Comments on: Rip Hamilton, Tayshaun Prince closing out frustrating season the right way http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/rip-hamilton-tayshaun-prince-closing-out-frustrating-season-the-right-way/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Fri, 24 May 2013 15:46:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Tyrone http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/rip-hamilton-tayshaun-prince-closing-out-frustrating-season-the-right-way/comment-page-1/#comment-27441 Tyrone Thu, 07 Apr 2011 12:54:40 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5662#comment-27441 Patrick, there is no doubt that Prince has been the most constant Piston this season and almost his entire career.    2Tough, Monroe has developed into a good player.  Monroe’s first 30 games were not full of highlights & double / doubles.  I like his attitude and commitment to working to keep improving his game.  Monroe is NOT the best Piston at this point in his career, but as long as he keeps working and we get the right player around him, he could turn out to be a great Piston.      Stuckey is inconsistent, he is not a combo or PG.  Stuckey is a SG, and he needs to continue to develop his NBA game.  Stuckey must learn to shoot the midrange and long range shoots better.  He should have been challenging RIP and BG in shooting contest during practices this season instead of running his mouth and telling his head coach when he is going to play and when is not. Patrick, there is no doubt that Prince has been the most constant Piston this season and almost his entire career.   
2Tough, Monroe has developed into a good player.  Monroe’s first 30 games were not full of highlights & double / doubles.  I like his attitude and commitment to working to keep improving his game.  Monroe is NOT the best Piston at this point in his career, but as long as he keeps working and we get the right player around him, he could turn out to be a great Piston.   
 
Stuckey is inconsistent, he is not a combo or PG.  Stuckey is a SG, and he needs to continue to develop his NBA game.  Stuckey must learn to shoot the midrange and long range shoots better.  He should have been challenging RIP and BG in shooting contest during practices this season instead of running his mouth and telling his head coach when he is going to play and when is not.

]]> By: Tyrone http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/rip-hamilton-tayshaun-prince-closing-out-frustrating-season-the-right-way/comment-page-1/#comment-27440 Tyrone Thu, 07 Apr 2011 12:41:27 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5662#comment-27440 Dan, my mistake, I thought that I read somewhere earlier this season that Joe Dumars was working with Rodney Stuckey and offered him a contract extension and it was declined by Stuckey and his agent.   Dan, Karen Davison, in my opinion, a lot of harm has been done to this franchise by her lack of ownership interest and lack of urgency in closing a deal to sell.  Again, IMO Joe Dumars was forced into signing a cheap inexperienced coach’s (the last 2 head coaches) because he has always known that the Pistons where Karen’s late husband’s interest and not hers.  The Pistons could have gotten Aviery Johnson but didn’t want to pay the money for a seasoned head coach, I put that on Karen Davison.  I also believe that she instructed Joe Dumars that any trades can only reduce payroll limiting his trade options and thus no trades in the last two seasons.    Karen Davison and her financial team is attempting to hold out and squeeze out every dime from the potential new owner and just shooting herself in the foot.  The team is not getting any better and the value of her franchise is steadily going in the wrong direction.  As a loyal Piston fan, I just wish that she would do herself and the fans a favor and close the deal so this franchise can begin to rebuild and get turned around… Dan, my mistake, I thought that I read somewhere earlier this season that Joe Dumars was working with Rodney Stuckey and offered him a contract extension and it was declined by Stuckey and his agent.
 
Dan, Karen Davison, in my opinion, a lot of harm has been done to this franchise by her lack of ownership interest and lack of urgency in closing a deal to sell.  Again, IMO Joe Dumars was forced into signing a cheap inexperienced coach’s (the last 2 head coaches) because he has always known that the Pistons where Karen’s late husband’s interest and not hers.  The Pistons could have gotten Aviery Johnson but didn’t want to pay the money for a seasoned head coach, I put that on Karen Davison.  I also believe that she instructed Joe Dumars that any trades can only reduce payroll limiting his trade options and thus no trades in the last two seasons. 
 
Karen Davison and her financial team is attempting to hold out and squeeze out every dime from the potential new owner and just shooting herself in the foot.  The team is not getting any better and the value of her franchise is steadily going in the wrong direction.  As a loyal Piston fan, I just wish that she would do herself and the fans a favor and close the deal so this franchise can begin to rebuild and get turned around…

]]> By: duh http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/rip-hamilton-tayshaun-prince-closing-out-frustrating-season-the-right-way/comment-page-1/#comment-27430 duh Thu, 07 Apr 2011 06:26:51 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5662#comment-27430 they won't be able to reply back because after they get fired they probably won't be able to afford the internet lol they won’t be able to reply back because after they get fired they probably won’t be able to afford the internet lol

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/rip-hamilton-tayshaun-prince-closing-out-frustrating-season-the-right-way/comment-page-1/#comment-27420 Patrick Hayes Thu, 07 Apr 2011 02:09:07 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5662#comment-27420 <p>Prince has been far more consistent than Stuckey this season.</p> Prince has been far more consistent than Stuckey this season.

