Comments on: The Big Answer?: Richard Hamilton http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-richard-hamilton/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Sat, 25 May 2013 12:07:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Ottist3 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-richard-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-29441 Ottist3 Fri, 13 May 2011 15:50:29 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-richard-hamilton/#comment-29441 Seriously, Stuckey is not a true pointguard which is the center of the pistons problems right there. We need a guy who will get the others the ball at there sweet spots like chuancey used to do. It's plain as day that when we parted with our play making pointguard, the pistons started there dimise. Stuckey is still valueable, more so than Gordon, but as a back-up/ combo guard. Move Gordon for a true Point to run the offense effectively. Seriously, Stuckey is not a true pointguard which is the center of the pistons problems right there. We need a guy who will get the others the ball at there sweet spots like chuancey used to do. It’s plain as day that when we parted with our play making pointguard, the pistons started there dimise. Stuckey is still valueable, more so than Gordon, but as a back-up/ combo guard. Move Gordon for a true Point to run the offense effectively.

]]> By: gordbrown http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-richard-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-29373 gordbrown Thu, 12 May 2011 17:51:54 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-richard-hamilton/#comment-29373 More with the bullshit about point guards. When are you guys going to give it a rest. The question was (and is) whose game was dragged down more by the other, Stuckey or Hamilton. Stuckey got Hamilton the ball wide, wide open many, many times. Hamilton just bricked a ton of those shots. So much so that teams qucikly learned they could double team Stuckey and Prince and essentially shut down the Pistons' offense. Perhaps some adjustments could have been made but that's all water under the bridge. If you want Stuckey to move into the upper echelons in assists, the answer is as clear as day. Put him on the floor with bigs who can catch the damn ball and let him run. Hamilton doesn't fit into that so, while I have nothing against Hamilton as a person, its (long since past) time to trade his butt out of here. More with the bullshit about point guards. When are you guys going to give it a rest. The question was (and is) whose game was dragged down more by the other, Stuckey or Hamilton. Stuckey got Hamilton the ball wide, wide open many, many times. Hamilton just bricked a ton of those shots. So much so that teams qucikly learned they could double team Stuckey and Prince and essentially shut down the Pistons’ offense. Perhaps some adjustments could have been made but that’s all water under the bridge. If you want Stuckey to move into the upper echelons in assists, the answer is as clear as day. Put him on the floor with bigs who can catch the damn ball and let him run. Hamilton doesn’t fit into that so, while I have nothing against Hamilton as a person, its (long since past) time to trade his butt out of here.

]]> By: Tim Thielke http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-richard-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-29368 Tim Thielke Thu, 12 May 2011 15:57:38 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-richard-hamilton/#comment-29368 Please don't call Stuckey a $10M player. If that's what Dumars signs him to, I'll just have to accept it, I guess. but in the meantime, I am really holding out hope his next contract will be considerably smaller. If only Joe D plays it smart for once and realizes that the demand for Stuckey is not all that great and that he should be able to get away with a below market offer (like he could have done with Gordon). Please don’t call Stuckey a $10M player. If that’s what Dumars signs him to, I’ll just have to accept it, I guess. but in the meantime, I am really holding out hope his next contract will be considerably smaller. If only Joe D plays it smart for once and realizes that the demand for Stuckey is not all that great and that he should be able to get away with a below market offer (like he could have done with Gordon).

]]> By: Laser http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-richard-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-29322 Laser Thu, 12 May 2011 00:26:59 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-richard-hamilton/#comment-29322 amen. rip didn't get a fair shake in this situation, and he's been a total pariah for no reason. well, i guess because joe gets all the credit in the world, and we gotta point the finger somewhere. rip makes an excellent scapegoat. maybe it's his little beard. amen. rip didn’t get a fair shake in this situation, and he’s been a total pariah for no reason. well, i guess because joe gets all the credit in the world, and we gotta point the finger somewhere. rip makes an excellent scapegoat. maybe it’s his little beard.

]]> By: neutes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-richard-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-29292 neutes Wed, 11 May 2011 19:41:10 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-richard-hamilton/#comment-29292 I've regained my love for Rip. I don't want him going anywhere. His awareness on the court is 10 times Gordon's. He can average 4+ assists per game and can create open shots for teammates just off his movement without the ball. His shooting isn't what it was but down the stretch when he was motivated and confident he was shooting well. Dumars should have never given him so many obstacles and we may not have seen the decline we did. He put Iverson, Gordon, Mcgrady, and Stuckey all in front of him at some point. It should've been Rip's position all along and resources should have been spent trying to upgrade other positions. Now Rip's the pariah when he should be a hero in Detroit.   It doesn't hurt that he basically only has 1 year left on his contract at this point, and if he's kept he's an expiring asset the following season. At this point regardless of his game I would keep him over Gordon without question. Or I'd just keep him anyway because I doubt Gordon is going anywhere. I’ve regained my love for Rip. I don’t want him going anywhere. His awareness on the court is 10 times Gordon’s. He can average 4+ assists per game and can create open shots for teammates just off his movement without the ball. His shooting isn’t what it was but down the stretch when he was motivated and confident he was shooting well. Dumars should have never given him so many obstacles and we may not have seen the decline we did. He put Iverson, Gordon, Mcgrady, and Stuckey all in front of him at some point. It should’ve been Rip’s position all along and resources should have been spent trying to upgrade other positions. Now Rip’s the pariah when he should be a hero in Detroit.
 
