Comments on: The Big Answer: Chris Wilcox http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/the-big-answer-chris-wilcox/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Sun, 19 May 2013 00:43:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: sop http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/the-big-answer-chris-wilcox/comment-page-1/#comment-28026 sop Thu, 21 Apr 2011 14:03:23 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/the-big-answer-chris-wilcox/#comment-28026 Definitely Contract Year play from Wilcox. Worst Draft since 2000? Definitely Contract Year play from Wilcox. Worst Draft since 2000?

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/the-big-answer-chris-wilcox/comment-page-1/#comment-28025 Patrick Hayes Thu, 21 Apr 2011 13:57:43 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/the-big-answer-chris-wilcox/#comment-28025 <p>I hope you're right on Utah, although I think they'd be crazy to trade Milsap considering his production relative to his contract.</p> I hope you’re right on Utah, although I think they’d be crazy to trade Milsap considering his production relative to his contract.

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/the-big-answer-chris-wilcox/comment-page-1/#comment-28024 Patrick Hayes Thu, 21 Apr 2011 13:56:23 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/the-big-answer-chris-wilcox/#comment-28024 <p>With all of the defections from this draft, I'm skeptical Biyombo will be there at 7.</p> <p>This isn't a comparison of his game at all, but his situation reminds me of Michael Olowakandi. Olowakandi was an unknown, huge, raw big man out of Pacific who rose to the top of what was considered a weak draft simply because he had unreal potential. I don't think Biyombo will rise to first pick status like Olowokandi did, but I could certainly see him moving into the top five.</p> With all of the defections from this draft, I’m skeptical Biyombo will be there at 7.

This isn’t a comparison of his game at all, but his situation reminds me of Michael Olowakandi. Olowakandi was an unknown, huge, raw big man out of Pacific who rose to the top of what was considered a weak draft simply because he had unreal potential. I don’t think Biyombo will rise to first pick status like Olowokandi did, but I could certainly see him moving into the top five.

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/the-big-answer-chris-wilcox/comment-page-1/#comment-28023 Patrick Hayes Thu, 21 Apr 2011 13:54:00 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/the-big-answer-chris-wilcox/#comment-28023 <p>I would love to have him back on a one-year deal. I'd be leery of anything beyond that simply based on his inconsistent history.</p> I would love to have him back on a one-year deal. I’d be leery of anything beyond that simply based on his inconsistent history.

]]> By: detroitpcb http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/the-big-answer-chris-wilcox/comment-page-1/#comment-28010 detroitpcb Thu, 21 Apr 2011 03:47:33 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/the-big-answer-chris-wilcox/#comment-28010 cancel that. I guess Burks announced he was staying today. He had previously said if thought he was going 15 or higher he was coming out. cancel that. I guess Burks announced he was staying today. He had previously said if thought he was going 15 or higher he was coming out.

]]> By: detroitpcb http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/the-big-answer-chris-wilcox/comment-page-1/#comment-28007 detroitpcb Thu, 21 Apr 2011 03:11:33 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/the-big-answer-chris-wilcox/#comment-28007 I suspect that Ben Wallace retires, that Wilcox gets an offer larger than the Pistons want to pay so he doesn't come back, and that Max gets traded. That leaves Monroe, JJ, & CV as our bigs. obviously we need help and depth and i suspect that the draft will provide at least one and maybe two big men though i personally wouldn't mind seeing the Pistons draft Burks - the combo guard from Colorado and going for a big man by trading Rip and/or Ben Gordon for another draft choice - like Cleveland's #8 pick if the order stays as expected, Along with moving Prince in a sign and trade that would give us a nice core to develop. And i am a Rick Adelman fan. I guarentee you that both our offense and our defense would be better under Adelman. And while many people think Burks reminds them too much of Stuckey,(combo guard, strong & athletic, very good penetrator who can finish at the rack, midrange shot that needs work, questionable 3-point range, strong defensively - i think that would give the Pistons one of the best young backcourts in the league. You add Monroe to run the offense through at the high post in the half court and Daye and CV to hit the open three on the ball reversal off penetration and JJ and another big man who can play defense and rebound and get up and down the floor and you have a team that would be a terror in the open court - capable of either getting to the line or getting the open shot in the half court and very capable defensively if the big man we net from either the draft or the sign and trade is defensive minded and a bruiser or shot blocker. And i still hold out some small hope of Tay signing with Utah and getting Milsap - since the word is utah intends to keep Favors and Jefferson. I want no part of Jefferson howerver - should that be who Utah ultimately decided to move.  I suspect that Ben Wallace retires, that Wilcox gets an offer larger than the Pistons want to pay so he doesn’t come back, and that Max gets traded. That leaves Monroe, JJ, & CV as our bigs. obviously we need help and depth and i suspect that the draft will provide at least one and maybe two big men though i personally wouldn’t mind seeing the Pistons draft Burks – the combo guard from Colorado and going for a big man by trading Rip and/or Ben Gordon for another draft choice – like Cleveland’s #8 pick if the order stays as expected, Along with moving Prince in a sign and trade that would give us a nice core to develop. And i am a Rick Adelman fan. I guarentee you that both our offense and our defense would be better under Adelman. And while many people think Burks reminds them too much of Stuckey,(combo guard, strong & athletic, very good penetrator who can finish at the rack, midrange shot that needs work, questionable 3-point range, strong defensively – i think that would give the Pistons one of the best young backcourts in the league. You add Monroe to run the offense through at the high post in the half court and Daye and CV to hit the open three on the ball reversal off penetration and JJ and another big man who can play defense and rebound and get up and down the floor and you have a team that would be a terror in the open court – capable of either getting to the line or getting the open shot in the half court and very capable defensively if the big man we net from either the draft or the sign and trade is defensive minded and a bruiser or shot blocker. And i still hold out some small hope of Tay signing with Utah and getting Milsap – since the word is utah intends to keep Favors and Jefferson. I want no part of Jefferson howerver - should that be who Utah ultimately decided to move. 