]]> By: 2Tough http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/rip-hamilton-tayshaun-prince-closing-out-frustrating-season-the-right-way/comment-page-1/#comment-27403 2Tough Wed, 06 Apr 2011 20:31:48 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5662#comment-27403 Yeah Tyrone, and no one really cares what those two have done in the past.  That doesn't excuse their actions this year.  As far as play on the court this year, Stuckey has been the best of the three, and I'd challenge anyone to argue that.  Monroe has been our best player, but Stuckey has been our second best. Yeah Tyrone, and no one really cares what those two have done in the past.  That doesn’t excuse their actions this year.  As far as play on the court this year, Stuckey has been the best of the three, and I’d challenge anyone to argue that.  Monroe has been our best player, but Stuckey has been our second best.

]]> By: 2Tough http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/rip-hamilton-tayshaun-prince-closing-out-frustrating-season-the-right-way/comment-page-1/#comment-27401 2Tough Wed, 06 Apr 2011 20:28:03 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5662#comment-27401 Yeah, they've played 'hard' by icing everyone else out of the offense repeatedly and chucking up shots whenever they want to. As far as the other stuff, who knows whats going on behind the scenes?  It wasn't till a couple months after that we heard about the Hamilton blowup on Kuester that led to his benching.   Over the course of the season those two have been team killers far more than Stuckey has been. I don't have a source other than the fact that Hamilton was the only player who missed that practice that didn't have an excuse at all. Yeah, they’ve played ‘hard’ by icing everyone else out of the offense repeatedly and chucking up shots whenever they want to. As far as the other stuff, who knows whats going on behind the scenes?  It wasn’t till a couple months after that we heard about the Hamilton blowup on Kuester that led to his benching.
 
Over the course of the season those two have been team killers far more than Stuckey has been.
I don’t have a source other than the fact that Hamilton was the only player who missed that practice that didn’t have an excuse at all.

]]> By: Dan Feldman http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/rip-hamilton-tayshaun-prince-closing-out-frustrating-season-the-right-way/comment-page-1/#comment-27377 Dan Feldman Wed, 06 Apr 2011 12:44:44 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5662#comment-27377 <p>Tyrone, quick correction: Joe Dumars never offered Rodney Stuckey a contract extension.</p> <p>As far as Karen Davidson, she knows she's not interested enough in the team. That's why she's selling it. No harm there.</p> Tyrone, quick correction: Joe Dumars never offered Rodney Stuckey a contract extension.

As far as Karen Davidson, she knows she’s not interested enough in the team. That’s why she’s selling it. No harm there.

]]> By: Tyrone http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/rip-hamilton-tayshaun-prince-closing-out-frustrating-season-the-right-way/comment-page-1/#comment-27376 Tyrone Wed, 06 Apr 2011 12:19:28 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5662#comment-27376 Patrick, I absolute agree with your article.  Stuckey is a FOOL for choosing to behave the way he has.  First, RIP is doing what needs to be done to try and save his trade value.  If the right deal comes along Joe will be able to trade RIP and get his contract off the books.  I love all that RIP has done for this team but at this point in his career his contract is the biggest problem for the Pistons team.  Stuckey has done the total opposite.  First, Joe has offered Stuckey a contract extension earlier this season and Stuckey said NO.  Second, Stuckey made a choice to act out like RIP and Tay when Stuckey has proven no were near enough on the court to have his voice count.  Stuckey needs to work on improving his game, develop a mid range shot like RIP, Develop an outside shot like BG, Stuckey needs to go back and study Jordan.  He should realize that his whole career cannot be driving to the lane.  Also I will say this, PG is just not Stuckeys game, he is a SG only.  This Pistons needs to get a real pass first PG to play next to Stuckey and he needs to continue to develop his total NBA game.  Stuckey is a restricted free agent and I just don’t see ANY NBA team offering him a $40 million dollar contract based on his level of play and unprofessional attitude.  I just hope that if the attitude continues into next season that the Piston can Trade him away for something good in return. Final note is that Mr. Austin Daye needs to pay attention.  I was very upset with him that the Philly mess.  Daye has yet to prove anything or his draft position.  Daye needs to shut up and play ball.  Daye must get better on the Defensive end of the floor and stop crying when he feel the refs made a no call.  I'm willing to stand with him as his game develops as long as his chooses to operate and a hard working professional. Last thing, IN MY OPINION, the last 2 seasons fall 100% on the shoulders of Mrs. Karen Davison.  I feel that she has tied Joe Dumars hands and not allowed him to do the job that she is paying him to do.  No trades, hiring of head coaches that are cheap and limited experience.  It’s just MY OPINION, it appears that she is an owner who has absolutely no interest in the product she is putting out, and that she is only interested in the revenue and life style that it can afford her.  I'm one that will be over joyed when she finally makes a choice to sell the team and move on with her life.  Hopefully the new owner will care and want to give the hard working fans a winning product. Patrick, I absolute agree with your article.  Stuckey is a FOOL for choosing to behave the way he has.  First, RIP is doing what needs to be done to try and save his trade value.  If the right deal comes along Joe will be able to trade RIP and get his contract off the books.  I love all that RIP has done for this team but at this point in his career his contract is the biggest problem for the Pistons team. 

