In all honesty, I’d be happy with this trade too.
Rip needs to go, period.
Cleveland gets:
8th pick in this year’s draft (that they’ll flip to Minnesota along with the 4th Pick for #2 Pick PF Derrick Williams)
SG Rip Hamilton (buyout or in 1 year great exp contract to trade)
PF Jason Maxiell
 
Detroit gets:
PG Ramon Sessions
12.5M Trade Exeption (expires this July)
PF Samardo Samuels

Sessions in his 84 career starts averages over his 1st 4 years (currently 25yrs old) are:
84games (about 1 full season)
33.3Min/g (which would’ve landed him 12 amongst all NBA PGs this year)
14.7PPG (which would’ve landed him 8th amongst all NBA PGs this year)
5.19FGM-11.65FGA=.446FG%
4.2FTM-5.4FTA=.782FT%
7.2AST (which would’ve landed him 5th in the NBA this year)
4.0REB (which would’ve landed him 8th amongst all NBA PGs this year)
1.2STLS
2.7TO

What if the same trade but sub in PG Ramon Sessions for Hickson (Cleveland already has Baron Davis to go along with Kyle Irving at PG, plus Cavs take on Maxiell’s contract in order to get out from 1 less year of Boobie’s)

I like Sessions as a starting PG (he plays well every time he gets the opportunity) and I’d like taking a flyer on Flynn (he seems like a prime guy that just needs a fresh start in a non triangle offensive system to get back on track)

So why wouldn’t the Cavs trade Hickson for Derrick Williams essentially?
(maybe Maxiell doesn’t need to be apart of this trade so the Cavs don’t have to eat his 5mil too, would that make it any better?)(I wouldn’t mind the idea of Ramon Sessions coming to Detroit though)

For Minnesota, this is the same trade they are trying to do but essentially swapping Flynn (who doesn’t fit their system and had a terrible sophmore year for them for an outside shooter that team could use in Boobie Gibson who has about the same contract as Flynn)

What could make this work in your opinion?

Pistons give up their 8th pick and rid themselves of Hamilton, but aquire 2 young players that have become expendable by their teams if this trade were to happen (Derrick Williams #2 pick makes Hickson expendable & a Rubio return can make Flynn expendable, plus Flynn’s game doesn’t fit in the triangle that Rambis implements at all)
 

Cleveland Gets:
2nd Pick in the Draft (from Minnesota)(PF Derrick Williams)
SG Rip Hamilton (potential buyout)
PF Jason Maxiell

Hamilton would be a buyout (and probably land in Chicago) only thing it cost the Cavs is Dan Gilbert’s money (no cap implications, or if they keep him, he would be their starting SG for 1 year then he’s a huge 15mil exp deal trade asset for the following year)
 
There are only 2 really good prospects in this draft, why wouldn’t the Cavs want both and start their new team that way? (the difference between 4 and 2 is that big this year)
I think Cavs (and Byron Scott who isn’t too fond of Hickson) would give up Hickson especially since they will be replacing him with #2 pick PF Derrick Williams (plus with Varejao, Jamison, Maxiell, Hollins as their C/PFs he’s expendable)
 

Minnesota Gets:
4th Pick in the Draft (from Cleveland)(C Ernes Kanter)
8th Pick in the Draft (from Detroit)
PG Boobie Gibson

I think Minnesota wants trade assets:
For Instance they can trade Beasley/Randolph/Darko along with #4 and or #8 for a player like Danny Granger
(plus how Flynn’s contract is still around 4mill per year, which is overpriced for where his value is right now and with Rubio/Ridnour holding down the PG spot, it’s a logjam)
 
Even if Rubio doesn’t go to Minnesota, he can be traded for an asset, but Ridnour IS their starting PG if he doesn’t come and play for them, Flynn is their backup PG making 4mil and hates the coach/GM why not move on, admit he’s a misfit with their system and acquire 2 top 8 lottery picks (that hold more trade value even in a weak draft than Flynn is worth right now?) plus Boobie Gibson who has the same contract as Flynn, has proven to be a better player so far and gives them a much needed outside Shooter.

Who says no?

Kuester was at Rip’s wedding. What’s your point?

Rip strikes me as more of a vocal leader. He’s much more extroverted than Wallace.

If Richard Hamilton had gone around demanding that his teammates play hard and follow Kuester’s direction, even if they didn’t agree with him, do you think Stuckey would have disobeyed Kuester so much? Stuckey deserves the bulk of the blame for his actions, but peer pressure exists.

What makes you think getting rid of Gordon is easier than Rip? According to you, Gordon barely deserves to make the roster of one of the NBA’s worst teams. Plus, he has more money left on his contract. Trading one would help the other. We agree on that. But why is trading Gordon easier?