Comments on: Drew Sharp: Karen Davidson nixed deals for Carlos Boozer, Avery Johnson

By: tim

tim — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 23:06:32 +0000

wow, Jason. Coming in with passive aggressive insults and the writing style of a 2nd grader. I look forward to your in-depth analysis about hamiltons contract.

While I agree that the timing doesnt really fit with this premise, its pretty clear that K. Davidson has not been a positive factor in the organization. All of the pistons front office/ownership lay claim to some responsibility for this current flustercuck that is the pistons. But no one deserves more blame than the players themselves.

By: Tim

Tim — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 22:09:09 +0000

Signing McDyess at Gordon’s pay? Really?! I like McDyess and all, but that would have been a horrible deal. McDyess was an MLE sort of player, not a $10M player. Gordon was certainly worth a heck of a lot more at the time.
But yeah, the Gordon and Villanueva signings were bad, especially so soon. Unless you are going after top tier players, you wait a bit for prices to come down.

By: Jason

Jason — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:47:31 +0000

Denver has pretty good with Aflalo in the lineup lately. Just saying!

By: Jason

Jason — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:46:26 +0000

Maybe when I get time I will write you an article with analysis of Hamilton’s contract. Which would compare his salary to others and show how he is a verteran, scorer, decent at defense, and just a flat out winner.

Do you realize you are trying to make a point about something that in reality is not how Dumars planned to have this team. This is exactly my damn point with comments like yours.

YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA HOW GORDON AND CHARLIE V WOULD BE PLAYING WITH OTHERS IN THE MIX IF DUMARS WOULD OF HAD MORE FREEDOM. MAYBE CHARLIE V WOULD LOOK A LOT BETTER ALONG SIDE BOOZER YOU DONT KNOW. MAYBE DUMARS WOULD OF REACHED OUT FOR A POINT GUARD AND GORDON AND STUCKEY WOULD BE REALLY GOOD AT THE 2 SPOT TOGETHER.

Also Charlie V actually was switched to guard Lopez against the Nets and did a good job when everyone else was getting schooled.

By: Ken

Ken — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 14:41:14 +0000

I live in the Houston area now after leaving my home state of Michigan, and I think that Adleman would be a huge asset to the Pistons. He seems to get more out of less with the Houston Rockets teams he’s coached, since Yao has been injured most of the time he’s coached the Rockets, to say the least of T-Mac when he was down here.

By: Patrick Hayes

Patrick Hayes — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 12:50:17 +0000

Agree 100 percent on Adelman. He’d be a great hire if available.

By: Jakob Eich

Jakob Eich — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 09:27:40 +0000

If this is true, then Joe Dumars really took a huge gamble. We don’t know though how often he talked to Utah or other teams if they were willing to take on Rip. Maybe several teams said they would trade for him and give up a certain player Joe Dumars wanted. The signings of Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva were obviously a mistake. I think signing one of them would have sufficed, instead he signed both of them and created a lotf finanical problems for the team. I also don’t think Davidson was too concerned about the 4 years on Rips contract. She knew she wouldn’t own the team for four years, she wanted to sell. Neither one of us expected the sale to take so long, including her. She was concerned with the season and the next ahead and what she would have to pay.
Quite honestly, I don’t think this team is as bad as most people think. We haven’t had a good coach in three years. That is Joe D’s fault obviously, but he tried to give a young coach a shot at coaching a young team. You think it would be easy to get an elite coach to work with this roster. This isn’t exactly a team most people long to work with all of their lives. If Davidson nixed an Avery Johnson deal, oh well, I don’t think we could have gotten a better coach. The Pistons improved their record slightly this year!!! Think about all the problems the team and the fans had to endure during the season! We still improved! A couple roster tweaks and a good coach could get us back into playoffs. If Rip continues to play at the current level I strongly believe there’s still a market for him somewhere out there.
My biggest wish as a Detroit coach would be Rick Adelman. I heard Houston wants to let him go and him working with Stuckey and Monroe (Adelman’s prototype big man with his high-post passing ability) would get us at least a .500 record. Coaches are supposed to get the most out of their rosters and Adelman has been very good at taking rosters and make them overachieve. Unfortunately he still has a job, but there’s a rumor at least. Other than that, there are quite a few good coaches out there we could hire.

By: Patrick Hayes

Patrick Hayes — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 01:53:53 +0000

I don’t think anyone’s denying that it was a dumb move. It was a terrible gamble to take given the instability of the team after Davidson’s death. But if he legitimately thought he had a deal in place that ownership nixed after the fact, it changes the perception some. Still a dumb move, but at least it provides some context as to what his actual vision was when he made all of those bad signings at once.

By: Patrick Hayes

Patrick Hayes — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 01:50:16 +0000

Jason, I'm not going to keep replying to you after this. You clearly aren't interested in a discussion.

First of all, you didn't address my main point: You insinuated that I had been writing that Dumars deserved to be fired, which I never did. Please explain why you drew that conclusion from anything I've ever written here.

Some points:

- Hamilton or Gordon individually certainly wouldn't be the worst shooting guard contract in the NBA. There are plenty of bad ones. But when you collectively invest nearly $25 million per season in the SG position and neither guy is a franchise player, even if both are better than they've shown this season, it's clearly a mistake. Now, I think Dumars assumed he'd be able to trade Hamilton. That's a fair point to bring up. But it's still a major risk on his part to sign both players first, then assume a trade will happen later. That's his fault. Doesn't mean I think he didn't have a plan, I'm sure he did. But he's still responsible for both of those moves, and they've crippled the team financially and on the court.

- I never said Villanueva's contract is bad. It's not great, but it's not bad. There are teams who would certainly want Villanueva. I understand this, and I've written it quite a few times on this site.

- Afflalo might be the fourth string shooting guard. But that's only because the team traded him to sign Ben Gordon. If they'd kept Afflalo and never signed Gordon, they'd be in much better shape right now. First, Afflalo is still on his rookie contract, so the team would have a lot more financial flexibility than it does with Gordon locked in at $12 million a year. Secondly, Afflalo has been damn good in Denver. He plays defense. He's been among the league leaders in 3-point shooting the last two years. He's a starter on a playoff team.

I'm glad you find this website so "up to date." But if we provided unintelligent commentary here, we wouldn't have people reading everyday. Dan and I both don't hide our opinions, but we also both make attempts to back them up with relevant date. I've never read one thing you've written in comments here that has been backed up intelligently.

By: jayg108

jayg108 — Sun, 10 Apr 2011 22:22:26 +0000

joejoejoe doing the due diligence