]]> By: steve http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/the-big-answer-chris-wilcox/comment-page-1/#comment-28006 steve Thu, 21 Apr 2011 03:08:34 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/the-big-answer-chris-wilcox/#comment-28006 id like to keep wilcox at a reasonable contract and move charlie v and ben gordon.  we will probably draft a point guard or biyombo.  either way id like to have wilcox for insurance.  so happy that the team is sold, im assuming joe d is going to do a major overhaul like he did around 2002.  if that happens, i personally believe we can be competitive for making the playoffs next year id like to keep wilcox at a reasonable contract and move charlie v and ben gordon.  we will probably draft a point guard or biyombo.  either way id like to have wilcox for insurance.  so happy that the team is sold, im assuming joe d is going to do a major overhaul like he did around 2002.  if that happens, i personally believe we can be competitive for making the playoffs next year

]]> By: Laser http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/the-big-answer-chris-wilcox/comment-page-1/#comment-28004 Laser Thu, 21 Apr 2011 02:39:25 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/the-big-answer-chris-wilcox/#comment-28004 with the understanding that jerebko is at 240 lbs right now, i feel more comfortable with the idea of him playing the 4. he was a bit undersized last year at 220 or so, but 6'10, 240 is basically legit PF size. and i bet he adds some muscle in the offseason, given the concerns with his size last year and the team's obvious need at the 4 (plus weightlifting can be addictive). so that likely gives us monroe, jj and villanueva up front. not going to intimidate anyone, but those guys are probably firmly entrenched.   i have a feeling big ben will retire (call it a hunch), and he didn't exactly repeat last year's renaissance season, so i'm not counting on him. i think max is movable with that contract (particularly for a less productive expiring contract), but he may be in the mix. maybe he's just bench depth again, since it would be nice to actually improve the frontcourt for next season.   they're probably only going to have room in the rotation for four big men, so i'm guessing their free agent money gets spent wherever they don't draft some help. so it'll depend on if they land a big man or a perimeter player (face it: probably a PG). if the new cap is similar to the old one they've got a full midlevel alone to offer. not that you could fetch much with a $2m bi-annual exception, but we don't have one to spend this summer.   ok, with all that out of the way, assuming the pistons draft a big man, i think they use the MLE to get a point guard (if they're stupid, they'll spend it on t-mac or something; if they're smart, they'll pick an actual building block). if they draft a perimeter player (and face it, we may have a need at the 1 and the 3; without tay or mac and with jj firmly entrenched at the 4, our depth at SF just dwindled to daye and maybe summers if we're smart enough to pay him that cheap qualifying offer) i think wilcox would be a good free agent target. i don't think he'll come back, but maybe he's got some kind of comfort zone and/or likes some of the people in the organization. i feel like he'll get better offers elsewhere considering how he closed out the season, but i doubt we could lure a better free agent.   also, i'd bet lots of money that he won't be signing a one year deal with anyone who isn't a LEGIT contender. we're talking a top, say, five team in the league. nobody closes out a season like he did and signs a one year contract to boost his value some more. his value just peaked, and he might be able to snag a significant contract from someone. i might take my chances and give him three years (and probably live to regret it), since you just aren't going to get a better free agent to come here, and that's the length of the contracts BG and CV are on (so smart money says you're not going to have any real hope of sustainable success no matter who's on the roster).   if gores wants to spend and become a taxpaying team, he'll probably hand out a contract to just about anyone, even if it makes no sense on his own. that way he can trade it mid-season for something useful. he's basically got two options going forward: either look towards the 2013-2014 season when he'll have, like, five lottery picks on the roster, then get under the cap and try to add a free agent or two. or he could start adding payroll now (even if it's not very discriminatory), since you can only add salary incrementally (roughly one midlevel exception per year). with the understanding that jerebko is at 240 lbs right now, i feel more comfortable with the idea of him playing the 4. he was a bit undersized last year at 220 or so, but 6’10, 240 is basically legit PF size. and i bet he adds some muscle in the offseason, given the concerns with his size last year and the team’s obvious need at the 4 (plus weightlifting can be addictive). so that likely gives us monroe, jj and villanueva up front. not going to intimidate anyone, but those guys are probably firmly entrenched.
 