It doesn’t hurt that he basically only has 1 year left on his contract at this point, and if he’s kept he’s an expiring asset the following season. At this point regardless of his game I would keep him over Gordon without question. Or I’d just keep him anyway because I doubt Gordon is going anywhere.

]]> By: sop http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-richard-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-29286 sop Wed, 11 May 2011 18:05:53 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-richard-hamilton/#comment-29286 I still say that until we see Gordon as a consistent starter and with a green light, then you can't say the all the options at SG are terrible. He was just to effective at Chicago. I still say that until we see Gordon as a consistent starter and with a green light, then you can’t say the all the options at SG are terrible. He was just to effective at Chicago.

]]> By: steve http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-richard-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-29275 steve Wed, 11 May 2011 16:17:27 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-richard-hamilton/#comment-29275 i agree with u laser...  i dont see what the rush is to get rid of rip, when we still have ben gordon.  the first guard that i would get rid of would be gordon, as we have too many people right now that can't play good d and like to shoot all the time. i agree with u laser…  i dont see what the rush is to get rid of rip, when we still have ben gordon.  the first guard that i would get rid of would be gordon, as we have too many people right now that can’t play good d and like to shoot all the time.

]]> By: Laser http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-richard-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-29274 Laser Wed, 11 May 2011 16:08:24 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-richard-hamilton/#comment-29274 it's INSANE and yet almost inarguable that the pistons don't have an answer at shooting guard going forward. three $10 million guys (once stuckey gets extended) at that position, but no clear answer. sad, sad, sad.   however, i don't think there's anything about the situation that remotely indicates that rip needs to part ways with the organization. both sides agreed to that contract, we're all adults here, and the team has plenty of options. the slate gets a bit cleaner once there's a new coach, and rip isn't necessarily the best guy to move.   if we draft a point guard, i'd be perfectly comfortable with rip starting next year next to him, stuckey and bynum coming off the bench, and gordon playing elsewhere. then, in a year, when rip's contract is expiring, you can get rid of him. then your core guards are stuckey, bynum and the pick, and you should probably add a defensive shooting guard to the mix (whether he starts or comes off the bench with bynum). this scenario is much more appealing to me than swapping rip for gordon. it’s INSANE and yet almost inarguable that the pistons don’t have an answer at shooting guard going forward. three $10 million guys (once stuckey gets extended) at that position, but no clear answer. sad, sad, sad.
 
however, i don’t think there’s anything about the situation that remotely indicates that rip needs to part ways with the organization. both sides agreed to that contract, we’re all adults here, and the team has plenty of options. the slate gets a bit cleaner once there’s a new coach, and rip isn’t necessarily the best guy to move.
 
if we draft a point guard, i’d be perfectly comfortable with rip starting next year next to him, stuckey and bynum coming off the bench, and gordon playing elsewhere. then, in a year, when rip’s contract is expiring, you can get rid of him. then your core guards are stuckey, bynum and the pick, and you should probably add a defensive shooting guard to the mix (whether he starts or comes off the bench with bynum). this scenario is much more appealing to me than swapping rip for gordon.

]]> By: Dan Feldman http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-richard-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-29272 Dan Feldman Wed, 11 May 2011 15:52:04 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-richard-hamilton/#comment-29272 <p>He sort of has. He's just coming from a lower peak than those two.</p> <p>http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/02/myth-reggie-miller-and-ray-allen-excelling-late-in-their-careers-proves-richard-hamilton-can-too/</p> He sort of has. He’s just coming from a lower peak than those two.

http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/02/myth-reggie-miller-and-ray-allen-excelling-late-in-their-careers-proves-richard-hamilton-can-too/

]]> By: BIG MARV http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-richard-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-29268 BIG MARV Wed, 11 May 2011 14:46:13 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-richard-hamilton/#comment-29268 in order for rips game to work again he has to go to a team with a system a GOOD system and a good PG that will give him the ball in the right places especially in them off-ball screen passes. I dont think hes washed up to me barring injury and being benced so much actually rip has refreshed his body. But we have to get something out of rip in a trade mabey some of them good guys from denver or utah will be a good deal we mabey can even get a PG out the deal hint: ty lawson... there is no way denver will keep two starting PG's for another year thats not happening. With rip in that George Karl system you can see him being back in all star talks and mabey being the most improved player also for next year. in order for rips game to work again he has to go to a team with a system a GOOD system and a good PG that will give him the ball in the right places especially in them off-ball screen passes. I dont think hes washed up to me barring injury and being benced so much actually rip has refreshed his body. But we have to get something out of rip in a trade mabey some of them good guys from denver or utah will be a good deal we mabey can even get a PG out the deal hint: ty lawson… there is no way denver will keep two starting PG’s for another year thats not happening. With rip in that George Karl system you can see him being back in all star talks and mabey being the most improved player also for next year.

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