Comments on: The Big Answer?: Charlie Villanueva http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-charlie-villanueva/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Thu, 20 Jun 2013 05:29:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: brgulker http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-charlie-villanueva/comment-page-1/#comment-29266 brgulker Wed, 11 May 2011 14:27:44 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-charlie-villanueva/#comment-29266 Low blow. Low blow.

]]> By: steve http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-charlie-villanueva/comment-page-1/#comment-29246 steve Wed, 11 May 2011 10:17:40 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-charlie-villanueva/#comment-29246 @fennis  in response to your challenge i nominate kuester as having a lower bball IQ... @fennis  in response to your challenge i nominate kuester as having a lower bball IQ…

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]]> By: Fennis http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-charlie-villanueva/comment-page-1/#comment-29222 Fennis Wed, 11 May 2011 05:39:41 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-charlie-villanueva/#comment-29222 @ Zach So true. The sad part is that the guy comes in, hits a couple threes, and people begin to think he's worth a damn. As you clearly articulated, he is an unequivocal failure in every phase of the game except shooting. Hustle, rebounding, defense, blocking shots, picks. His lack of effort is simply stunning and almost pathological, in the sense that it seems to be some sort of schtick (sp?). He conveys this "I don't give a damn" on-court persona that is sometimes abruptly interrupted by half-hearted hacking at the basket which appears to be his twisted idea of rugged play... And for a guy of his caliber to go on that absurd tirade in the last game of the season... His play is nothing short of an embarrassment to the franchise.   @ Zach

So true. The sad part is that the guy comes in, hits a couple threes, and people begin to think he’s worth a damn. As you clearly articulated, he is an unequivocal failure in every phase of the game except shooting. Hustle, rebounding, defense, blocking shots, picks. His lack of effort is simply stunning and almost pathological, in the sense that it seems to be some sort of schtick (sp?). He conveys this “I don’t give a damn” on-court persona that is sometimes abruptly interrupted by half-hearted hacking at the basket which appears to be his twisted idea of rugged play… And for a guy of his caliber to go on that absurd tirade in the last game of the season… His play is nothing short of an embarrassment to the franchise.
 

]]> By: gordbrown http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-charlie-villanueva/comment-page-1/#comment-29210 gordbrown Wed, 11 May 2011 01:50:32 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-charlie-villanueva/#comment-29210 CVs season trajectory was an interesting phenomenon. I'm ready to duck but he was playing really well. Then he sprained his ankle He did come back relatively quickly, but his conditioning was visibly affected and he was ineffective for a horribly long time. As his minutes went down, his enthusiasm quickly followed. Then somehow he managed to get into better shape and looked slightly better at the end of the year. What to make of this? I'm as frustrated as anybody with his ticky tack fouls leading to "and ones." But I think if he rededicates himself in the off season and he is properly motivated (and especially is motivated to maintain conditioning even if he misses games through injury) he can contribute more. But of the two, I would still rather than Ben Gordon, so if there is a trade to be made ... CVs season trajectory was an interesting phenomenon. I’m ready to duck but he was playing really well. Then he sprained his ankle He did come back relatively quickly, but his conditioning was visibly affected and he was ineffective for a horribly long time. As his minutes went down, his enthusiasm quickly followed. Then somehow he managed to get into better shape and looked slightly better at the end of the year. What to make of this? I’m as frustrated as anybody with his ticky tack fouls leading to “and ones.” But I think if he rededicates himself in the off season and he is properly motivated (and especially is motivated to maintain conditioning even if he misses games through injury) he can contribute more. But of the two, I would still rather than Ben Gordon, so if there is a trade to be made …

]]> By: Zach http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-charlie-villanueva/comment-page-1/#comment-29195 Zach Tue, 10 May 2011 22:27:57 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-charlie-villanueva/#comment-29195 @Fennis....Thank you for recognizing what an inferior player CV31 is...You know he's rarely going to get an offensive rebound because he stands 23 feet from the basket.  How appropriate is that for a 6 foot 11 inch PF?  The laziest player in the NBA...Doesn't run the court...Hates to screen for his teammates...Opposing PF's lick their chops when they have an opportunity to take him in the low post...Hates to even make it look good on defense...and did I mention his rebounding?  He'll get one uncontested with no bodies nearby.  Doesn't like to dirty things up in an area where he is assigned to play.  By far the worst FA signing ever by Joe D.  In the new collective bargaining agreement, we can only hope they can pay him his $21-mil to walk but at least fall off the salary cap and more important, the team. @Fennis….Thank you for recognizing what an inferior player CV31 is…You know he’s rarely going to get an offensive rebound because he stands 23 feet from the basket.  How appropriate is that for a 6 foot 11 inch PF?  The laziest player in the NBA…Doesn’t run the court…Hates to screen for his teammates…Opposing PF’s lick their chops when they have an opportunity to take him in the low post…Hates to even make it look good on defense…and did I mention his rebounding?  He’ll get one uncontested with no bodies nearby.  Doesn’t like to dirty things up in an area where he is assigned to play.  By far the worst FA signing ever by Joe D.  In the new collective bargaining agreement, we can only hope they can pay him his $21-mil to walk but at least fall off the salary cap and more important, the team.

