Comments on: Greg Monroe jobbed again, makes All-Rookie second team

By: Gary Neal is not a rookie to Pop, a very good one to everybody else | 48 Minutes of Hell

Tue, 22 May 2012 20:31:41 +0000

[...] Monroe, on the other hand, finished sixth behind Neal in ROY voting and was named to the All-Rooke 2nd Team. [...]

By: The 10-man rotation, starring Norm MacDonald | GlobalTelegraph.net

Thu, 26 May 2011 17:34:37 +0000

[...] Phil Jackson anecdotes. Lots of anecdotes today.6th: SI.com. The refs are bums. Bums, I say.7th: Piston Powered. Greg Monroe(notes) was jobbed again, today.8th: NBA Playbook. What the Celtics were supposed to do [...]

By: Dan Feldman

Dan Feldman — Thu, 12 May 2011 17:42:24 +0000

So, you didn’t watch Monroe play, but “there is no way any1 in the world should even think that monroe had a better rookie year than landry”? Try again.

By: bucketz

bucketz — Thu, 12 May 2011 17:18:09 +0000

look i didnt watch the pistons this year (cuz they are ass) but i have been following monroe’s stats as a fan of his game…he was non-existent in the first half of the year..fields fell off after feb when monroe started picking it up…there is no way any1 in the world should even think that monroe had a better rookie year than landry…landry was ahead of john wall in most people’s eyes for the better part of the year
i agree monroe should be in ahead of gary neal but not by much

By: Tim Thielke

Tim Thielke — Thu, 12 May 2011 15:54:33 +0000

Yes and no. Fields absolutely deserved to get in. But Monroe deserved to be ahead of Fields. people will therefore often point out that fact and just leave it as an assumed that Fields should have beat out Neal. Perhaps such an argument isn’t always clear to everyone. But I doubt there are very many people commenting here who didn’t believe Fields deserved his spot.

If Wall didn’t make the team, people would similarly point out that he was better than Cousins. not to say Cousins shouldn’t make the team but just because then they would assume readers would infer that he also deserved to beat out Monroe, Fields, and Neal.

By: For fuck's sake

For fuck's sake — Thu, 12 May 2011 08:20:57 +0000

Fields was great this season and deserves his spot. I’m not surprised that casual fans who didn’t watch the Knicks before the trade don’t realize this, but he was one of the top three rookies this season.

Monroe should have gotten in over Neal, but dumping on Fields just exposes your ignorance.

By: Dream

Dream — Thu, 12 May 2011 04:50:09 +0000

Omer ASik GOT A 1ST TEAM VOTE! Imma Bulls fan but that’s embarrassing to know that these people are voting for something that actually matters to the guys playing the game.

By: Laser

Laser — Thu, 12 May 2011 00:19:15 +0000

erm… well it’s not quite the same as the Rookie of the Year voting, and this system, where five guys make each team, is going to have peculiar vote distribution. it isn’t going to mean as much as if a whole lot of people place weighted votes for only three guys. there are a few strange anomalies here, but landry fields falling two points short isn’t one of them. he almost inarguably deserved to make the first team.

i find it much stranger that some joker put wall on the second team (in other words, in this system, wall and griffin were favorites to “tie” by making everyone’s first team). or that someone actually left cousins off the ballot entirely (who were the ten guys he thought were better??). but the thing that’s bothering you here isn’t unusual in the least, and it indicates a problem with how you’re interpreting the data rather than the system itself. the results are bogus, but you’re picking the wrong fight.

my ballot would have griffin, wall, cousins, monroe and fields making the first team (in other words, five first place ties, because that’s how this vote goes), and i don’t think there’s much of a case to be made for any first team ballot to look different (with neal as a MAAAAAAYBE justifiable alternate for fields, but the voter would have some ‘splaining to do). in this particular class, it should have been a four-way tie with fields and neal splitting first-team votes.

By: Laser

Laser — Thu, 12 May 2011 00:03:50 +0000

not a soul here is going to think neal deserved to make the team over monroe. however, those are not the only stats that exist or matter.

By: The 10-man rotation, starring Norm MacDonald | sport

The 10-man rotation, starring Norm MacDonald | sport — Wed, 11 May 2011 22:04:36 +0000

[...] Phil Jackson anecdotes. Lots of anecdotes today. 6th: SI.com. The refs are bums. Bums, I say. 7th: Piston Powered. Greg Monroe was jobbed again, today. 8th: NBA Playbook. What the Celtics were supposed to do [...]