Comments on: Rodney Stuckey continues to impress/frustrate as Pistons beat Bobcats for third straight win http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/rodney-stuckey-continues-to-impressfrustrate-as-pistons-beat-bobcats-for-third-straight-win/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Thu, 23 May 2013 04:25:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Tim http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/rodney-stuckey-continues-to-impressfrustrate-as-pistons-beat-bobcats-for-third-straight-win/comment-page-1/#comment-27608 Tim Mon, 11 Apr 2011 21:57:22 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5729#comment-27608 It is probably just about impossible for Stuckey to ever be an all-star. There are just way too many phenomenal PGs in the league right now. It is probably just about impossible for Stuckey to ever be an all-star. There are just way too many phenomenal PGs in the league right now.

]]> By: Jason http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/rodney-stuckey-continues-to-impressfrustrate-as-pistons-beat-bobcats-for-third-straight-win/comment-page-1/#comment-27595 Jason Mon, 11 Apr 2011 15:10:49 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5729#comment-27595 That's one way of looking at it, but i'd counter - who in the league are you really comfortable seeing guarding Lebron, Durant, or Melo? I think its safe to say that there are very FEW people in the league that can consistently defend these guys successfully.   That's not to say Villanueva would be better suited at the 3 in every situation, but I agree with the premise.. He's a liability defensively at any position, I agree that the 3 spot would be the lesser of evils. Think about it, his length - if nothing else can help him at least contain opposing SF's, until one of the Two bigs on the floor can step in to help.   Is Tayshaun really going to guard Lebron or Durant better then Vilalnueva? Well of course, but to what extent? Same as if Daye takes over the position, is Daye really going to be better defensively against these guys then Villanueva? Barely, if any..   More importantly, if Daye is at the 3, that puts Charlie likely at the 4.. Now we're really in trouble.. If Lebron/Melo/Durant get by Daye, we got Monroe/Villanueva - or whoever else to offer help.. Not going to get too far. With Daye at the 2, Charlie at the 3, and two actual BIGS on the floow - we now have length, and IMO will do a little bit better on defense.. Of course we won't be ranking in the top 5 defensively, but we'd be in a better situation overall. That’s one way of looking at it, but i’d counter – who in the league are you really comfortable seeing guarding Lebron, Durant, or Melo? I think its safe to say that there are very FEW people in the league that can consistently defend these guys successfully.
 
That’s not to say Villanueva would be better suited at the 3 in every situation, but I agree with the premise.. He’s a liability defensively at any position, I agree that the 3 spot would be the lesser of evils. Think about it, his length – if nothing else can help him at least contain opposing SF’s, until one of the Two bigs on the floor can step in to help.
 
Is Tayshaun really going to guard Lebron or Durant better then Vilalnueva? Well of course, but to what extent? Same as if Daye takes over the position, is Daye really going to be better defensively against these guys then Villanueva? Barely, if any..
 
More importantly, if Daye is at the 3, that puts Charlie likely at the 4.. Now we’re really in trouble.. If Lebron/Melo/Durant get by Daye, we got Monroe/Villanueva – or whoever else to offer help.. Not going to get too far. With Daye at the 2, Charlie at the 3, and two actual BIGS on the floow – we now have length, and IMO will do a little bit better on defense.. Of course we won’t be ranking in the top 5 defensively, but we’d be in a better situation overall.

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/rodney-stuckey-continues-to-impressfrustrate-as-pistons-beat-bobcats-for-third-straight-win/comment-page-1/#comment-27592 Patrick Hayes Mon, 11 Apr 2011 12:49:20 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5729#comment-27592 <p>If Dumars is staying, I'd bet against Laimbeer as coach. Dumars has resisted hiring him in the past mainly because I don't think he ever wants to be put into a position where he'd have to fire his friend and teammate, and with the way Joe D blows through coaches, it's a good bet he'd have to fire Laimbeer at some point.</p> If Dumars is staying, I’d bet against Laimbeer as coach. Dumars has resisted hiring him in the past mainly because I don’t think he ever wants to be put into a position where he’d have to fire his friend and teammate, and with the way Joe D blows through coaches, it’s a good bet he’d have to fire Laimbeer at some point.