]]> By: RandomGuy313 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-charlie-villanueva/comment-page-1/#comment-29187 RandomGuy313 Tue, 10 May 2011 20:11:48 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-charlie-villanueva/#comment-29187 I think he meant to challenge anyone with less hair than CV I think he meant to challenge anyone with less hair than CV

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-charlie-villanueva/comment-page-1/#comment-29186 Patrick Hayes Tue, 10 May 2011 20:08:35 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-charlie-villanueva/#comment-29186 <p>"I challenge anyone on this board to find a lower bball IQ in the NBA."</p> <p>Flip Saunders humbly nominates JaVale McGee, Andray Blatche or Nick Young.</p> “I challenge anyone on this board to find a lower bball IQ in the NBA.”

Flip Saunders humbly nominates JaVale McGee, Andray Blatche or Nick Young.

]]> By: RandomGuy313 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-charlie-villanueva/comment-page-1/#comment-29185 RandomGuy313 Tue, 10 May 2011 20:03:41 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-charlie-villanueva/#comment-29185 @Fennis... I just think that JoeD was overreacting to the NBAs emphasis on promoting offense. He saw CV putting up numbers with the Bucks and that he was someone that posed match up problems. Same thing with BG, his isolations against Boston in the playoffs got him that deal. I was very upset when he got rid of Afflalo because he better epitomized what JoeD wanted then anybody he brought in. @Fennis… I just think that JoeD was overreacting to the NBAs emphasis on promoting offense. He saw CV putting up numbers with the Bucks and that he was someone that posed match up problems. Same thing with BG, his isolations against Boston in the playoffs got him that deal.
I was very upset when he got rid of Afflalo because he better epitomized what JoeD wanted then anybody he brought in.

]]> By: Fennis http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-charlie-villanueva/comment-page-1/#comment-29183 Fennis Tue, 10 May 2011 19:43:02 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/05/the-big-answer-charlie-villanueva/#comment-29183 Not only is CV awful as a basketball player, he's downright demoralizing to players, coaches, and fans. I challenge anyone on this board to find a lower bball IQ in the NBA.   If you know the guy doesn't have it mentally to play on a championship team (would you trust him to perform *in any role* in a big game in the playoffs) then you have to take the next opportunity to move him... And re the Bonner comparisons? Not only does Bonner shoot less, the guy hits his defensive rotations and can likewise perform in the context of a defensive system. That doesn't mean he's a good defensive player, but the guy can execute installed defensive principles. CV is the opposite of that.   In my opinion, he is by far the most problematic player on the roster and in my mind Dumars' worst decision as GM -- ever. And I'm an ardent Dumars supporter. I just can't understand why you would sign someone with such piss poor defensive instincts, bad body language, and poor shot selection. He'd be a cancer if we were paying him the veteran's minimum. And I don't mean cancer in the social or interpersonal sense, but strictly in terms of basketball play. Not only is CV awful as a basketball player, he’s downright demoralizing to players, coaches, and fans. I challenge anyone on this board to find a lower bball IQ in the NBA.
 
If you know the guy doesn’t have it mentally to play on a championship team (would you trust him to perform *in any role* in a big game in the playoffs) then you have to take the next opportunity to move him… And re the Bonner comparisons? Not only does Bonner shoot less, the guy hits his defensive rotations and can likewise perform in the context of a defensive system. That doesn’t mean he’s a good defensive player, but the guy can execute installed defensive principles. CV is the opposite of that.
 
In my opinion, he is by far the most problematic player on the roster and in my mind Dumars’ worst decision as GM — ever. And I’m an ardent Dumars supporter. I just can’t understand why you would sign someone with such piss poor defensive instincts, bad body language, and poor shot selection. He’d be a cancer if we were paying him the veteran’s minimum. And I don’t mean cancer in the social or interpersonal sense, but strictly in terms of basketball play.

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