i have a feeling big ben will retire (call it a hunch), and he didn’t exactly repeat last year’s renaissance season, so i’m not counting on him. i think max is movable with that contract (particularly for a less productive expiring contract), but he may be in the mix. maybe he’s just bench depth again, since it would be nice to actually improve the frontcourt for next season.
 
they’re probably only going to have room in the rotation for four big men, so i’m guessing their free agent money gets spent wherever they don’t draft some help. so it’ll depend on if they land a big man or a perimeter player (face it: probably a PG). if the new cap is similar to the old one they’ve got a full midlevel alone to offer. not that you could fetch much with a $2m bi-annual exception, but we don’t have one to spend this summer.
 
ok, with all that out of the way, assuming the pistons draft a big man, i think they use the MLE to get a point guard (if they’re stupid, they’ll spend it on t-mac or something; if they’re smart, they’ll pick an actual building block). if they draft a perimeter player (and face it, we may have a need at the 1 and the 3; without tay or mac and with jj firmly entrenched at the 4, our depth at SF just dwindled to daye and maybe summers if we’re smart enough to pay him that cheap qualifying offer) i think wilcox would be a good free agent target. i don’t think he’ll come back, but maybe he’s got some kind of comfort zone and/or likes some of the people in the organization. i feel like he’ll get better offers elsewhere considering how he closed out the season, but i doubt we could lure a better free agent.
 
also, i’d bet lots of money that he won’t be signing a one year deal with anyone who isn’t a LEGIT contender. we’re talking a top, say, five team in the league. nobody closes out a season like he did and signs a one year contract to boost his value some more. his value just peaked, and he might be able to snag a significant contract from someone. i might take my chances and give him three years (and probably live to regret it), since you just aren’t going to get a better free agent to come here, and that’s the length of the contracts BG and CV are on (so smart money says you’re not going to have any real hope of sustainable success no matter who’s on the roster).
 
if gores wants to spend and become a taxpaying team, he’ll probably hand out a contract to just about anyone, even if it makes no sense on his own. that way he can trade it mid-season for something useful. he’s basically got two options going forward: either look towards the 2013-2014 season when he’ll have, like, five lottery picks on the roster, then get under the cap and try to add a free agent or two. or he could start adding payroll now (even if it’s not very discriminatory), since you can only add salary incrementally (roughly one midlevel exception per year).

]]> By: swish22 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/the-big-answer-chris-wilcox/comment-page-1/#comment-27997 swish22 Thu, 21 Apr 2011 00:29:53 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/the-big-answer-chris-wilcox/#comment-27997 His chemistry with Monroe was pretty solid the last 20 games.  I think they should resign him if it doesn't break the bank.  What kind of money do you think he will command?  Jerebko can play the 3 or 4 of course assuming he returns to his rookie level and Daye should get 20-30 minutes at the 3 assuming he keeps getting stronger, not sure who I'd plug into playing the other minutes available on the front line.  I won't spend any more time bashing CV.  Maybe he'll find his way into the weight room and re-dedicate himself into improving his weak areas.    His chemistry with Monroe was pretty solid the last 20 games.  I think they should resign him if it doesn’t break the bank.  What kind of money do you think he will command?  Jerebko can play the 3 or 4 of course assuming he returns to his rookie level and Daye should get 20-30 minutes at the 3 assuming he keeps getting stronger, not sure who I’d plug into playing the other minutes available on the front line.  I won’t spend any more time bashing CV.  Maybe he’ll find his way into the weight room and re-dedicate himself into improving his weak areas.   

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