Stuckey has done the total opposite.  First, Joe has offered Stuckey a contract extension earlier this season and Stuckey said NO.  Second, Stuckey made a choice to act out like RIP and Tay when Stuckey has proven no were near enough on the court to have his voice count.  Stuckey needs to work on improving his game, develop a mid range shot like RIP, Develop an outside shot like BG, Stuckey needs to go back and study Jordan.  He should realize that his whole career cannot be driving to the lane.  Also I will say this, PG is just not Stuckeys game, he is a SG only.  This Pistons needs to get a real pass first PG to play next to Stuckey and he needs to continue to develop his total NBA game.  Stuckey is a restricted free agent and I just don’t see ANY NBA team offering him a $40 million dollar contract based on his level of play and unprofessional attitude.  I just hope that if the attitude continues into next season that the Piston can Trade him away for something good in return.

Final note is that Mr. Austin Daye needs to pay attention.  I was very upset with him that the Philly mess.  Daye has yet to prove anything or his draft position.  Daye needs to shut up and play ball.  Daye must get better on the Defensive end of the floor and stop crying when he feel the refs made a no call.  I’m willing to stand with him as his game develops as long as his chooses to operate and a hard working professional.

Last thing, IN MY OPINION, the last 2 seasons fall 100% on the shoulders of Mrs. Karen Davison.  I feel that she has tied Joe Dumars hands and not allowed him to do the job that she is paying him to do.  No trades, hiring of head coaches that are cheap and limited experience.  It’s just MY OPINION, it appears that she is an owner who has absolutely no interest in the product she is putting out, and that she is only interested in the revenue and life style that it can afford her.  I’m one that will be over joyed when she finally makes a choice to sell the team and move on with her life.  Hopefully the new owner will care and want to give the hard working fans a winning product.

]]> By: gordbrown http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/rip-hamilton-tayshaun-prince-closing-out-frustrating-season-the-right-way/comment-page-1/#comment-27362 gordbrown Wed, 06 Apr 2011 03:54:13 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5662#comment-27362 Did you jinx Hamilton? He reverted to his most-of-the-season form tonight, and I would argue the Pistons lost a winnable game because Hamilton's performance was so terrible. At least Kuester finally had the balls to bench him at the end. Did you jinx Hamilton? He reverted to his most-of-the-season form tonight, and I would argue the Pistons lost a winnable game because Hamilton’s performance was so terrible. At least Kuester finally had the balls to bench him at the end.

]]> By: Tim http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/04/rip-hamilton-tayshaun-prince-closing-out-frustrating-season-the-right-way/comment-page-1/#comment-27360 Tim Wed, 06 Apr 2011 03:07:20 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5662#comment-27360 That's fair. But I don't think Dallas needs an SF either. Although it depends what happens with Butler and Stojakovich. But they have Marion and Stevenson as well. Stevenson isn't great but he's adequate as a backup. If both Caron and Peja are gone after this season, I'll agree with you. Otherwise, there's just no space for him. That’s fair. But I don’t think Dallas needs an SF either. Although it depends what happens with Butler and Stojakovich. But they have Marion and Stevenson as well. Stevenson isn’t great but he’s adequate as a backup. If both Caron and Peja are gone after this season, I’ll agree with you. Otherwise, there’s just no space for him.

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