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/rodney-stuckey-continues-to-impressfrustrate-as-pistons-beat-bobcats-for-third-straight-win/comment-page-1/#comment-27591 Patrick Hayes Mon, 11 Apr 2011 12:48:01 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5729#comment-27591 <p>He can some. I worry that he doesn't handle the ball well enough to consistently play minutes at that position though. It worked vs. Charlotte because Diaw was playing some three for them, and that's a favorable matchup for Villanueva. I doubt he's going to beat most threes, starters or backcourt, off the dribble. If he showed more willingness to get in the post more often, I'd be more confident he could take advantage of his size as a backup three, but as we've seen, he just won't stay down there consistently.</p> He can some. I worry that he doesn’t handle the ball well enough to consistently play minutes at that position though. It worked vs. Charlotte because Diaw was playing some three for them, and that’s a favorable matchup for Villanueva. I doubt he’s going to beat most threes, starters or backcourt, off the dribble. If he showed more willingness to get in the post more often, I’d be more confident he could take advantage of his size as a backup three, but as we’ve seen, he just won’t stay down there consistently.

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/rodney-stuckey-continues-to-impressfrustrate-as-pistons-beat-bobcats-for-third-straight-win/comment-page-1/#comment-27590 Patrick Hayes Mon, 11 Apr 2011 12:45:44 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5729#comment-27590 <p>He was terrible against Charlotte.</p> <p>He bit hard on the slowest pump fake I've ever seen from Boris Diaw, he was abused when he was matched up with Kwame Brown and he's had several games like that.</p> <p>He's smart enough that he'll get it eventually. But to even call him an average defensive player right now is a stretch. You're right, he has great hands and that will help make up for his lack of shot blocking, but he's still got to get stronger. He often gives up position inside against even mediocre bigs.</p> <p>A summer in the weight room will correct his deficiencies. My point was just that Monroe can improve at that end of the court and it's a good bet he will. The other guys I don't think will ever get to be useful defensive players up front.</p> He was terrible against Charlotte.

He bit hard on the slowest pump fake I’ve ever seen from Boris Diaw, he was abused when he was matched up with Kwame Brown and he’s had several games like that.

He’s smart enough that he’ll get it eventually. But to even call him an average defensive player right now is a stretch. You’re right, he has great hands and that will help make up for his lack of shot blocking, but he’s still got to get stronger. He often gives up position inside against even mediocre bigs.

A summer in the weight room will correct his deficiencies. My point was just that Monroe can improve at that end of the court and it’s a good bet he will. The other guys I don’t think will ever get to be useful defensive players up front.

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/rodney-stuckey-continues-to-impressfrustrate-as-pistons-beat-bobcats-for-third-straight-win/comment-page-1/#comment-27589 Patrick Hayes Mon, 11 Apr 2011 12:42:48 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5729#comment-27589 <p>Yeah, I'll get to him sometime this week.</p> Yeah, I’ll get to him sometime this week.

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/rodney-stuckey-continues-to-impressfrustrate-as-pistons-beat-bobcats-for-third-straight-win/comment-page-1/#comment-27588 Patrick Hayes Mon, 11 Apr 2011 12:42:28 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5729#comment-27588 <p>Well, he is still coing off the bench, and he'd actually be playing less right now if Bynum were fully healthy. Something seems up with McGrady too actually. He didn't play the second half last night and hasn't done much for the last week and a half or so. They don't really have anyone else who can play PG  minutes, so Stuck has to play a lot right now.</p> Well, he is still coing off the bench, and he’d actually be playing less right now if Bynum were fully healthy. Something seems up with McGrady too actually. He didn’t play the second half last night and hasn’t done much for the last week and a half or so. They don’t really have anyone else who can play PG  minutes, so Stuck has to play a lot right now.

