mcgrady, Wilcox, and Wallace could all be gone next season leaving this team stacked with defensive studs like Daye, Gordon, Bynum, CV, Rip, and Maxiell. How is this defense going to get better without getting different players?

]]> By: Jakob Eich http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-pistons-know-greg-monroe-can-improve-defensively-right/comment-page-1/#comment-29592 Jakob Eich Tue, 17 May 2011 14:29:13 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=6088#comment-29592 You are right, above-average for a rookie is what I meant, but on good nights he was an above average post defender. His defensive game is better than his offense, especially taking into consideration he was supposed to be better on offense. He has no go-to move in the low-post, his midrange shot is shaky at best. He gobbles up the trash and produces good stats. I don't think he will be a defensive cornerstone for the Pistons. He has a great attitude and won't be a liability, but we should enhance the skills that'll help the team and get great defenders to surround him. He was arguably the best starting Pistons defender last year! You are right, above-average for a rookie is what I meant, but on good nights he was an above average post defender. His defensive game is better than his offense, especially taking into consideration he was supposed to be better on offense. He has no go-to move in the low-post, his midrange shot is shaky at best. He gobbles up the trash and produces good stats. I don’t think he will be a defensive cornerstone for the Pistons. He has a great attitude and won’t be a liability, but we should enhance the skills that’ll help the team and get great defenders to surround him. He was arguably the best starting Pistons defender last year!

]]> By: Tim http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-pistons-know-greg-monroe-can-improve-defensively-right/comment-page-1/#comment-29588 Tim Tue, 17 May 2011 12:43:54 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=6088#comment-29588 Seriously, you think Monroe is already an above average post defender? Above average for a rookie billed as primarily an offensive player, sure. But very few rookies are particularly strong on defense and Monroe was no exception. Seriously, you think Monroe is already an above average post defender? Above average for a rookie billed as primarily an offensive player, sure. But very few rookies are particularly strong on defense and Monroe was no exception.

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