]]> By: vic http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/rodney-stuckey-continues-to-impressfrustrate-as-pistons-beat-bobcats-for-third-straight-win/comment-page-1/#comment-27587 vic Mon, 11 Apr 2011 12:32:53 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5729#comment-27587 @ Rick- you are right on the money. I made that proposal a couple of weeks ago. Joe needs to stop putting square pegs in round holes. CV should be the backup 3 for instant offense. Jerebko should start at the 3 for good defense. Defense first! Daye is either starting 2 or backup 2 depending on his defensive improvement over the summer. Btw Bismack is a beast, I would draft him at 7 if Enes, Jonas, aKyrie, and Derrick Williams were gone. Perfect Pistons... Now we just need Ben Wallace to stay 1 more year or hire him as a big man coach. Then hire laimbeer as head coach! @ Rick- you are right on the money.
I made that proposal a couple of weeks ago. Joe needs to stop putting square pegs in round holes. CV should be the backup 3 for instant offense. Jerebko should start at the 3 for good defense. Defense first! Daye is either starting 2 or backup 2 depending on his defensive improvement over the summer. Btw Bismack is a beast, I would draft him at 7 if Enes, Jonas, aKyrie, and Derrick Williams were gone. Perfect Pistons… Now we just need Ben Wallace to stay 1 more year or hire him as a big man coach. Then hire laimbeer as head coach!

]]> By: Jakob Eich http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/rodney-stuckey-continues-to-impressfrustrate-as-pistons-beat-bobcats-for-third-straight-win/comment-page-1/#comment-27586 Jakob Eich Mon, 11 Apr 2011 11:21:04 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5729#comment-27586 Why can't CV be a three offensively and guard the 4 defensively? I mean, it would only make sense if we have another 3 and 4 tweener who is more athletic than Charlie! Why can’t CV be a three offensively and guard the 4 defensively? I mean, it would only make sense if we have another 3 and 4 tweener who is more athletic than Charlie!

]]> By: jack http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/rodney-stuckey-continues-to-impressfrustrate-as-pistons-beat-bobcats-for-third-straight-win/comment-page-1/#comment-27584 jack Mon, 11 Apr 2011 08:37:32 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5729#comment-27584 I do not understand why Greg Monroe needs to be given a pass as a defender. He may not be the best shot blocker but is second among rookies in steals per game and is averaging 2 in April.  Plus he is already an above average post defender, and an excellent pick and roll defender.  Have you seen how he cuts of guard penetration during pick and roll plays by moving his feet extremely well and getting in front of them.  Then there is his rebounding.  He is averaging 9 + since the all star break and nearly 9 as a starter.  I can see his averaging a solid double double next season.  Plus there is more to defense than shot blocking.  Tying people up, altering shots and deflecting the ball are all important aspects of defense that Monroe does really well.  Another thing I like is he has gotten the best teacher to learn how to play defense in Ben Wallace.  So he will get better defensively.  And don't forget about Jerebko who was also an excellent defender at both forward spots his rookie season.  With Monroe and Jerebko out there together I can see them creating havoc for the opposing teams offense ala mike james and hunter just like in 2004.  Personally I think they should make Bill Lambier or Ben Wallace the head coach and emphasize defense and let stuckey run an up tempo offense.   I do not understand why Greg Monroe needs to be given a pass as a defender. He may not be the best shot blocker but is second among rookies in steals per game and is averaging 2 in April.  Plus he is already an above average post defender, and an excellent pick and roll defender.  Have you seen how he cuts of guard penetration during pick and roll plays by moving his feet extremely well and getting in front of them.  Then there is his rebounding.  He is averaging 9 + since the all star break and nearly 9 as a starter.  I can see his averaging a solid double double next season.  Plus there is more to defense than shot blocking.  Tying people up, altering shots and deflecting the ball are all important aspects of defense that Monroe does really well.  Another thing I like is he has gotten the best teacher to learn how to play defense in Ben Wallace.  So he will get better defensively.  And don’t forget about Jerebko who was also an excellent defender at both forward spots his rookie season.  With Monroe and Jerebko out there together I can see them creating havoc for the opposing teams offense ala mike james and hunter just like in 2004.  Personally I think they should make Bill Lambier or Ben Wallace the head coach and emphasize defense and let stuckey run an up tempo offense.
 

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